Pixel x86: A New Mini MS-DOS & Windows Gaming PC!
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Date: 2025-01-11
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tomferguson9250
Great stuff, glad you're getting back to videos after the rough time with storms & everything else. These are cool, only gripe is not having a dedicated video chip but I know that'd cost more to implement. I still have an old retro Dell laptop with a 1. 1Ghz P3, maxed 512MB memory, upgraded 80GB laptop drive & Nvidia GeForce2 Go video. Other than the screen being a little dim & re-pasting the CPU, it's a little beast & works great with an external LCD. Pretty sure I snagged in during a parts recycling run at an old job like 10 years ago, outside the hard drive being shot the only thing it needed was a new battery. This & my Thinkpad T61 are my go-to Win98 & XP retro gaming systems, they don't build laptops like they used to.
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Great stuff, glad you're getting back to videos after the rough time with storms & everything else. These are cool, only gripe is not having a dedicated video chip but I know that'd cost more to implement. I still have an old retro Dell laptop with a 1. 1Ghz P3, maxed 512MB memory, upgraded 80GB laptop drive & Nvidia GeForce2 Go video. Other than the screen being a little dim & re-pasting the CPU, it's a little beast & works great with an external LCD. Pretty sure I snagged in during a parts recycling run at an old job like 10 years ago, outside the hard drive being shot the only thing it needed was a new battery. This & my Thinkpad T61 are my go-to Win98 & XP retro gaming systems, they don't build laptops like they used to.
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ihateevilbill
16: 17 Thats the way Tomb Raider would run on my S3 Virge (which I only had for about 2 months total. Very choppy. It's the reason I upgraded ASAP to my voodoo banshee card.
It's kind of a shame that we cant get mini banshee's for those machines. The first time I saw Quake 2 for example, was on a P2 233 platform sans graphics card (quite a high spec at the time, but my friends dad worked at IBM. It wasnt that long after, that I bought a P2 300 and the banshee. Quake 2 was glorious and I never looked back.
(My S3 virge was thrown out of my top flat window, in case you were wondering XD.
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16: 17 Thats the way Tomb Raider would run on my S3 Virge (which I only had for about 2 months total. Very choppy. It's the reason I upgraded ASAP to my voodoo banshee card.
It's kind of a shame that we cant get mini banshee's for those machines. The first time I saw Quake 2 for example, was on a P2 233 platform sans graphics card (quite a high spec at the time, but my friends dad worked at IBM. It wasnt that long after, that I bought a P2 300 and the banshee. Quake 2 was glorious and I never looked back.
(My S3 virge was thrown out of my top flat window, in case you were wondering XD.
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Guroth
While i was watching the video, i decided to take a glance at their website. At first I thought oh wow $89 Then I clicked on configuration, oh my word, that final price made my eye's water! $500! Yikes! I guess this sort of product is aimed at people who really want to run things on a x86 cpu, not DosBox. As for me I picked up a think client new in box for $10 just before christmas, it's tiny and can easily run DOS box or a virtual machine. At that price point, it's hard to justify the $500 for a trip down nostalgia avenue. Great video Clint, hope you are well, lovely to see you still making content.
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While i was watching the video, i decided to take a glance at their website. At first I thought oh wow $89 Then I clicked on configuration, oh my word, that final price made my eye's water! $500! Yikes! I guess this sort of product is aimed at people who really want to run things on a x86 cpu, not DosBox. As for me I picked up a think client new in box for $10 just before christmas, it's tiny and can easily run DOS box or a virtual machine. At that price point, it's hard to justify the $500 for a trip down nostalgia avenue. Great video Clint, hope you are well, lovely to see you still making content.
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vaclavlev5214
Another nice, but unnecessary retro product. I can have mini PC that is smaller and lighter than this, and can emulate up to P150 on PCEM offering various original CPUs, motherboards and GPUs (with 3dfx, D3D) for just 200 - 250$. Also it just doesnt feel right to see year 2010 and 800Mhz clockspeed on Win98 machines boot screen. I wonder if its possible to create really old CPUs like 486s with modern manufacturing proccess. So you could have one multisocket board with various retro PCs.
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Another nice, but unnecessary retro product. I can have mini PC that is smaller and lighter than this, and can emulate up to P150 on PCEM offering various original CPUs, motherboards and GPUs (with 3dfx, D3D) for just 200 - 250$. Also it just doesnt feel right to see year 2010 and 800Mhz clockspeed on Win98 machines boot screen. I wonder if its possible to create really old CPUs like 486s with modern manufacturing proccess. So you could have one multisocket board with various retro PCs.
