HW News - AMD RX 9070 XT Inbound, Counterfeit 9800X3Ds, RTX 5090 Supply, KINGPIN Might Switch Sides
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Date: 2025-01-27
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james2042
As a field service engineer in the semiconductor industry, I work for an equipment vendor, and they're basically begging anyone who will go to go to arizona or oregon right now. Those sites are major and upcoming and full of holes in the employment roster. And that's just my company, but from what I've heard, its not much different with other companies.
I wish they'd look into places in the southern Midwest vs just the few states already littered with fabs. I mean theres small fabs scattered, sure, but a major fab in somewhere like Mississippi or Nebraska would be huge for the local economy, and it would be a lot easier to find skilled labor out there than in urban Arizona.
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As a field service engineer in the semiconductor industry, I work for an equipment vendor, and they're basically begging anyone who will go to go to arizona or oregon right now. Those sites are major and upcoming and full of holes in the employment roster. And that's just my company, but from what I've heard, its not much different with other companies.
I wish they'd look into places in the southern Midwest vs just the few states already littered with fabs. I mean theres small fabs scattered, sure, but a major fab in somewhere like Mississippi or Nebraska would be huge for the local economy, and it would be a lot easier to find skilled labor out there than in urban Arizona.
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ClevelandBeemer
Just a heads up, that Silverstone Floppy chassis is just the HTPC Silverstone GD09B with a slightly different face plate.
I built a HTPC using that chassis and it was ok. The major issue is thermals. Airflow is very limited since the GPU splits the case, effectively only getting airflow from a single 120mm fan. The other issue is with the drive cage in the cooler options are MASSIVELY limited. AIO’s are a no go without modification to the case. The largest cooler I could fit was the Noctua NH-U9S which due to lack of airflow could only keep my 5800X3D down to the low to mid 70’s while gaming.
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Just a heads up, that Silverstone Floppy chassis is just the HTPC Silverstone GD09B with a slightly different face plate.
I built a HTPC using that chassis and it was ok. The major issue is thermals. Airflow is very limited since the GPU splits the case, effectively only getting airflow from a single 120mm fan. The other issue is with the drive cage in the cooler options are MASSIVELY limited. AIO’s are a no go without modification to the case. The largest cooler I could fit was the Noctua NH-U9S which due to lack of airflow could only keep my 5800X3D down to the low to mid 70’s while gaming.
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kindnuguz
The TSMC report should be taken with a grain of salt, its well known workers in Taiwan fear their jobs moved to US plant and given that I personally think, what was said was bias against TSMC US, very sad imo as so many people only care about themselves and not for the better good. I hope it never happens but we all know missiles are pointed right at that factory and most likely the first thing to get hit.
5090 supply LOL I called it months ago, good luck getting one before Oct 2025 (for normal people not buying a pallet of GPU's)
We will be lucky before 2026 mark my words
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The TSMC report should be taken with a grain of salt, its well known workers in Taiwan fear their jobs moved to US plant and given that I personally think, what was said was bias against TSMC US, very sad imo as so many people only care about themselves and not for the better good. I hope it never happens but we all know missiles are pointed right at that factory and most likely the first thing to get hit.
5090 supply LOL I called it months ago, good luck getting one before Oct 2025 (for normal people not buying a pallet of GPU's)
We will be lucky before 2026 mark my words
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james2042
Until amd figures out a way to put a massive vcache on the io die, the 8 core x3d chips will always be faster. I've also been saying this since the 2400g, amd NEEDS to toy with the idea of HBM on module, like 4gb. Especially with the intro of the Chiplet design, HBM directly on the io die would be massive, and being able to configure it to either act an l4 cache or dedicated vram for APU's would leapfrog these chips, especially the really really high core count ones like the 16 core am4 or the high core count threadrippers.
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Until amd figures out a way to put a massive vcache on the io die, the 8 core x3d chips will always be faster. I've also been saying this since the 2400g, amd NEEDS to toy with the idea of HBM on module, like 4gb. Especially with the intro of the Chiplet design, HBM directly on the io die would be massive, and being able to configure it to either act an l4 cache or dedicated vram for APU's would leapfrog these chips, especially the really really high core count ones like the 16 core am4 or the high core count threadrippers.
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ruikazane5123
Meanwhile, here, the X3D CPUs are on an order basis. The pricing would apparently be 20% less than regular retail value if ordered this way, but considering how overpriced things are where we are it won't do much. They don't have the motherboards for PCIE 5 yet even, and they are also aware of very scant availability of the 50 series cards, the usual 60/70-class cards would apparently arrive in May or so. But who am I kidding...as if anyone I know would be buying anything new in today's industry situation...
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Meanwhile, here, the X3D CPUs are on an order basis. The pricing would apparently be 20% less than regular retail value if ordered this way, but considering how overpriced things are where we are it won't do much. They don't have the motherboards for PCIE 5 yet even, and they are also aware of very scant availability of the 50 series cards, the usual 60/70-class cards would apparently arrive in May or so. But who am I kidding...as if anyone I know would be buying anything new in today's industry situation...
