Is the Raspberry Pi a PC, tech journalism ethics, Q&A - The Half Nerd ep. 147. 5
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Date: 2022-03-15
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Clay
As far as what a PC is. I've always considered the hardware isn't what makes it a PC or not. Take two identical itx motherboards with the same components. Put one in a case and hook up a keyboard and mouse. Add a hard drive etc. That's a PC. Put the exact same motherboard into a sealed box where there is no way to get at it naturally to upgrade it and now that's a device. Same hardware, different conditions. One is a sealed computer that isn't designed to be upgraded and the other is.
This gets hard to hold as an argument when you consider a laptop is a PC but you can get them and they cannot be upgraded but I'd still argue a laptop you can't upgrade memory, harddrive, storage and so on. That's not a laptop anymore, its a device. Like my fridge can have a touch screen and a computer running any OS but that's a device, its not a PC.
Interesting how people see it all differently and I think other definitions are perfectly valid. The dictionary for instance just states its a computer that a person can use lol. That's everything with a processor. a Smart smoke alarm is a PC according to the dictionary so I think they're behind the times there.
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As far as what a PC is. I've always considered the hardware isn't what makes it a PC or not. Take two identical itx motherboards with the same components. Put one in a case and hook up a keyboard and mouse. Add a hard drive etc. That's a PC. Put the exact same motherboard into a sealed box where there is no way to get at it naturally to upgrade it and now that's a device. Same hardware, different conditions. One is a sealed computer that isn't designed to be upgraded and the other is.
This gets hard to hold as an argument when you consider a laptop is a PC but you can get them and they cannot be upgraded but I'd still argue a laptop you can't upgrade memory, harddrive, storage and so on. That's not a laptop anymore, its a device. Like my fridge can have a touch screen and a computer running any OS but that's a device, its not a PC.
Interesting how people see it all differently and I think other definitions are perfectly valid. The dictionary for instance just states its a computer that a person can use lol. That's everything with a processor. a Smart smoke alarm is a PC according to the dictionary so I think they're behind the times there.
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Moonbread1
The difference between a journalist and influencer. Well in mainstream news, A journalist works for an outfit that hasn't made a profit in at lest 10 years and is kept afloat by venture capital funneled from the political party's with the intent to influence political views. An influencer works for an outfit that is profitable and is kept afloat by sponsors and viewers with the intent to influence consumer views. Conclusion? The journalist is a type of highly compromised influencer that presents as a wolf in sheep's clothing always trying to pass as an independent news agent, and an influencer is a type of moderately compromised journalist that presents as a wolf in wolfs' clothing always acknowledging their sponsors, unless they start trying to act as a modern journalist, always trying to pass as the old time independent journalist, the type that used to exist at any number of profitable news outlets in the distant past. I don't know if this applies to tech journalism, only you can say. Are people quietly and gradually pushed out that are not party line with your funding sources and those that are party line get pushed up?
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The difference between a journalist and influencer. Well in mainstream news, A journalist works for an outfit that hasn't made a profit in at lest 10 years and is kept afloat by venture capital funneled from the political party's with the intent to influence political views. An influencer works for an outfit that is profitable and is kept afloat by sponsors and viewers with the intent to influence consumer views. Conclusion? The journalist is a type of highly compromised influencer that presents as a wolf in sheep's clothing always trying to pass as an independent news agent, and an influencer is a type of moderately compromised journalist that presents as a wolf in wolfs' clothing always acknowledging their sponsors, unless they start trying to act as a modern journalist, always trying to pass as the old time independent journalist, the type that used to exist at any number of profitable news outlets in the distant past. I don't know if this applies to tech journalism, only you can say. Are people quietly and gradually pushed out that are not party line with your funding sources and those that are party line get pushed up?
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wysetech2000
I think journalism is necessary to test and inform people about products that we may use or want to purchase, but why do some journalists and YouTube creators think it's necessary to totally trash a company for something substandard in the product review?
Today's consumer is different now. Once a company is trashed people won't forget and the company suffers, sometimes forever, even if they may improve the product.
Look at Intel, they had shady business practices over a decade ago and today most people continue to bash on Intel because of it. Most of the people involved at Intel got fired! This reflects on how today's consumer thinks.
I would think that pointing out a poor product to the consumer without insulting or company bashing would have the same effect without giving a company a bad taste in the consumers mouths forever.
Maybe i'm old school but every time i hear a company totally trashed for whatever reason i cringe! This to me is not Journalism.
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I think journalism is necessary to test and inform people about products that we may use or want to purchase, but why do some journalists and YouTube creators think it's necessary to totally trash a company for something substandard in the product review?
Today's consumer is different now. Once a company is trashed people won't forget and the company suffers, sometimes forever, even if they may improve the product.
Look at Intel, they had shady business practices over a decade ago and today most people continue to bash on Intel because of it. Most of the people involved at Intel got fired! This reflects on how today's consumer thinks.
I would think that pointing out a poor product to the consumer without insulting or company bashing would have the same effect without giving a company a bad taste in the consumers mouths forever.
Maybe i'm old school but every time i hear a company totally trashed for whatever reason i cringe! This to me is not Journalism.