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Foostini
It's a complicated emotion, i'm really truly glad little custom hardware projects like this exist but. yeesh that price. I'd rather have the fun of tracking down original hardware than shell out quite that much. It unfortunately creates a vicious cycle though, they have to recoup development costs but they're pricing people out of their work but nobody buying it leads to higher prices in a harder push to recoup but that even further prices people out yadda yadda.
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It's a complicated emotion, i'm really truly glad little custom hardware projects like this exist but. yeesh that price. I'd rather have the fun of tracking down original hardware than shell out quite that much. It unfortunately creates a vicious cycle though, they have to recoup development costs but they're pricing people out of their work but nobody buying it leads to higher prices in a harder push to recoup but that even further prices people out yadda yadda.
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MonochromeWench
ITX motherboard has a sata port so it should allow using a cdrom drive in dos and would be my preference, though I already have systems that fulfill my needs and don't need another especially not at the price they are selling these at. Needing to use USB for connectivity kind of sucks especially with Windows 98. a lot of modern USB devices just do not have drivers for Win98 and Win98's built-in USB drivers kind of suck for the devices it natively supports
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ITX motherboard has a sata port so it should allow using a cdrom drive in dos and would be my preference, though I already have systems that fulfill my needs and don't need another especially not at the price they are selling these at. Needing to use USB for connectivity kind of sucks especially with Windows 98. a lot of modern USB devices just do not have drivers for Win98 and Win98's built-in USB drivers kind of suck for the devices it natively supports
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johnglielmi6428
Hey Clint, How is the house repair coming along Hopefully your collection wasn't too damaged from the hurricane. I know how it feels to not be in your home after a catastrophe. I was living in a hotel for 8 months after a car had crashed into my appartment. Lost all my stuff because it was all exposed to the elements as a result of delays in reconstruction. So I feel you friend.
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Hey Clint, How is the house repair coming along Hopefully your collection wasn't too damaged from the hurricane. I know how it feels to not be in your home after a catastrophe. I was living in a hotel for 8 months after a car had crashed into my appartment. Lost all my stuff because it was all exposed to the elements as a result of delays in reconstruction. So I feel you friend.
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notcaptain1
The price is definitely too high, but I think that's the trap that devices like this fall into. The user base is way too niche to justify mass production, so the producing costs per unit are high. By the time you tack on enough margin to pay your team and maybe make a profit, (again keeping in mind you're unlikely to sell a ton of these, the price tag looks insane.
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The price is definitely too high, but I think that's the trap that devices like this fall into. The user base is way too niche to justify mass production, so the producing costs per unit are high. By the time you tack on enough margin to pay your team and maybe make a profit, (again keeping in mind you're unlikely to sell a ton of these, the price tag looks insane.
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SockyNoob
$500 isn't even that bad. Prices for 90s PCs have skyrocketed to well over $200 alone and parts can easily fetch over $100. Not everyone has access to e-waste centers with plentiful choices to choose from, so this is a totally reasonable price. Plus the SoC ain't cheap and this a boutique product that'll likely only sell a few thousand at most.
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$500 isn't even that bad. Prices for 90s PCs have skyrocketed to well over $200 alone and parts can easily fetch over $100. Not everyone has access to e-waste centers with plentiful choices to choose from, so this is a totally reasonable price. Plus the SoC ain't cheap and this a boutique product that'll likely only sell a few thousand at most.
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smcurro
It'd be amazing to see a flavor of this idea as a brand new ATX or micro ATX motherboard with a few PCI, ISA and AGP if possible - maybe with the biggest compromise being soldered RAM only. Could add a 12VDC to -5VDC supply onto the board for ISA, and use the 24 pin ATX power connector. I hope the Mini ITX boards evolve into this someday!
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It'd be amazing to see a flavor of this idea as a brand new ATX or micro ATX motherboard with a few PCI, ISA and AGP if possible - maybe with the biggest compromise being soldered RAM only. Could add a 12VDC to -5VDC supply onto the board for ISA, and use the 24 pin ATX power connector. I hope the Mini ITX boards evolve into this someday!
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TECHiSuppose
18: 00 The ITX one make a lot of sense! Very neat. It's nice to see solutions to running older software. I was finally able to play my favorite recing game Outrun 2006 on a current gen PC thanks to a modder's project called OutRun2006Tweaks, but otherwise that game would have been a no-go unless I built something older.