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WIImotionmasher
Hopefully a shortage in 5090's and 5080's, will cause people building new PCs to maybe consider mid-range or in particular AMD and Intel GPUs.
I think the hype for the high end is over blown, and I wish more people would get excited about affordable gaming parts.
I would much rather know which motherboard has the most robust power design and PCIE lanes, and invest in that witha midrange GPU. Than blow my budget on a high end GPU that is bottlenecked by either my CPU or my monitor's capabilities.
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Hopefully a shortage in 5090's and 5080's, will cause people building new PCs to maybe consider mid-range or in particular AMD and Intel GPUs.
I think the hype for the high end is over blown, and I wish more people would get excited about affordable gaming parts.
I would much rather know which motherboard has the most robust power design and PCIE lanes, and invest in that witha midrange GPU. Than blow my budget on a high end GPU that is bottlenecked by either my CPU or my monitor's capabilities.
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chillnagasden6190
I trust GN so I looked at the Hyte Y70 as a customer. That price made me throw up a bit.
Mostly, I can't see the price being justified.
But you have to understand, I literally can't quantify what I'm getting for that price. I'm not a case guy, I'll have whatever works, and most of them work (Minus the stinkers lol).
For me, it's Enough space cool and what are cases Enough space & good ventilation is how I think about them.
But like _
$219 usd lol - for literally what I doN't get it.
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I trust GN so I looked at the Hyte Y70 as a customer. That price made me throw up a bit.
Mostly, I can't see the price being justified.
But you have to understand, I literally can't quantify what I'm getting for that price. I'm not a case guy, I'll have whatever works, and most of them work (Minus the stinkers lol).
For me, it's Enough space cool and what are cases Enough space & good ventilation is how I think about them.
But like _
$219 usd lol - for literally what I doN't get it.
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urulooke
What's the point of partner cards now and in the future Perhaps NVIDIA once lacked competence to design the best cards, but now their designs appear to be the best by far - well engineered, smaller (2 slots air cooled anyone), no nonsense, elegant looking, running well while also being cheaper! (Or do they forgo profit on those). So why waste stock of GPUs on partner models and incur delays because of miscommunication. Genuine question.
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What's the point of partner cards now and in the future Perhaps NVIDIA once lacked competence to design the best cards, but now their designs appear to be the best by far - well engineered, smaller (2 slots air cooled anyone), no nonsense, elegant looking, running well while also being cheaper! (Or do they forgo profit on those). So why waste stock of GPUs on partner models and incur delays because of miscommunication. Genuine question.
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reyalPRON
nvidia launches... sigh... its their way of milking you to the max. they launch before they have stock to drive the prices up up up and up, this is a classic marketing ploy that frankly is disgusting.
i personally have stopped buying nvidia cards for the last three generations now, and i can say with confidence that the other two brands do just fine.
good to have the old format back with hw stuff :) you sound happy again sir.
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nvidia launches... sigh... its their way of milking you to the max. they launch before they have stock to drive the prices up up up and up, this is a classic marketing ploy that frankly is disgusting.
i personally have stopped buying nvidia cards for the last three generations now, and i can say with confidence that the other two brands do just fine.
good to have the old format back with hw stuff :) you sound happy again sir.
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gavinmoses9929
GamersNexus Love the content guys and I just have a quick question please :) I've just seen the video by Steve from Hardware Unboxed where he's tested a MSI Supreme 5090 OC model. The card was manually overclocked higher and started pulling over 670W via the single 12v cable supplied with the card, do you think this is going to start becoming an issue or are the new board partner cards cables capable of not catching fire lol
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GamersNexus Love the content guys and I just have a quick question please :) I've just seen the video by Steve from Hardware Unboxed where he's tested a MSI Supreme 5090 OC model. The card was manually overclocked higher and started pulling over 670W via the single 12v cable supplied with the card, do you think this is going to start becoming an issue or are the new board partner cards cables capable of not catching fire lol
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Troopzorr
I just got and built a PC with a 9800x3d I got from Newegg. It was from a 3rd party retailer and even though the retailer has 17k ratings and a 4.5 review, AND the CPU seems to be working great, how to I make sure that its legit I haven't had any issues (it's only been a couple days since the build), but I had no idea that counterfeit CPUs were a thing lol. In hindsight of course they are but damn.
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I just got and built a PC with a 9800x3d I got from Newegg. It was from a 3rd party retailer and even though the retailer has 17k ratings and a 4.5 review, AND the CPU seems to be working great, how to I make sure that its legit I haven't had any issues (it's only been a couple days since the build), but I had no idea that counterfeit CPUs were a thing lol. In hindsight of course they are but damn.
