NVIDIA's Partners Should Worry: RTX 5090 Founders Edition Tear-Down & Disassembly
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Date: 2025-01-27
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royalstunts
I love you both man. If you guys care about your audiences (which does have overlap) then you guys gotta settle this soon. There's rights and wrongs on both sides, and that much is clear to the people who watch both of you objectively (not picking a side). In this case you're both gunna have to be the bigger man, because it seems like this crap is going no where. You guys not having the possibility of collaborating in the future won't severely hurt you, but could have a good and meaningful impact to the audiences and to the industry as a whole. We all need to get on the same page here, because the system isn't a well oiled machine unless we are.
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I love you both man. If you guys care about your audiences (which does have overlap) then you guys gotta settle this soon. There's rights and wrongs on both sides, and that much is clear to the people who watch both of you objectively (not picking a side). In this case you're both gunna have to be the bigger man, because it seems like this crap is going no where. You guys not having the possibility of collaborating in the future won't severely hurt you, but could have a good and meaningful impact to the audiences and to the industry as a whole. We all need to get on the same page here, because the system isn't a well oiled machine unless we are.
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scambio_termico
I don't understand why Nvidia decided to replace the Ptm7950, (used on the 4090 FE die), with liquid metal on this 5090 FE. The Ptm7950 has performance very close to liquid metal but does not have its disadvantages (electrically conductive, degrades over time). In short, the ptm7950 is known to be much more stable and long-lasting and should be the best choice on direct die applications. The engineers will have done some tests and maybe there is something that I am missing ... anyway, I think it would be interesting to do a test using the Honeywell product to see how it performs, compared to liquid metal on this monster gpu.
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I don't understand why Nvidia decided to replace the Ptm7950, (used on the 4090 FE die), with liquid metal on this 5090 FE. The Ptm7950 has performance very close to liquid metal but does not have its disadvantages (electrically conductive, degrades over time). In short, the ptm7950 is known to be much more stable and long-lasting and should be the best choice on direct die applications. The engineers will have done some tests and maybe there is something that I am missing ... anyway, I think it would be interesting to do a test using the Honeywell product to see how it performs, compared to liquid metal on this monster gpu.
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ImnotgoingSideways
The connectors to the PCIE and IO look like pretty bog standard Hirose board-to-board headers. I can imagine there will be a whole new case-mod opportunities with board placement, changing the board location, or even new fitment standards. Also, PCIE can be a very robust signal. It might be worth repeating Linus' old slot extension test to see how long the bus can be before the data stream degrades. Remote mounting the board into a full surround waterblock mounted to the PC case sounds pretty fun.
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The connectors to the PCIE and IO look like pretty bog standard Hirose board-to-board headers. I can imagine there will be a whole new case-mod opportunities with board placement, changing the board location, or even new fitment standards. Also, PCIE can be a very robust signal. It might be worth repeating Linus' old slot extension test to see how long the bus can be before the data stream degrades. Remote mounting the board into a full surround waterblock mounted to the PC case sounds pretty fun.
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Drives31forhalo
Wow, I'm really impressed. I was so ready to be shitting on nvidia for making a needlessly complicated card, but this was a pretty good solution. I still think there's too many differently sized screws & the blow through design could have been made simpler, but whatever, it's still in a class of it's own.
although I do miss seeing the chips & components on the PCB. I'm really not a fan of all these back plates and shields that GPU and MOBO manufacturers are slapping on everything.
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Wow, I'm really impressed. I was so ready to be shitting on nvidia for making a needlessly complicated card, but this was a pretty good solution. I still think there's too many differently sized screws & the blow through design could have been made simpler, but whatever, it's still in a class of it's own.
although I do miss seeing the chips & components on the PCB. I'm really not a fan of all these back plates and shields that GPU and MOBO manufacturers are slapping on everything.
