The Science of Getting -Jacked- (JUST PUBLISHED)
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Date: 2022-04-22
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Christopher
Science wants to specifically dissect, and that comes with a side-effect of not taking into account many influencing factors that are not an object of the study. SUCH AS NUTRITION! I couldn't agree more with you Jeff, with regard to the whole -we can't control what they do when they go home- element. Like studies proving sun glasses are necessary to protect against cataracts, while there's no account of wether or not the observed people are eating foods that are good for their eyes, like carrots or broccoli. Nutrition is everything.
Even stretching before bed seriously helps with recovery, as does getting plenty of healthy, wholesome, SLOW carbs to replenish glycogen stores. Even factors such as some participants living VERY stressful lives while some may live very carefree. Life is EXTREMELY interconnected, and to account for all of that is. well, impossible. But that's not to just say -to hell with studies-. It's mainly to say that a performance in the gym is deeply connected to how that person is living the other 23 hours of the day, and that ought to be accounted for as best as possible for any given fitness study. Because fitness, TO BE FIT, is a lifestyle. And lifestyle is the accumulation of interconnected behaviors!
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Science wants to specifically dissect, and that comes with a side-effect of not taking into account many influencing factors that are not an object of the study. SUCH AS NUTRITION! I couldn't agree more with you Jeff, with regard to the whole -we can't control what they do when they go home- element. Like studies proving sun glasses are necessary to protect against cataracts, while there's no account of wether or not the observed people are eating foods that are good for their eyes, like carrots or broccoli. Nutrition is everything.
Even stretching before bed seriously helps with recovery, as does getting plenty of healthy, wholesome, SLOW carbs to replenish glycogen stores. Even factors such as some participants living VERY stressful lives while some may live very carefree. Life is EXTREMELY interconnected, and to account for all of that is. well, impossible. But that's not to just say -to hell with studies-. It's mainly to say that a performance in the gym is deeply connected to how that person is living the other 23 hours of the day, and that ought to be accounted for as best as possible for any given fitness study. Because fitness, TO BE FIT, is a lifestyle. And lifestyle is the accumulation of interconnected behaviors!
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Afonso
Hi Jeff. I'm studying molecular biology, almost finishing. I can tell you this that you pointed is a problem not only with fitness, but with the whole -science is the base- thing. There's an article or book I read once called -The caricature of darwinism- in which the author demonstrates how many have the made error of extrapolating ones theories (that can be well applied to a certain extent) to their own work. In that case, many came after Darwin and used his natural selection and evolution concepts like if they could be applied to things that we're not the case study back then. What I mean is, scientific articles are for people who do scientific research, and even those people make HUGE mistakes. Don't get me wrong, Science is my passion, but good Science. Half the studies I've read on athletic performance are not properly conducted because they are either not making sure theres only one variable in stake, or they quantify the wrong things. my 2 cents. I love what you do Jeff, keep it up!
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Hi Jeff. I'm studying molecular biology, almost finishing. I can tell you this that you pointed is a problem not only with fitness, but with the whole -science is the base- thing. There's an article or book I read once called -The caricature of darwinism- in which the author demonstrates how many have the made error of extrapolating ones theories (that can be well applied to a certain extent) to their own work. In that case, many came after Darwin and used his natural selection and evolution concepts like if they could be applied to things that we're not the case study back then. What I mean is, scientific articles are for people who do scientific research, and even those people make HUGE mistakes. Don't get me wrong, Science is my passion, but good Science. Half the studies I've read on athletic performance are not properly conducted because they are either not making sure theres only one variable in stake, or they quantify the wrong things. my 2 cents. I love what you do Jeff, keep it up!
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Dr
I am a scientist. My PhD is on sustainable complex systems. And every real-life system I know is complex. we only see them differently because simple-linear-complicated systems are a lot easier to teach, research, and understand. I am 100 % with your position. since my perspective of complexity (non-linearity: there is no such thing as cause-and-effect) is from engineering, I know there are only case-studies, meaning that the two essential principles of. classic, linear science are impossible to achieve in complex systems such as biological. entities: context independence, and Ceteris paribus. to face and harness complexity, we design heuristics such as the ones you design and work with, based on the dynamic body of science, but adapted in a day-to-day and individual dynamic characteristics of the people you are coaching. kudos!
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I am a scientist. My PhD is on sustainable complex systems. And every real-life system I know is complex. we only see them differently because simple-linear-complicated systems are a lot easier to teach, research, and understand. I am 100 % with your position. since my perspective of complexity (non-linearity: there is no such thing as cause-and-effect) is from engineering, I know there are only case-studies, meaning that the two essential principles of. classic, linear science are impossible to achieve in complex systems such as biological. entities: context independence, and Ceteris paribus. to face and harness complexity, we design heuristics such as the ones you design and work with, based on the dynamic body of science, but adapted in a day-to-day and individual dynamic characteristics of the people you are coaching. kudos!
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Rykehuss
Thats the problem with studies like these. These include dietary studies as well (you cant eat this! oh wait, you can! no you cant! etc. the data is BAD. You cant exactly lock a 100 people up in a warehouse full of nothing but bunks and gym equipment, with armed guards preventing them for leaving for a year, while giving them the exact proportions of foods in the exact right macros, and making sure they do each exercise exactly right, all the time. Sadly thats the only way to get any real, reliable (ish) data from stuff like this.
There's an exception to this rule on social/physiological/psychological studies though. Thats studies and experiments done in prisons. Because guess what? Prisons have a way of (usually) controlling whats going on with the -subjects-.