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ShroudedWolf51
....god, I didn't really think about it until Rossmann brought it up, but your presentation style (especially with the hello fellow nerds jokes) has transitioned so much to imitate LTT's style. You still generally do great work, so you're still well worth listening to. But, it's stunning to me how much you've changed your presentation and speech to appear more mainstream.
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....god, I didn't really think about it until Rossmann brought it up, but your presentation style (especially with the hello fellow nerds jokes) has transitioned so much to imitate LTT's style. You still generally do great work, so you're still well worth listening to. But, it's stunning to me how much you've changed your presentation and speech to appear more mainstream.
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Rac3r4Life
I want to build an ARM powered NAS server in that Silverstone case. I'd probably use an Ampere ARM server board and chip.
Right now I'm using a R-Pi CM-4 on a mini-itx sized carrier board that has a bunch of SATA ports. It's a great low power usage NAS, but it would be nice to have a discreet GPU for video encoding to use as a jellyfin server too.
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I want to build an ARM powered NAS server in that Silverstone case. I'd probably use an Ampere ARM server board and chip.
Right now I'm using a R-Pi CM-4 on a mini-itx sized carrier board that has a bunch of SATA ports. It's a great low power usage NAS, but it would be nice to have a discreet GPU for video encoding to use as a jellyfin server too.
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ReckIamation
How do you have a shortage of something that hasn't been sold I understand supply and demand, but unless they have pre-sale orders, how do they know the demand What if companies are saying low stock to generate the demand to get people to buy quickly out of fear of waiting. (Think TV shopping shows that have the fake inventory number counting down).
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How do you have a shortage of something that hasn't been sold I understand supply and demand, but unless they have pre-sale orders, how do they know the demand What if companies are saying low stock to generate the demand to get people to buy quickly out of fear of waiting. (Think TV shopping shows that have the fake inventory number counting down).
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blakslee720
It's almost as if we (US gov) need to make serious policy changes in the manufacturing space in order to make new manufacturing more attractive (affordable) rather than just imposing tariffs on imports and tax breaks to companies exporting goods. And we absolutely do have a generational shortage of trades and manufacturing skilled labor.
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It's almost as if we (US gov) need to make serious policy changes in the manufacturing space in order to make new manufacturing more attractive (affordable) rather than just imposing tariffs on imports and tax breaks to companies exporting goods. And we absolutely do have a generational shortage of trades and manufacturing skilled labor.
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Nubbe999
Im missing the normal looking cases. All cases today seams to be glass, futuristic design, lightning and so on. I have not seen any just simple white or black cases, so I understand why they made a retro case. But I would rather just have a normal case without the retro look, lightning or other stuff. Just a simple style with good features.
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Im missing the normal looking cases. All cases today seams to be glass, futuristic design, lightning and so on. I have not seen any just simple white or black cases, so I understand why they made a retro case. But I would rather just have a normal case without the retro look, lightning or other stuff. Just a simple style with good features.
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Just_Pele
Usually my Asian supplier can hook me up with several new Nvidia cards with new launches, with the 4090 I could get 7; 2 FEs and 5 different partner versions, but the 5090 availability is so tight that I was only able to get a single FE and one other, the MSI Suprim SOC 3.5-slot beast. These are going to be difficult to find for a while.
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Usually my Asian supplier can hook me up with several new Nvidia cards with new launches, with the 4090 I could get 7; 2 FEs and 5 different partner versions, but the 5090 availability is so tight that I was only able to get a single FE and one other, the MSI Suprim SOC 3.5-slot beast. These are going to be difficult to find for a while.
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robertedelmann0711
I'm really wondering why you don't have some pieces magnet paper/film to show where magnets are, since it's really a neat toy to have around, it's appealing to the more playful side of techs all around and the pictures are on par with your visualisations. And it's a tax write off.
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I'm really wondering why you don't have some pieces magnet paper/film to show where magnets are, since it's really a neat toy to have around, it's appealing to the more playful side of techs all around and the pictures are on par with your visualisations. And it's a tax write off.
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scherge
Huang Jensen's addiction for comically overpriced leather jackets probably forced him into hoarding 5090s in his garage so he can start scalping the crap out of people the instant it releases.
And then it's right back to ordering more of those sweet sweet 9000$ jackets.
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Huang Jensen's addiction for comically overpriced leather jackets probably forced him into hoarding 5090s in his garage so he can start scalping the crap out of people the instant it releases.
And then it's right back to ordering more of those sweet sweet 9000$ jackets.
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ShinobuFX
I actually spoke with suppliers in my country and they said that MSI, Asus and other AIBs have sent very low number of RTX 5090 (4-5 cards) and there will be delays because of the Chinese Lunar year... in addition to the crazy prices (around $3000 for an Asus TUF card!)
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I actually spoke with suppliers in my country and they said that MSI, Asus and other AIBs have sent very low number of RTX 5090 (4-5 cards) and there will be delays because of the Chinese Lunar year... in addition to the crazy prices (around $3000 for an Asus TUF card!)
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