Asus' Prime Utopia wants to kill ATX
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Date: 2022-03-15
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Maarten
Absolutely agree, but not a fan of the prototype.
I love the idea of the modular IO interfaces. I had this idea for years, ever since motherboard and GPU company's add extra SATA/Firewire and other controllers which 90% of user never use.
All these extra controllers cost extra, they all use a bit of energy and are unused. Madness. Change them out for extra PCIe lanes or so. Back to the basics!
Design a quality budget board with everything the CPU/chipset offers and no more.
Hell, I wouldn't mind personally of you took away my onboard audio, video, bluetooth, wifi. Just leave my diagnostic display.
I remember the idea of BTX being launched and I think apple had been listening for their tower designs, I believe they all had some sort of wind tunnels, very 19- server rack like.
The GPU placement right now looks thermally very inefficient. The PCI slot backplates are either closed or too air restritive.
People have been trying to solve that by inverted or vertical motherboards, but they were mostly rare breeds.
The PCIe cards need space to breathe. We have GPU's with higher TDP's than CPU's and yet we offer the mess space, smaller heatsinks and smaller fans.
Madness really.
Power and Sata ( U. 2? ) connectors on the back are a cable management dream! Oh, and whilst we're at it, make the PSU side of modular powercables a standard as well.
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Absolutely agree, but not a fan of the prototype.
I love the idea of the modular IO interfaces. I had this idea for years, ever since motherboard and GPU company's add extra SATA/Firewire and other controllers which 90% of user never use.
All these extra controllers cost extra, they all use a bit of energy and are unused. Madness. Change them out for extra PCIe lanes or so. Back to the basics!
Design a quality budget board with everything the CPU/chipset offers and no more.
Hell, I wouldn't mind personally of you took away my onboard audio, video, bluetooth, wifi. Just leave my diagnostic display.
I remember the idea of BTX being launched and I think apple had been listening for their tower designs, I believe they all had some sort of wind tunnels, very 19- server rack like.
The GPU placement right now looks thermally very inefficient. The PCI slot backplates are either closed or too air restritive.
People have been trying to solve that by inverted or vertical motherboards, but they were mostly rare breeds.
The PCIe cards need space to breathe. We have GPU's with higher TDP's than CPU's and yet we offer the mess space, smaller heatsinks and smaller fans.
Madness really.
Power and Sata ( U. 2? ) connectors on the back are a cable management dream! Oh, and whilst we're at it, make the PSU side of modular powercables a standard as well.
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Jason
Modular IO, video card placement, bigger opening on back panel for a cleaner water cooling system, standardize holes next to the cpu to allow pipes to pass through. nothing has to change, we don't need to cover it so everything bakes under plastic. maybe a Bluetooth to phone app that can control the pc, why do you need another control panel, i already info and control for AMD on my phone. we have open case products (thermaltake P3/P5, all they did was make the board incompatible with the ATX back plate. everything else could still be done with the ATX case, you could add modular I/o to any motherboard today!
All they did was make something they could do today, look like a 1990's scifi movie by adding a ton of plastic! in the words of Apple, who take something that has been in production but decides to adapt it, what do they call it, OH REVOLUTIONARY! LMFAO cool board no doubt! do the modular I/O now! wifi or bluetooth control and info on the phone, that can be done now!
Save the plastic and the environment, you can do that NOW!
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Modular IO, video card placement, bigger opening on back panel for a cleaner water cooling system, standardize holes next to the cpu to allow pipes to pass through. nothing has to change, we don't need to cover it so everything bakes under plastic. maybe a Bluetooth to phone app that can control the pc, why do you need another control panel, i already info and control for AMD on my phone. we have open case products (thermaltake P3/P5, all they did was make the board incompatible with the ATX back plate. everything else could still be done with the ATX case, you could add modular I/o to any motherboard today!
All they did was make something they could do today, look like a 1990's scifi movie by adding a ton of plastic! in the words of Apple, who take something that has been in production but decides to adapt it, what do they call it, OH REVOLUTIONARY! LMFAO cool board no doubt! do the modular I/O now! wifi or bluetooth control and info on the phone, that can be done now!
Save the plastic and the environment, you can do that NOW!
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kek
There is a lot of room to improve ATX, it feels like a relic from the beige age. The general Idea of ATX is good, (I wouldn't want to see a free for all, with everyone making their own standard) but it needs a serious modernization. For example we should be finding a way to utilize both sides of the motherboard PCB, some small ITX boards I have seen have done that by mounting the M. 2 slot on the back. Trends change, for example RAM heat sinks and football sized CPU air coolers, they don't fit together so close. It should be updated to ATX 2. 0, however I would NOT like to see it updated too often, but once in 30 years is pretty dang reasonable. We move at a decent enough clip that the average user is not mixing parts spaced too many years apart.
