Use Google Voice for Privacy? - Rob Braxman Tech
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Date: 2022-03-20
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Sasha
I'm not sure I understand the strategy you are recommending or exactly what you are expecting to accomplish, rob. You talk about hiding your identity yet you talk about giving actual device phone numbers to google voice. Although you can use an unegistered prepaid phone bought with cash the carrier and it's affiliates will be able to identify the user because they have access to it's location via GPS and triangulation relative to wifi hotspots even if location tracking and wifi is disabled. Even if you never use the phone at home they can still identify you using facial recognition data etc when you are out in public. Not only that but they can locate your home by using the accelerometers and gyroscopes to track where the phone is even when it is turned off or the battery is removed because the baseband computer is always running (on a second non-removeable internal battery and can even be powered by airwaves like a crystal radio. BTW google voice records all calls for analysis by Ai to somehow improve google's speech recognition (or at least it still did last I heard about it. That data is reportedly anonymized but anonymized data can easily be deanonymized using data in databanks obtained through data harvesting. You might be able to hide from a certain Ai at this time but not all Ai's and certainly not forever. All the data is recorded and can later be linked to an identity someday after the Ai improves in it's ability to identify users. You might be able to hide phone numbers and identities from some people you interact with but not big tech or gov. Their all seeing eye has become impossible to hide from.
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I'm not sure I understand the strategy you are recommending or exactly what you are expecting to accomplish, rob. You talk about hiding your identity yet you talk about giving actual device phone numbers to google voice. Although you can use an unegistered prepaid phone bought with cash the carrier and it's affiliates will be able to identify the user because they have access to it's location via GPS and triangulation relative to wifi hotspots even if location tracking and wifi is disabled. Even if you never use the phone at home they can still identify you using facial recognition data etc when you are out in public. Not only that but they can locate your home by using the accelerometers and gyroscopes to track where the phone is even when it is turned off or the battery is removed because the baseband computer is always running (on a second non-removeable internal battery and can even be powered by airwaves like a crystal radio. BTW google voice records all calls for analysis by Ai to somehow improve google's speech recognition (or at least it still did last I heard about it. That data is reportedly anonymized but anonymized data can easily be deanonymized using data in databanks obtained through data harvesting. You might be able to hide from a certain Ai at this time but not all Ai's and certainly not forever. All the data is recorded and can later be linked to an identity someday after the Ai improves in it's ability to identify users. You might be able to hide phone numbers and identities from some people you interact with but not big tech or gov. Their all seeing eye has become impossible to hide from.
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Mantikal
This is a nice idea. I hope that it works for others. However, I'd like to make others aware of a couple -out-of-the-blue- odd problems they may experience caused by linking their phone number to google voice:
1. When calling cab companies for service, most of them tell you that they're not sending anyone because your phone number isn't showing up on their system - and it looks shady.
2. If you get a brand new (or replacement) credit card or debit card and you call to both get it activated and assign a PIN number to it, you will encounter an odd message that goes a little something like this -We're sorry we are unable to process your request at this time. Please contact your financial institution about this- What the automated service here isn't telling you is that it's reading a completely different phone number (of where you're calling from) than what the bank has on file and is denying you access to move forward.
There maybe a whole host of other services that you regularly use that have automation in place to confirm your phone number and compare it to what they have on file (as you dial) that you'll run into problems with by linking google voice to your regular phone number.
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This is a nice idea. I hope that it works for others. However, I'd like to make others aware of a couple -out-of-the-blue- odd problems they may experience caused by linking their phone number to google voice:
1. When calling cab companies for service, most of them tell you that they're not sending anyone because your phone number isn't showing up on their system - and it looks shady.
2. If you get a brand new (or replacement) credit card or debit card and you call to both get it activated and assign a PIN number to it, you will encounter an odd message that goes a little something like this -We're sorry we are unable to process your request at this time. Please contact your financial institution about this- What the automated service here isn't telling you is that it's reading a completely different phone number (of where you're calling from) than what the bank has on file and is denying you access to move forward.
There maybe a whole host of other services that you regularly use that have automation in place to confirm your phone number and compare it to what they have on file (as you dial) that you'll run into problems with by linking google voice to your regular phone number.
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itech
PLEASE HELP: Hello. I have a Samsung Galaxy J3. Few years ago I installed Google Voice using my old Gmail account and able to make/receive calls and send/receive text/messages. For a few years everything worked like a charm, never had any problems. I recently reset the phone back to it's factory setting and started out as new. I then used my new Gmail account and installed Google voice. I am able to send/receive text/messages but unable to make/receive calls. When I dialed a number, I get -Not registered on network- message with an -OK- button. But I am able to make/receive calls with my new gmail account and google voice using my laptop. It seems like this problem only happens on an android phone. Both my old and new Gmail accounts and their corresponding Google voice numbers were created on a laptop. Both have linked numbers. After installing google voice using the new gmail account, it asked for the linked number and I provided it. It gave me a message saying that the linked number was succesfully added. As far as I can remember, I followed the same steps as with my old gmail account. Why is it not working with my new gmail account? Thanks.