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Thats the problem with studies like these. These include dietary studies as well (you cant eat this! oh wait, you can! no you cant! etc. the data is BAD. You cant exactly lock a 100 people up in a warehouse full of nothing but bunks and gym equipment, with armed guards preventing them for leaving for a year, while giving them the exact proportions of foods in the exact right macros, and making sure they do each exercise exactly right, all the time. Sadly thats the only way to get any real, reliable (ish) data from stuff like this.
There's an exception to this rule on social/physiological/psychological studies though. Thats studies and experiments done in prisons. Because guess what? Prisons have a way of (usually) controlling whats going on with the -subjects-.
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Mark
I was part of a study for the Army that compared cross-fit to the Army PRT. And it was so subjective, and dependent on how a person did the exercise. I was part of the study, and I didn't have any faith in the results. You gotta know what works for you, and you have to follow or not follow what the study actually did. Personally, I think you have to develop that mind-muscle connection, and you have to overload to failure in different ways - time, weight, and eccentric. Since watching Jeff's videos, I've gone back to a lot of rest-pause, and drop sets -- old school Joe Weider principle stuff. I focus on lowering the weight slowly more often. And it works for building muscle. I also love the variety of exercises that Jeff shows. He thinks up stuff that no one else does.
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I was part of a study for the Army that compared cross-fit to the Army PRT. And it was so subjective, and dependent on how a person did the exercise. I was part of the study, and I didn't have any faith in the results. You gotta know what works for you, and you have to follow or not follow what the study actually did. Personally, I think you have to develop that mind-muscle connection, and you have to overload to failure in different ways - time, weight, and eccentric. Since watching Jeff's videos, I've gone back to a lot of rest-pause, and drop sets -- old school Joe Weider principle stuff. I focus on lowering the weight slowly more often. And it works for building muscle. I also love the variety of exercises that Jeff shows. He thinks up stuff that no one else does.
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James
This is one of the best explanations of the use of science I've heard--not just for fitness and exercise, but ALL sciences face these challenges--VERY well presented. Everyone using science in every field should understand these thoughts around subject selection, necessary over-simplification of abstracts, censored and truncated participation, how the variables controlled (e. g. body type) might be EXACTLY the variable that is your biggest problem thus making the experiment totally worthless FOR YOU yet perfect for someone else, and so on. Great breakdown of how science works in real life. I wish it was as easy as -read the abstract and beat on your friends with it-.
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This is one of the best explanations of the use of science I've heard--not just for fitness and exercise, but ALL sciences face these challenges--VERY well presented. Everyone using science in every field should understand these thoughts around subject selection, necessary over-simplification of abstracts, censored and truncated participation, how the variables controlled (e. g. body type) might be EXACTLY the variable that is your biggest problem thus making the experiment totally worthless FOR YOU yet perfect for someone else, and so on. Great breakdown of how science works in real life. I wish it was as easy as -read the abstract and beat on your friends with it-.
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Cristian
that is cience evidence my sr, cientific evidence is the most important base for understand what really have effects. In not trainner but Im a cientist, you have to integrate three important parts for apply any scientific evidence is, 1. the cientific evidence, 2. the personal needs and 3. the personal experience. and ovbusly diferent test can be made and published but you have to examine what kind of evidence is the quiality of the reaserch. I think this is soo far for the common people, a scientist need almost a year to learn to select the evidence in tjhe literature.
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that is cience evidence my sr, cientific evidence is the most important base for understand what really have effects. In not trainner but Im a cientist, you have to integrate three important parts for apply any scientific evidence is, 1. the cientific evidence, 2. the personal needs and 3. the personal experience. and ovbusly diferent test can be made and published but you have to examine what kind of evidence is the quiality of the reaserch. I think this is soo far for the common people, a scientist need almost a year to learn to select the evidence in tjhe literature.
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Psalm
As a science student, I can tell you are completely right. Because something got published does not mean it-s true. The problem is that the average people are easily impressed by everything that sounds scientific and do not have enough scientific knowledge in the field to have critical thinking.
I have read many bad articles published in many renowned journals. They got published because the main author has connections not because either their paper or the science in it is good.
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As a science student, I can tell you are completely right. Because something got published does not mean it-s true. The problem is that the average people are easily impressed by everything that sounds scientific and do not have enough scientific knowledge in the field to have critical thinking.
I have read many bad articles published in many renowned journals. They got published because the main author has connections not because either their paper or the science in it is good.
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mohamed
Hy man Im from Egypt and I'm one of your biggest followers, You've been my motivator for the past two years. I lost 70 kilos and got in shape through your vids and techniques. I have a problem I can't get rid of theloose skin around my belly. I've always been a sports guy even when I was 140k so my skin isn't too loose and flabby. I would appreciate any tips because all the vids out there are a joke and I don't trust most of them. Thank you man
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Hy man Im from Egypt and I'm one of your biggest followers, You've been my motivator for the past two years. I lost 70 kilos and got in shape through your vids and techniques. I have a problem I can't get rid of theloose skin around my belly. I've always been a sports guy even when I was 140k so my skin isn't too loose and flabby. I would appreciate any tips because all the vids out there are a joke and I don't trust most of them. Thank you man
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VENI
Hey Jeff, ive got a question (anyone can answer tho. im 16 years old and 5. 8ft with a very skinny non muscular physique. I love basketball and ive got the defender/rebounder role in my team. My height would not be appropriate for professional basketball but for now it is okay. My problem is that im way too weak. Does bulking means that i will not be able to jump as high as i do now? Or does it mean that i will not be that fast?
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Hey Jeff, ive got a question (anyone can answer tho. im 16 years old and 5. 8ft with a very skinny non muscular physique. I love basketball and ive got the defender/rebounder role in my team. My height would not be appropriate for professional basketball but for now it is okay. My problem is that im way too weak. Does bulking means that i will not be able to jump as high as i do now? Or does it mean that i will not be that fast?
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