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scottbelanger5471
I'd be curious to see test results with cases using an air cooler and the GPU vertical mounted to blow the hot air towards the glass of the case instead of directly up into the CPU cooler. I'm also curious if GN plans to verify the efficiency numbers quoted by Gutenberg that the card is optimal to be mounted horizontal versus vertical. I think Gutenberg mentioned a couple degrees cooler when mounted horizontal versus other orientations.
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I'd be curious to see test results with cases using an air cooler and the GPU vertical mounted to blow the hot air towards the glass of the case instead of directly up into the CPU cooler. I'm also curious if GN plans to verify the efficiency numbers quoted by Gutenberg that the card is optimal to be mounted horizontal versus vertical. I think Gutenberg mentioned a couple degrees cooler when mounted horizontal versus other orientations.
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positronikiss
he is wiggling the LM qtip with LM on it around the capacitors and whatnot of the card when hes explaining. When I apply LM the attention and focus are SOLELY on never exposing any otther part of the component except the processing die to the LM. Max focus, dont wiggle LM over dangerous areas, it can kill your entire computer or card and removing it at any rate from unwanted areas is a real PITA 2.0.
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he is wiggling the LM qtip with LM on it around the capacitors and whatnot of the card when hes explaining. When I apply LM the attention and focus are SOLELY on never exposing any otther part of the component except the processing die to the LM. Max focus, dont wiggle LM over dangerous areas, it can kill your entire computer or card and removing it at any rate from unwanted areas is a real PITA 2.0.
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Nocturnturn
That thing is blowing all that hot air towards the CPU cooler. If I have to turn on my case fans to max for the FE and making my PC louder that way... seems like a big fail to me. I think traditional cooling solutions with a heat exhaust at the connector side are better.
The FE working in open setups or with case fans on high - and thus loudly - doesn't make it a good product...
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That thing is blowing all that hot air towards the CPU cooler. If I have to turn on my case fans to max for the FE and making my PC louder that way... seems like a big fail to me. I think traditional cooling solutions with a heat exhaust at the connector side are better.
The FE working in open setups or with case fans on high - and thus loudly - doesn't make it a good product...
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dfpamg
Been watching you for years, loved many moments of different tech eras, and most of the colabs and investigations were just awesome. However i cannot say i love this attitude lately, trying to just push down competition around you. It just doesn't fit the character I grew watching. Just be better, or you'll miss more viewers than just me. Thank you the memories, but Im done.
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Been watching you for years, loved many moments of different tech eras, and most of the colabs and investigations were just awesome. However i cannot say i love this attitude lately, trying to just push down competition around you. It just doesn't fit the character I grew watching. Just be better, or you'll miss more viewers than just me. Thank you the memories, but Im done.
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wolfsaccount143
This cooler is nothing more than a costdown product! And the coils on the PCB are a disaster as far as the noise is concerned, for all that money such a piece of junk! Without liquid metal, they would not get the heat fast enough into the little radiator at all. A plug connection for the PCI slot, what a nonsense, but the sheep buy this overpriced stuff anyway!
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This cooler is nothing more than a costdown product! And the coils on the PCB are a disaster as far as the noise is concerned, for all that money such a piece of junk! Without liquid metal, they would not get the heat fast enough into the little radiator at all. A plug connection for the PCI slot, what a nonsense, but the sheep buy this overpriced stuff anyway!
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michaelhanson5773
PS5s had issues with liquid metal leaking when they used in the vertical position... Was not something that happened in a week, it took time. Wondering if these cards will have similar issues when used mounted in cases vertically... Would be interested to also see thermal performance in cases where these mount vertically as well.
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PS5s had issues with liquid metal leaking when they used in the vertical position... Was not something that happened in a week, it took time. Wondering if these cards will have similar issues when used mounted in cases vertically... Would be interested to also see thermal performance in cases where these mount vertically as well.
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joshblack7404
This is what you need to do for a living! Leave the investigating to people who can actually investigate... It's just sad to see someone bury themselves with lack of ability and knowledge. Do the community a favour and stay in your lane please Steve. I studied journalism and you are really not doing the art any justice.