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Pedro
1: 14: 20 heck! deleted my comment on that -poo- -Transplantation- correcting the time stamp. was something like: please don't do random comments on medicine. It is ALWAYS Dangerous to give any sort of -not well informed- commentary on any matter. I wont go in deep. Its not -poo- its the -microbiota- or -bacteria- (AKA Bacteriotherapy) that is -transplanted-. Not the -poo-. Sorry guys its like the only topic (due to the harm it can cause) that triggers me.
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1: 14: 20 heck! deleted my comment on that -poo- -Transplantation- correcting the time stamp. was something like: please don't do random comments on medicine. It is ALWAYS Dangerous to give any sort of -not well informed- commentary on any matter. I wont go in deep. Its not -poo- its the -microbiota- or -bacteria- (AKA Bacteriotherapy) that is -transplanted-. Not the -poo-. Sorry guys its like the only topic (due to the harm it can cause) that triggers me.
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Voll
You are such hypocrites for your msi defense/chilling, -it was probably a new employee or something like that- is pretty much the exact opposite of what Steve from gamers nexus described.
Msi has done this more than one or 2 times.
I am very disappointed, you lost a least my trust in your reviews. You are sinking very fast to the bottom of the barrel, just like toms Hardware, which is more or less advertisement in disguise.
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You are such hypocrites for your msi defense/chilling, -it was probably a new employee or something like that- is pretty much the exact opposite of what Steve from gamers nexus described.
Msi has done this more than one or 2 times.
I am very disappointed, you lost a least my trust in your reviews. You are sinking very fast to the bottom of the barrel, just like toms Hardware, which is more or less advertisement in disguise.
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MrMalchore
the raspberry pi is absoltely a PC. (Well, the Raspberry Pi 4 is) It's got a fast enough 4-core processor and if you buy it with enough RAM you can use it like any normal Linux desktop computer. You can even overclock it beyond 2GHz. There is a 64-bit OS on the way (not officially supported yet) Supports WiFi b/g/n and bluetooth 4. 0. Has 2xUSB 2. 0 and 2xUSB 3. 0 gen 1 5Gbps plus dual HDMI output to two monitors at 4K-60Hz.
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the raspberry pi is absoltely a PC. (Well, the Raspberry Pi 4 is) It's got a fast enough 4-core processor and if you buy it with enough RAM you can use it like any normal Linux desktop computer. You can even overclock it beyond 2GHz. There is a 64-bit OS on the way (not officially supported yet) Supports WiFi b/g/n and bluetooth 4. 0. Has 2xUSB 2. 0 and 2xUSB 3. 0 gen 1 5Gbps plus dual HDMI output to two monitors at 4K-60Hz.
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SteelSkin667
I think that most people think of PCs as the computers that form the lineage of the IBM PC and later -PC compatible- clones, ie x86 machines with a PC compatible firmware.
As far as I'm concerned though, the experience of using a Raspberry Pi is basically indistinguishable from using any PC running Linux, so it entirely deserves to be elevated to the rank of a fully-fledged PC.
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I think that most people think of PCs as the computers that form the lineage of the IBM PC and later -PC compatible- clones, ie x86 machines with a PC compatible firmware.
As far as I'm concerned though, the experience of using a Raspberry Pi is basically indistinguishable from using any PC running Linux, so it entirely deserves to be elevated to the rank of a fully-fledged PC.
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PE4Doers
On Ethics of tech journalists, that needs to be fully discussed. Unfortunately, money has power and too many of those that we should depend on for impartial opinions needs to be questioned. I have chosen to NEVER watch a couple of YouTube reviewers since they have blatantly violated public trust, while presenting themselves as being completely impartial.
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On Ethics of tech journalists, that needs to be fully discussed. Unfortunately, money has power and too many of those that we should depend on for impartial opinions needs to be questioned. I have chosen to NEVER watch a couple of YouTube reviewers since they have blatantly violated public trust, while presenting themselves as being completely impartial.
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liaminwales
Raspberry Pi is a dedicated computer, it must be one of the largest selling small factor PC being sold worldwide for the last few years.
the simplest way to look at it is people think of phones as a phone and Raspberry Pi as a small computer.
iv been lazy for years but i relay do need to look in to getting a Raspberry Pi to learn with
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Raspberry Pi is a dedicated computer, it must be one of the largest selling small factor PC being sold worldwide for the last few years.
the simplest way to look at it is people think of phones as a phone and Raspberry Pi as a small computer.
iv been lazy for years but i relay do need to look in to getting a Raspberry Pi to learn with
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Pedro
- Now youtube wont sent mail notifications. For me, at least, is an -issue- since I only tried 1 day the youtube app notifications and got way too many. and also never watch videos on my movil, if any, on my tablet. Too bad. Already missed lots and lots of stuff. And will be even more late to watch you guys -
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- Now youtube wont sent mail notifications. For me, at least, is an -issue- since I only tried 1 day the youtube app notifications and got way too many. and also never watch videos on my movil, if any, on my tablet. Too bad. Already missed lots and lots of stuff. And will be even more late to watch you guys -
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