MSI Trades Security for RGB
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Date: 2026-07-10
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peterjansen4826
I am not 100% sure what that pipe is in this MSI-context but for the novices, in general a pipe is a system from an operating system which passes through the output from one program to another and then that 2nd program uses that as its input. UNIX had it, Linux has it and Windows also has got it. A very simple example which everybody can follow: imagine you have a list of names in a file named names.txt and you want to sort it and write that in the file sortednames.txt, then you could open a terminal and type something like cat names.txt | sort > sortednames.txt
cat sends the contents of this file to the standardout of your terminal, | pipes this output to the sort program, the sort-program then gives the sorted names as its standardout and finally the > writes this to a file. That is the power of piping, it is why people love using it in the terminal. On a sidenote, this particular example could be done easier: sort names.txt > sortednames.txt but in that case I wouldn't show the pipe at work so that would defeat the purpose. The > is called a file redirection operator, there are multiple ones, among other < > and >>, which are the most used ones. < to send something to standardin, the > to send something to a file and overwrite that file, the >> to append it to the end of the file.
A common useful application of piping which many people have used: pacman -Qme | wc -l
This lists all the packages which I explicitely installed (so not co-installed as dependencies) and pipes it to a program which with the -l flag counts the number of lines. Or you count how many files and directories (less is better) you have in your home-directory or in the case of Windows c:\Users\Steve-directory : ls | wc -l.
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I am not 100% sure what that pipe is in this MSI-context but for the novices, in general a pipe is a system from an operating system which passes through the output from one program to another and then that 2nd program uses that as its input. UNIX had it, Linux has it and Windows also has got it. A very simple example which everybody can follow: imagine you have a list of names in a file named names.txt and you want to sort it and write that in the file sortednames.txt, then you could open a terminal and type something like cat names.txt | sort > sortednames.txt
cat sends the contents of this file to the standardout of your terminal, | pipes this output to the sort program, the sort-program then gives the sorted names as its standardout and finally the > writes this to a file. That is the power of piping, it is why people love using it in the terminal. On a sidenote, this particular example could be done easier: sort names.txt > sortednames.txt but in that case I wouldn't show the pipe at work so that would defeat the purpose. The > is called a file redirection operator, there are multiple ones, among other < > and >>, which are the most used ones. < to send something to standardin, the > to send something to a file and overwrite that file, the >> to append it to the end of the file.
A common useful application of piping which many people have used: pacman -Qme | wc -l
This lists all the packages which I explicitely installed (so not co-installed as dependencies) and pipes it to a program which with the -l flag counts the number of lines. Or you count how many files and directories (less is better) you have in your home-directory or in the case of Windows c:\Users\Steve-directory : ls | wc -l.
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BiglyRedScare
I have a question...I was trying very hard to grasp the full scale of the chips & science act. While it's stated goal was to build fabrication for semiconductors it does look like as a consequence it incentivized them.
Planned government acquisitions of $100 million or more in fiscal years 20262029 that may involve data centers as part of efforts to strengthen domestic semiconductor supply chains.
Given all that(& I know you're wondering where the question is) are we to believe that Biden or any recent president(even Obama) could ever be considered literate enough in the field to be capable of seeing the future consequences of data centers coming Would it even have been possible for anybody to given that the chips & science act didn't include any direct endorsement of data center construction Literacy in computer technology is not normally something we consider for public officials. It wouldn't seem a reasonable thing to require since it does take genuine passion for computer to even get the most vague of understanding.
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I have a question...I was trying very hard to grasp the full scale of the chips & science act. While it's stated goal was to build fabrication for semiconductors it does look like as a consequence it incentivized them.
Planned government acquisitions of $100 million or more in fiscal years 20262029 that may involve data centers as part of efforts to strengthen domestic semiconductor supply chains.
Given all that(& I know you're wondering where the question is) are we to believe that Biden or any recent president(even Obama) could ever be considered literate enough in the field to be capable of seeing the future consequences of data centers coming Would it even have been possible for anybody to given that the chips & science act didn't include any direct endorsement of data center construction Literacy in computer technology is not normally something we consider for public officials. It wouldn't seem a reasonable thing to require since it does take genuine passion for computer to even get the most vague of understanding.
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setdark
i don;t want to sound nerdy but if i was a security op at a big worldwide corporation and we had a mailbox for security reports from the broad public - i would have made the default response to any incoming email as box is full or some other perfectly normal error. And still get and register the message, of course.