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This is what you need to do for a living! Leave the investigating to people who can actually investigate... It's just sad to see someone bury themselves with lack of ability and knowledge. Do the community a favour and stay in your lane please Steve. I studied journalism and you are really not doing the art any justice.
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stickfijibugs
22:20. Liquid metal suggestion. When you are doing narrated videos it is a good idea to wear a surgical mask to prevent saliva microdroplets from contaminating and getting mixed into the metal. In you demo here, some droplets may not have the time to evaporate causing vaporization at temps above 100C.
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22:20. Liquid metal suggestion. When you are doing narrated videos it is a good idea to wear a surgical mask to prevent saliva microdroplets from contaminating and getting mixed into the metal. In you demo here, some droplets may not have the time to evaporate causing vaporization at temps above 100C.
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MaybeShimo
Okay, issues aside, I actually like the separate PCI connector board. In every gpu previously it was a scrap write-off if the the card got bounced in transit inside a build, now we can just replace the mangled PCI connector and we're off to the races. That's a solid move on Nvidia's part.
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Okay, issues aside, I actually like the separate PCI connector board. In every gpu previously it was a scrap write-off if the the card got bounced in transit inside a build, now we can just replace the mangled PCI connector and we're off to the races. That's a solid move on Nvidia's part.
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watsonage
I hope Nvidia release the specs for their custom board connections for the PCIe and IO, it would be very interesting to see what custom solutions someone might come up with as an alternative to a PCIe riser or inconvenient IO placement with unusual orientations in some cases
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I hope Nvidia release the specs for their custom board connections for the PCIe and IO, it would be very interesting to see what custom solutions someone might come up with as an alternative to a PCIe riser or inconvenient IO placement with unusual orientations in some cases
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ПётрБ-с2ц
23:40 you won't probably kill it there are a lot of protections
sure but I did kill my HD6950 with bad application of LM a decade or so ago and temps were fine
should not count on those protections, clearly they were not verified in edge cases
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23:40 you won't probably kill it there are a lot of protections
sure but I did kill my HD6950 with bad application of LM a decade or so ago and temps were fine
should not count on those protections, clearly they were not verified in edge cases
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danolivet8346
I’m not here to roast Steve for his Linus stuff, just here to say that every time Steve does something like this he gets more views and then sells you products based on his manufactured outrage. It’s a really manipulative way of doing business.
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I’m not here to roast Steve for his Linus stuff, just here to say that every time Steve does something like this he gets more views and then sells you products based on his manufactured outrage. It’s a really manipulative way of doing business.
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Rabbit14
I really want to grab a 5090 asap but the FE would probably not be for me as I keep unreal engine open 12 hours a day with a bunch of other apps going. I would def need to wait for the MSI liquid cooled edition to replace my 4090 liquid cooled edition.
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I really want to grab a 5090 asap but the FE would probably not be for me as I keep unreal engine open 12 hours a day with a bunch of other apps going. I would def need to wait for the MSI liquid cooled edition to replace my 4090 liquid cooled edition.
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huzudra
Hack/Tip, smart phones have a pretty decent magnetometer in them, get an app that lets you access that sensor or sensors in general and use your smart phone to find the magnets. Also can be used to find nails in walls, and active electronics in devices.
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Hack/Tip, smart phones have a pretty decent magnetometer in them, get an app that lets you access that sensor or sensors in general and use your smart phone to find the magnets. Also can be used to find nails in walls, and active electronics in devices.
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Darf652
You're nothing put a pathetic troll who doesn't know what the word journalism means. Whatever your personal issue with linus is, you're just proving how much of a petty child you are. Open a dictionary and look up the words slander and defamation
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You're nothing put a pathetic troll who doesn't know what the word journalism means. Whatever your personal issue with linus is, you're just proving how much of a petty child you are. Open a dictionary and look up the words slander and defamation
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leojanney3605
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Hi steve long time viewer first time commenter just came in from Louis' video to say I love you guys and your content. Warmed my soul to see the change u made to the policies page, I think thats advice everyone needs to hear! Keep it up man!
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