Breaking Down Intel's Strategy For Core Ultra 200S
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Date: 2024-10-11
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afre3398
Zen 5 do have AVX-512 support, but as I understand the Core Ultra 200 series do not have that enabled. But at this point how important is that for a consumer type of CPU
Ps I wrote enabled because in the beginning of P/E cores regime. You could actually run AVX-512 instructions if you disabled the E cores. But Intel very soon started to fuse off AVX-512 comparability on the P cores for desktop grade CPUs
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Zen 5 do have AVX-512 support, but as I understand the Core Ultra 200 series do not have that enabled. But at this point how important is that for a consumer type of CPU
Ps I wrote enabled because in the beginning of P/E cores regime. You could actually run AVX-512 instructions if you disabled the E cores. But Intel very soon started to fuse off AVX-512 comparability on the P cores for desktop grade CPUs
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runninginthe90s75
When Intel showed Arrow Lake is 5% slower at gaming than Raptor Lake it just at benchmark at stock clock, but Ultra 9 285K is limited at 125w which is half power of the i9-14900K. There are so much potential with Arrow Lake since it support 8000MT and 10000MT DDR5 not to mention you can still OC the CPU too but still use much lesser power than stock Raptor Lake.
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When Intel showed Arrow Lake is 5% slower at gaming than Raptor Lake it just at benchmark at stock clock, but Ultra 9 285K is limited at 125w which is half power of the i9-14900K. There are so much potential with Arrow Lake since it support 8000MT and 10000MT DDR5 not to mention you can still OC the CPU too but still use much lesser power than stock Raptor Lake.
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chaosfenix
I think the PCIE lanes is the biggest quality of life improvement here with these chips. 48 lanes of PCIE is amazing. That is comparable to many current gen workstation chips like threadripper. These things will be awesome for home servers. You get the iGPU for great encoding with plex and then plenty of PCIE lanes for expansion and storage. This is awesome.
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I think the PCIE lanes is the biggest quality of life improvement here with these chips. 48 lanes of PCIE is amazing. That is comparable to many current gen workstation chips like threadripper. These things will be awesome for home servers. You get the iGPU for great encoding with plex and then plenty of PCIE lanes for expansion and storage. This is awesome.
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bobjackson4287
In gaming the problem here is that it's fixing a problem that was uniquely Intel over the past few years. X3D is enough better in the desktop space that no one who is building gaming machines cares about AMD being less efficient for the better frames. It's a fix for Intel's massive power consumption that they have had for worse frames than X3D chips.
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In gaming the problem here is that it's fixing a problem that was uniquely Intel over the past few years. X3D is enough better in the desktop space that no one who is building gaming machines cares about AMD being less efficient for the better frames. It's a fix for Intel's massive power consumption that they have had for worse frames than X3D chips.
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darreno1450
Most content creators should have decent discrete graphics cards and won't be using that IGPU for much. So those AI workload benchmarks aren't a very realistic scenario IMO. I've used Topaz and it grabbed by 4090 for its processing. Maybe I'm totally off on this Feel free to correct me.
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Most content creators should have decent discrete graphics cards and won't be using that IGPU for much. So those AI workload benchmarks aren't a very realistic scenario IMO. I've used Topaz and it grabbed by 4090 for its processing. Maybe I'm totally off on this Feel free to correct me.
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afre3398
So the review embargo lifting will be around Oct 24. I am looking forward to the reviews even if they may disappoint someone hoping for large gains performance. My guess is that they will be on par with AMD regarding gains in performance
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So the review embargo lifting will be around Oct 24. I am looking forward to the reviews even if they may disappoint someone hoping for large gains performance. My guess is that they will be on par with AMD regarding gains in performance
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erniekeller1093
Let's say performance is only a little better than 14th gen and in some cases no better. For my money that's a win if you have a lower power draw and temps as well as a much better iGPU. It should be great for Handbrake QSV.
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Let's say performance is only a little better than 14th gen and in some cases no better. For my money that's a win if you have a lower power draw and temps as well as a much better iGPU. It should be great for Handbrake QSV.