Because such an email is an obvious target for any hacker from basement spammer to hi-end hacker group that is interested in me never getting the reports so keeping my inbox full at all times. So they should not have any automatable way to discover if the mailbox actually operates and recieves messages or not.
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i don;t want to sound nerdy but if i was a security op at a big worldwide corporation and we had a mailbox for security reports from the broad public - i would have made the default response to any incoming email as box is full or some other perfectly normal error. And still get and register the message, of course.
Because such an email is an obvious target for any hacker from basement spammer to hi-end hacker group that is interested in me never getting the reports so keeping my inbox full at all times. So they should not have any automatable way to discover if the mailbox actually operates and recieves messages or not.
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not-normal771
What's creepy is that it seems like every time I would try to adjust my RGB through MSI, it always had a ton of downloads it needs to do before it'll start. That seemed very suspicious to me. How much is RGB software really changing month to month I suspected that it was harvesting as much data from my PC as it could whenever I gave it the opportunity. I eventually switched to Linux only and use an open source tool to easily adjust my RGBs. MSI should not be trusted. I only want the RGP APP! Why can't I adjust the colors in my bios I learned all this the hard way and will NEVER buy another MSI product.
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What's creepy is that it seems like every time I would try to adjust my RGB through MSI, it always had a ton of downloads it needs to do before it'll start. That seemed very suspicious to me. How much is RGB software really changing month to month I suspected that it was harvesting as much data from my PC as it could whenever I gave it the opportunity. I eventually switched to Linux only and use an open source tool to easily adjust my RGBs. MSI should not be trusted. I only want the RGP APP! Why can't I adjust the colors in my bios I learned all this the hard way and will NEVER buy another MSI product.
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makimoke
MSI's software BS is what cost me my laptop (alongside the hinge problems, but that's a whole another thing).
For some reason, to control FANS, you need to use a windows-only application instead of letting you control them through BIOS. Meaning that on Linux, fans can't be controlled in any way, so they don't spin, and thus your laptop becomes a nice improvised BBQ. And if your laptop isn't on msi-ec/can't run msi-ec (Bazzite couldn't for example at the time I tried it), same thing happens.
I will not purchase any MSI laptops as long as they don't fix their cruddy behavior and software. Screw them.
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MSI's software BS is what cost me my laptop (alongside the hinge problems, but that's a whole another thing).
For some reason, to control FANS, you need to use a windows-only application instead of letting you control them through BIOS. Meaning that on Linux, fans can't be controlled in any way, so they don't spin, and thus your laptop becomes a nice improvised BBQ. And if your laptop isn't on msi-ec/can't run msi-ec (Bazzite couldn't for example at the time I tried it), same thing happens.
I will not purchase any MSI laptops as long as they don't fix their cruddy behavior and software. Screw them.
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actuallytheowner
I no longer can make the joke I am 1% of a 1% due to how popular Linux is getting, and therefore Gentoo, but what I will say as someone who prefers a secure OS, the more software you download will lead to more surface area, this is why I don't use systemd. These MSI software vulnerabilities are not a windows issue, they are a proprietary software issue. For those who don't wish to follow my footsteps with native optimizations and no systemd or windows, please conciser not downloading software for peripherals if they have basic functions outside of how lights work.
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I no longer can make the joke I am 1% of a 1% due to how popular Linux is getting, and therefore Gentoo, but what I will say as someone who prefers a secure OS, the more software you download will lead to more surface area, this is why I don't use systemd. These MSI software vulnerabilities are not a windows issue, they are a proprietary software issue. For those who don't wish to follow my footsteps with native optimizations and no systemd or windows, please conciser not downloading software for peripherals if they have basic functions outside of how lights work.
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Col_Panic
Yeah i never use any propriatary software if I can avoid it. My folks gave me theit old laptops because they couldnt run Win11, they were both Dells that were like 5 years old, and boy howdy were they chalked full of malware! Almoat all of which came in through the Dell bloatware, and HP printer drivers, aka bloatware that they both just stopped supporting years ago, but allowed to be exposed to the internet anyway. Even running Windows 10, they were like 5x faster once all of that crap was removed, but they are running Ubuntu, now. I wish they would listen to me, lol.