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18: 00 The ITX one make a lot of sense! Very neat. It's nice to see solutions to running older software. I was finally able to play my favorite recing game Outrun 2006 on a current gen PC thanks to a modder's project called OutRun2006Tweaks, but otherwise that game would have been a no-go unless I built something older.
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indiana2096
Very nice device, it would be fun running old games in the real world again. But, for $500. 00, I will stick with DOSBox, it's not perfect but it gets me 99% of the way, I can even run Windows 3. 1 games for the most part. I would love to be able to play some of my Win95/98 games that stopped working after XP!
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Very nice device, it would be fun running old games in the real world again. But, for $500. 00, I will stick with DOSBox, it's not perfect but it gets me 99% of the way, I can even run Windows 3. 1 games for the most part. I would love to be able to play some of my Win95/98 games that stopped working after XP!
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stoojinator
This would be awesome to own - either of them. But they are way to expensive. Even at half the price, they would still be expensive. Which is a bummer. But I understand they need to recoup some of their R&D costs. But I wonder if they'd do that faster at a more affordable price point
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This would be awesome to own - either of them. But they are way to expensive. Even at half the price, they would still be expensive. Which is a bummer. But I understand they need to recoup some of their R&D costs. But I wonder if they'd do that faster at a more affordable price point
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sanjurohokusai
This will help with games that require the secuROM DRM that makes older games no longer work on modern OSes. So i'm considering this because in Vancouver, BC where I am from. Even if you do find retro hardware. The prices are. Debatable and if they even function. Also debatable.
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This will help with games that require the secuROM DRM that makes older games no longer work on modern OSes. So i'm considering this because in Vancouver, BC where I am from. Even if you do find retro hardware. The prices are. Debatable and if they even function. Also debatable.
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AmyraCarter
No doubt, these are really cool. Not sure if I'd throw down that much for this. I may of paid $750 for my Steam Deck, but there's a huge difference between that, and this here, for those who wanna compare. I'm not looking to make another single large purchase like that, right now.
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No doubt, these are really cool. Not sure if I'd throw down that much for this. I may of paid $750 for my Steam Deck, but there's a huge difference between that, and this here, for those who wanna compare. I'm not looking to make another single large purchase like that, right now.
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StarFury2
Pay $400 because it's vintage performing hardware slower than today's watch, but then pay $100 more for DX version if you want better performance
It's neither the authenticity of the real thing, nor the convenience of an emulator, for 500 bucks I really don't get the point of it.
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Pay $400 because it's vintage performing hardware slower than today's watch, but then pay $100 more for DX version if you want better performance
It's neither the authenticity of the real thing, nor the convenience of an emulator, for 500 bucks I really don't get the point of it.
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markjames8664
Based on experience with Raspberry Pi, running an OS on an SD card is iffy in terms of the lifespan of those cards. You could boot one of these from an external drive but that boosts the cost even more. It’s not hard to back up these cards but that’s still extra work.
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Based on experience with Raspberry Pi, running an OS on an SD card is iffy in terms of the lifespan of those cards. You could boot one of these from an external drive but that boosts the cost even more. It’s not hard to back up these cards but that’s still extra work.
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janwitkowsky8787
And here I can find an EBOX-3350MX-AP, for 400 DKK (57 USD) that is essentially the same.
Yet to figure out if Win98 is supported, but DOS is and even WinXP, though it's laggy.
My thinking is, that if DOS can run, you can also install Win98 on top of it.
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And here I can find an EBOX-3350MX-AP, for 400 DKK (57 USD) that is essentially the same.
Yet to figure out if Win98 is supported, but DOS is and even WinXP, though it's laggy.
My thinking is, that if DOS can run, you can also install Win98 on top of it.
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PiercedJedi
these look pretty interesting, but I'd really like to see something with a couple card slots, AGP and/or PCI, to plug in a real GPU and/or sound card, and the prices are kinda steep for my taste.
Oh I see that there is something in the works with a PCI port.
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these look pretty interesting, but I'd really like to see something with a couple card slots, AGP and/or PCI, to plug in a real GPU and/or sound card, and the prices are kinda steep for my taste.
Oh I see that there is something in the works with a PCI port.
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fauzirahman3285
I think this would be good as a gift or for those who aren't tech savvy or trying to declutter, but otherwise for someone who's quite comfortable with technology, emulation and getting a bunch of USB adaptors can easily run these games on existing systems.
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I think this would be good as a gift or for those who aren't tech savvy or trying to declutter, but otherwise for someone who's quite comfortable with technology, emulation and getting a bunch of USB adaptors can easily run these games on existing systems.
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