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PLEASE HELP: Hello. I have a Samsung Galaxy J3. Few years ago I installed Google Voice using my old Gmail account and able to make/receive calls and send/receive text/messages. For a few years everything worked like a charm, never had any problems. I recently reset the phone back to it's factory setting and started out as new. I then used my new Gmail account and installed Google voice. I am able to send/receive text/messages but unable to make/receive calls. When I dialed a number, I get -Not registered on network- message with an -OK- button. But I am able to make/receive calls with my new gmail account and google voice using my laptop. It seems like this problem only happens on an android phone. Both my old and new Gmail accounts and their corresponding Google voice numbers were created on a laptop. Both have linked numbers. After installing google voice using the new gmail account, it asked for the linked number and I provided it. It gave me a message saying that the linked number was succesfully added. As far as I can remember, I followed the same steps as with my old gmail account. Why is it not working with my new gmail account? Thanks.
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HTTech2020
When you order SIM cards on Ting. com, you still need to provide your name, shipping address, and credit card tied to your identity. If you use the phone number activated from Ting to sign up for a Google Voice or Gmail, that Ting number can be traced back to your real identity. Even if you remove that temporary number, Google might still have a record on it. If someone wants to know the real identity of the newly created Google Voice number, they can subpoena Google and get all the current and past Ting numbers associated to this Google account. They can do a reverse lookup on the Ting number and your real identity is exposed. How do you exactly set it up such that it is 100% untraceable?
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When you order SIM cards on Ting. com, you still need to provide your name, shipping address, and credit card tied to your identity. If you use the phone number activated from Ting to sign up for a Google Voice or Gmail, that Ting number can be traced back to your real identity. Even if you remove that temporary number, Google might still have a record on it. If someone wants to know the real identity of the newly created Google Voice number, they can subpoena Google and get all the current and past Ting numbers associated to this Google account. They can do a reverse lookup on the Ting number and your real identity is exposed. How do you exactly set it up such that it is 100% untraceable?
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LoudCitizen
ROB, BIG question: I want to ditch my old phone number I-ve had for years and buy a prepaid SIM card with a new number.
Then port it to a de-Googled phone.
This will disappear me from many databases and relationship maps before I ALSO switch to Google Voice and disposable SIMS.
Can you give me advice or warnings? Before I switch my phone and phone number, I-ll also be ready with VPN, blocked IPs and all other fingerprints erased.
Thank you, you-re my hero.
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ROB, BIG question: I want to ditch my old phone number I-ve had for years and buy a prepaid SIM card with a new number.
Then port it to a de-Googled phone.
This will disappear me from many databases and relationship maps before I ALSO switch to Google Voice and disposable SIMS.
Can you give me advice or warnings? Before I switch my phone and phone number, I-ll also be ready with VPN, blocked IPs and all other fingerprints erased.
Thank you, you-re my hero.
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Bob
Google voice integrates with your mobile and forwards voice and text messages to your regular number therefore, someone can text you an image that has a hidden spyware script that automatically downloads onto your phone as one can not stop images from downloading via text messaging. Now your phone has been hacked and a perpetrator has full access of your entire phones operations as if they were holding it in their own hand and unlocked.
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Google voice integrates with your mobile and forwards voice and text messages to your regular number therefore, someone can text you an image that has a hidden spyware script that automatically downloads onto your phone as one can not stop images from downloading via text messaging. Now your phone has been hacked and a perpetrator has full access of your entire phones operations as if they were holding it in their own hand and unlocked.
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Bart
So to clarify, the de-googled phone that you take with you out of the house is using the Ting SIM cards correct? This is what allows you to keep your real identity private because you can change your number at any time and nothing breaks because everything you need a phone number for is using your Google voice # which is not associated to your actual identity, correct?
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So to clarify, the de-googled phone that you take with you out of the house is using the Ting SIM cards correct? This is what allows you to keep your real identity private because you can change your number at any time and nothing breaks because everything you need a phone number for is using your Google voice # which is not associated to your actual identity, correct?
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silvercat151
However, on the other end of this, I don-t answer calls with no phone number, or with a number I don-t recognize, as there are so many spammers and scammers out there. If it-s important they-ll leave a message. If they don-t leave a message, I block them after an hour or two, which gives them time to call back and leave a message if it-s urgent.
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However, on the other end of this, I don-t answer calls with no phone number, or with a number I don-t recognize, as there are so many spammers and scammers out there. If it-s important they-ll leave a message. If they don-t leave a message, I block them after an hour or two, which gives them time to call back and leave a message if it-s urgent.
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John
Google voice sux for privacy, Signal private messenger is the app to use, For mail, don-t use gmail, use ProtonMail. I don-t know why this jerk is telling his viewers to use Gmail voice and mail services, obviously he either works for them or has some other relation with them.
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Google voice sux for privacy, Signal private messenger is the app to use, For mail, don-t use gmail, use ProtonMail. I don-t know why this jerk is telling his viewers to use Gmail voice and mail services, obviously he either works for them or has some other relation with them.
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YadraVoat
Could we create a one-time pad for randomly assigning phone numbers among a large pool of people on a daily basis or something? I suppose that would expose us to the risk of guilt-by-association when we get assigned the phone number of an actual criminal. -
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Could we create a one-time pad for randomly assigning phone numbers among a large pool of people on a daily basis or something? I suppose that would expose us to the risk of guilt-by-association when we get assigned the phone number of an actual criminal. -
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