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Yeah i never use any propriatary software if I can avoid it. My folks gave me theit old laptops because they couldnt run Win11, they were both Dells that were like 5 years old, and boy howdy were they chalked full of malware! Almoat all of which came in through the Dell bloatware, and HP printer drivers, aka bloatware that they both just stopped supporting years ago, but allowed to be exposed to the internet anyway. Even running Windows 10, they were like 5x faster once all of that crap was removed, but they are running Ubuntu, now. I wish they would listen to me, lol.
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homermorisson9135
Since Steve specifically (and correctly) mentioned using offline-only PW Managers, here's the one I can wholeheartedly personally recommend: KeePass XC!
Why:
1. It's Open Source
2. It's offline-only completely ... the only possible connections, if you opt-in, are a Check-For-Update on Startup and a Browser Plugin to provide an encrypted link to the DB for auto-filling in login forms so keyloggers couldn't track that either
3. It's Open Source
4. It's also completely free of charge and gets regular updates
5. It's friggin Open Source!
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Since Steve specifically (and correctly) mentioned using offline-only PW Managers, here's the one I can wholeheartedly personally recommend: KeePass XC!
Why:
1. It's Open Source
2. It's offline-only completely ... the only possible connections, if you opt-in, are a Check-For-Update on Startup and a Browser Plugin to provide an encrypted link to the DB for auto-filling in login forms so keyloggers couldn't track that either
3. It's Open Source
4. It's also completely free of charge and gets regular updates
5. It's friggin Open Source!
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HenryBishop117
As someone who has built a ton of computers with different board manufacturers, I really want to know why their control softwares are also so terrible and sluggish, between Asus AC genuinely crashing my computer if I install it, MSI Center super slow and terrible fan controls, GGC just not even opening half the time. Why are they just so bad How are we supposed to control our computers without having to install 3rd party kernal level software that just adds more vulnerabilities
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As someone who has built a ton of computers with different board manufacturers, I really want to know why their control softwares are also so terrible and sluggish, between Asus AC genuinely crashing my computer if I install it, MSI Center super slow and terrible fan controls, GGC just not even opening half the time. Why are they just so bad How are we supposed to control our computers without having to install 3rd party kernal level software that just adds more vulnerabilities
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anthonyburning8603
I had an msi motherboard before, with a FX8320, it was crashing non stop, after months of conversation with customer support they told me it's my power supply which was faulty, i had doubt but just in case i changed it ... same issues afterward , so they told me it's my cpu who's faulty now, so i bought a 8350x, and guess what exact same issue
after nearly 500 wasted for nothing i promised myself to NEVER buy an MSI product ever again
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I had an msi motherboard before, with a FX8320, it was crashing non stop, after months of conversation with customer support they told me it's my power supply which was faulty, i had doubt but just in case i changed it ... same issues afterward , so they told me it's my cpu who's faulty now, so i bought a 8350x, and guess what exact same issue
after nearly 500 wasted for nothing i promised myself to NEVER buy an MSI product ever again
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turborennschnecke
GamersNexus this was such a short amazing video with so many important information about so many processes! Past 3 Months we had to patch so many servers and softwares and also just by looking on apps on my iphone and how often patches are rolling out - we are living in a world where we should care about cyber security now more then ever before!
Thank you for sharing! Mr Bruh just added to my all time fav list from now on!
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GamersNexus this was such a short amazing video with so many important information about so many processes! Past 3 Months we had to patch so many servers and softwares and also just by looking on apps on my iphone and how often patches are rolling out - we are living in a world where we should care about cyber security now more then ever before!
Thank you for sharing! Mr Bruh just added to my all time fav list from now on!
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Noatzon
I've noticed in a few recent videos now that you ttend do to some kind of highlight reel at the start using footage from the rest of the video. While I understand the intent behind doing that it's actually pretty jarring when watching the whole video. Especially since you don't clearly point out you're doing it. So you get a weird deja vu when the exact same footage repreats itself later.
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I've noticed in a few recent videos now that you ttend do to some kind of highlight reel at the start using footage from the rest of the video. While I understand the intent behind doing that it's actually pretty jarring when watching the whole video. Especially since you don't clearly point out you're doing it. So you get a weird deja vu when the exact same footage repreats itself later.