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There is a lot of room to improve ATX, it feels like a relic from the beige age. The general Idea of ATX is good, (I wouldn't want to see a free for all, with everyone making their own standard) but it needs a serious modernization. For example we should be finding a way to utilize both sides of the motherboard PCB, some small ITX boards I have seen have done that by mounting the M. 2 slot on the back. Trends change, for example RAM heat sinks and football sized CPU air coolers, they don't fit together so close. It should be updated to ATX 2. 0, however I would NOT like to see it updated too often, but once in 30 years is pretty dang reasonable. We move at a decent enough clip that the average user is not mixing parts spaced too many years apart.
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Umy
This is an exciting first step. Tesla wanted to modularise vehicles a long time ago. They now have a great template and drummed up a massive following to produce. same chasis, different tops. Asus is possibly trying to follow the model. Having been in computers a long. long time, what I'd like to see is too radical for my lifetime. Self powered and sentient computers, nanaotech realignment of circuitry based on component selection. one module quantum hdd which can be sectioned like the brain to hold RAM and recall seperate. so many ways to move forward. But it's about feasibility, practicality and baby steps.
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This is an exciting first step. Tesla wanted to modularise vehicles a long time ago. They now have a great template and drummed up a massive following to produce. same chasis, different tops. Asus is possibly trying to follow the model. Having been in computers a long. long time, what I'd like to see is too radical for my lifetime. Self powered and sentient computers, nanaotech realignment of circuitry based on component selection. one module quantum hdd which can be sectioned like the brain to hold RAM and recall seperate. so many ways to move forward. But it's about feasibility, practicality and baby steps.
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Britt
I love that ASUS is putting their money where their mouth is and inciting change. While this is a cool first gen of a new board, I'm more excited about the path it's creating for others to follow. Definitely here for ASUS to begin talking to chassis companies and excited to see if NVIDIA could give any input on GPU placement. Modular I. O is a game changer and honestly will help the wallets of many people. The more this catches on, the cheaper it gets people! Let's do this!
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I love that ASUS is putting their money where their mouth is and inciting change. While this is a cool first gen of a new board, I'm more excited about the path it's creating for others to follow. Definitely here for ASUS to begin talking to chassis companies and excited to see if NVIDIA could give any input on GPU placement. Modular I. O is a game changer and honestly will help the wallets of many people. The more this catches on, the cheaper it gets people! Let's do this!
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Seyit
Where do I put the optical drive? Where is the hdd cage for my archive? Why does it have 3 fans on top blowing to nothing? Why do I need a huge screen on my motherboard again? Why didn't they show the actual cpu and ram slots? Caging rams in a plastic box without air flow doesn't sound promising and I'm not convinced that we need water cooled VRMs. If VRM cooling is a real problem why don't motherboard producers use real heatsinks as before?
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Where do I put the optical drive? Where is the hdd cage for my archive? Why does it have 3 fans on top blowing to nothing? Why do I need a huge screen on my motherboard again? Why didn't they show the actual cpu and ram slots? Caging rams in a plastic box without air flow doesn't sound promising and I'm not convinced that we need water cooled VRMs. If VRM cooling is a real problem why don't motherboard producers use real heatsinks as before?
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SamoJa
I don't like how this looks but it would be very nice to have 8pin cpu, 24pin motherboard connector, usb, power, reset and led plugs in the back of the board, those cables are ugly and useless to see. GPU is something we love to see in our cases. Cases has to have airflow chamber design where heat from radiators doesn't go in the chamber for motherboard, gpu etc.
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I don't like how this looks but it would be very nice to have 8pin cpu, 24pin motherboard connector, usb, power, reset and led plugs in the back of the board, those cables are ugly and useless to see. GPU is something we love to see in our cases. Cases has to have airflow chamber design where heat from radiators doesn't go in the chamber for motherboard, gpu etc.
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moco
I really like the idea of a modular I/O, also putting the power connection and the GPU on the back seem like a good idea too. I personally don't like the aesthetic of the plastic though, and could do without the OLED screen to keep prices down, but it's not bad for a prototype and a step in the right direction if you ask me. especially the I/O
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I really like the idea of a modular I/O, also putting the power connection and the GPU on the back seem like a good idea too. I personally don't like the aesthetic of the plastic though, and could do without the OLED screen to keep prices down, but it's not bad for a prototype and a step in the right direction if you ask me. especially the I/O
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TrustedCoins. com
Riotoro CR1080 is an ATX case that is compact and is inverted mobo design with graphics card towards the top and cpu towards bottom and has great airflow. My favorite ATX case and I ain't giving it up. I think the way for ATX to go is for all of them to do reverse motherboard design for better airflow.
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Riotoro CR1080 is an ATX case that is compact and is inverted mobo design with graphics card towards the top and cpu towards bottom and has great airflow. My favorite ATX case and I ain't giving it up. I think the way for ATX to go is for all of them to do reverse motherboard design for better airflow.
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Two
While this build looks awesome and there are some great ideas here. Asus can't do this, we can't let them do this. If something isn't designed by everyone or most everyone all at once the space will fragment until someone wins market share. That would be awful for enthusiasts
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While this build looks awesome and there are some great ideas here. Asus can't do this, we can't let them do this. If something isn't designed by everyone or most everyone all at once the space will fragment until someone wins market share. That would be awful for enthusiasts
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