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VoldoronGaming
These will be great CPUs for content creators but mid for gaming. 9800x3d will be faster without a doubt. 7800x3d will be slightly faster too overall for gaming but if you content create arrow lake will be your best choice.
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These will be great CPUs for content creators but mid for gaming. 9800x3d will be faster without a doubt. 7800x3d will be slightly faster too overall for gaming but if you content create arrow lake will be your best choice.
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partlycloudy1942
Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is 'AI performance' What does 'AI on a chip' mean I don’t really understand this. For example, I can use AI on practically any device right now, so what’s all of this about
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Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is 'AI performance' What does 'AI on a chip' mean I don’t really understand this. For example, I can use AI on practically any device right now, so what’s all of this about
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pcworld
The price difference for the GPU cores is 15 bucks. People may regret saving a mere $15.00 on $500/$300 part. What is something goes wrong with your graphics card You won't be able to play Candy Crush at all.
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The price difference for the GPU cores is 15 bucks. People may regret saving a mere $15.00 on $500/$300 part. What is something goes wrong with your graphics card You won't be able to play Candy Crush at all.
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ivanbrasla
18:00 I'm skeptical about that 165w reduction in space marines. The 14900K doesn't even reach 165w during gameplay, how are they reducing more than that I guess new motherboards are also more efficient
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18:00 I'm skeptical about that 165w reduction in space marines. The 14900K doesn't even reach 165w during gameplay, how are they reducing more than that I guess new motherboards are also more efficient
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eurocrusader1724
This is a joke...
In gaming the 7800x3d and 9800x3d will wipe the floor with this crap ,while being just as frugal.
Productivity
7950 or 9950 will be nearly equally powerful.
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This is a joke...
In gaming the 7800x3d and 9800x3d will wipe the floor with this crap ,while being just as frugal.
Productivity
7950 or 9950 will be nearly equally powerful.
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nossy232323
I just checked how they ran the benchmarks. For the Intel systems 6400MHz RAM was used while for the 9950X they used 5600MHz RAM and the 7950X3D only 5200MHz RAM!!!!!
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I just checked how they ran the benchmarks. For the Intel systems 6400MHz RAM was used while for the 9950X they used 5600MHz RAM and the 7950X3D only 5200MHz RAM!!!!!
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JBrinx18
What a disappointment in gaming. Some improvments in production. I wonder if there's just too much overhead in other areas for CPUs to see big improvements
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What a disappointment in gaming. Some improvments in production. I wonder if there's just too much overhead in other areas for CPUs to see big improvements
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thesupremeginge
Showing me a chart provided by Intel... You might as well show me a graph showing the ratio to unicorn farts to volcanic ash during the apocalypse.
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Showing me a chart provided by Intel... You might as well show me a graph showing the ratio to unicorn farts to volcanic ash during the apocalypse.
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oraz.
I wonder if ai packages like tensorflow much any use of the NPU if you have a discrete GPU. If not It would be kinf of a Windows only feature on the chip.
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I wonder if ai packages like tensorflow much any use of the NPU if you have a discrete GPU. If not It would be kinf of a Windows only feature on the chip.
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gasracing5000
Intel is using chiplets As in a glued together desktop die With some filler tiles tossed in for good measure
I'm not angry, just disappointed.
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Intel is using chiplets As in a glued together desktop die With some filler tiles tossed in for good measure
I'm not angry, just disappointed.
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dipperq
for first minutes, i was debating whether that's Gordon that lost tons of weight
Those Caches still no match with x3d chipset, correct
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for first minutes, i was debating whether that's Gordon that lost tons of weight
Those Caches still no match with x3d chipset, correct
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SaturnusDK
What the hell does: Suggested eTail Price even mean
I assume it's not a typo because it's repeated on all 5 listed CPUs.
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What the hell does: Suggested eTail Price even mean
I assume it's not a typo because it's repeated on all 5 listed CPUs.
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