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smokyschanel6598
I'm glad to hear you confirm what I'd thought about choice of password managers, which is that for security purposes there's no reason not to just use something local, such as Edge's password system where you just right-click into the field and Suggest Password and it's stored locally. So why pay for Nordlocker or whatever that releases credentials into some online system.
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I'm glad to hear you confirm what I'd thought about choice of password managers, which is that for security purposes there's no reason not to just use something local, such as Edge's password system where you just right-click into the field and Suggest Password and it's stored locally. So why pay for Nordlocker or whatever that releases credentials into some online system.
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cilliersprins3085
It would be amazing to see a roundup review on modern controllers. There are so many new players now!
I know nostalgia isn't what it used to be, but I miss the golden era (2010 -2016) of Gamers Nexus when you were hardcore build guides and intensive scientific testing. The new investigative consumer advocacy era content is not really why I come here.
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It would be amazing to see a roundup review on modern controllers. There are so many new players now!
I know nostalgia isn't what it used to be, but I miss the golden era (2010 -2016) of Gamers Nexus when you were hardcore build guides and intensive scientific testing. The new investigative consumer advocacy era content is not really why I come here.
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MrLehi99
I had a gaming X trio 1080 Ti that I had installed Mystic Light to control the RGB on. After several months of wondering why I was having low but unstable idle CPU usage, I found that Mystic Light was throwing literally thousands of WMI errors daily. I nuked it and lived with the rainbow stripe for a few years before getting my new build last spring.
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I had a gaming X trio 1080 Ti that I had installed Mystic Light to control the RGB on. After several months of wondering why I was having low but unstable idle CPU usage, I found that Mystic Light was throwing literally thousands of WMI errors daily. I nuked it and lived with the rainbow stripe for a few years before getting my new build last spring.
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KrisH_NeRdman
13:50 BtW Thanks Mr Bruh, GN team and Steve for showing interesting in this field and letting users aware of such attack factors, vulnerabilities and stuffs. Not at all fun stuff like other things you guys cover but with all of recent cyber attacks that's are going on, keeping viewers updated/informed and awareness is much appreciated.
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13:50 BtW Thanks Mr Bruh, GN team and Steve for showing interesting in this field and letting users aware of such attack factors, vulnerabilities and stuffs. Not at all fun stuff like other things you guys cover but with all of recent cyber attacks that's are going on, keeping viewers updated/informed and awareness is much appreciated.
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Oktokolo
I wished this information would actually enable me to vote with my wallet.
But we live in a world where the Pareto Principle has become the new god. Everyone is only doing 20% the work to get 80% of the product or service done. Driven by eternal insatiable greed corrupting all layers of society, botchery became the norm.
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I wished this information would actually enable me to vote with my wallet.
But we live in a world where the Pareto Principle has become the new god. Everyone is only doing 20% the work to get 80% of the product or service done. Driven by eternal insatiable greed corrupting all layers of society, botchery became the norm.
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gamersnexus
RGB has never been a good thing for your pc, and it's not good on your memory either, despite what you all may have thought. I always knew this, but you guys were so into your dumb rainbows you wouldn't listen. What's important is it's efficiency, how well your pc works, not pretty. You had to learn the hard way.
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RGB has never been a good thing for your pc, and it's not good on your memory either, despite what you all may have thought. I always knew this, but you guys were so into your dumb rainbows you wouldn't listen. What's important is it's efficiency, how well your pc works, not pretty. You had to learn the hard way.
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TEA_1773
I can't even update mine since it requires to use the microslop app store which my laptop is offline and I don't move it since the hinge broke a few years ago right after the warranty expired and my inet in alaska Hella expensive and I get any of my drivers and updates thru a phone. LoL fml!
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I can't even update mine since it requires to use the microslop app store which my laptop is offline and I don't move it since the hinge broke a few years ago right after the warranty expired and my inet in alaska Hella expensive and I get any of my drivers and updates thru a phone. LoL fml!
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suminshizzles6951
Yet another reason to leave windows behind and use linux. I moved to linux 18 months ago. Best thing i ever did in 35 years of computing. Thank Microslop for pushing me to linux when you made your own OS such a PITA to deal with that the alternative was better than staying with you.
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Yet another reason to leave windows behind and use linux. I moved to linux 18 months ago. Best thing i ever did in 35 years of computing. Thank Microslop for pushing me to linux when you made your own OS such a PITA to deal with that the alternative was better than staying with you.
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