Best CPUs of 2024 (Intel vs. AMD): Gaming, Production, Budget, & Efficiency
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Date: 2024-11-16
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carlkidd752
For your case reviews: will an Arctic LF 2/3 fit in the roof Length of radiators is not an issue, but with VRMs becoming more massive, the clearance is suspect. 5 builds using corsairs carbide air 540, Fractal North and King 95 all have roof mounting clearance issues. While the North is elegant, just that bit too small. Likewise, the King 95 has amazing build quality, but I was forced to side mount my LF3. Maybe it's my fan set up, but no noise and great cooling. 2x120 floor mounted, 1 rear exhaust, 1 left side top exhaust and 280 LF3 side mounted. I place more emphasis on looks than you do as my PC sits where I can (must) look at it. In a crowded price point, how a product looks assumes greater importance, especially when build quality and thermals are reasonably close.
You made the dice sets 60 years too late. My former board gaming friends are either dead or live hundreds of miles away. I did pick up a solder mat and plan to finish several WWII dioramas (a few of the models are older than you are lol). Many of my new PC gaming friends have X3D CPUs on their wish list. For 510-530 I easily recommend the PowerColor HellHound GRE, but suggest waiting to see what AMD will offer next year in a similar price point. Instead of trying to enable RT, buy a 4K TV if pretty is at the top of your want list. Mine is the Hisense 55U8G.
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For your case reviews: will an Arctic LF 2/3 fit in the roof Length of radiators is not an issue, but with VRMs becoming more massive, the clearance is suspect. 5 builds using corsairs carbide air 540, Fractal North and King 95 all have roof mounting clearance issues. While the North is elegant, just that bit too small. Likewise, the King 95 has amazing build quality, but I was forced to side mount my LF3. Maybe it's my fan set up, but no noise and great cooling. 2x120 floor mounted, 1 rear exhaust, 1 left side top exhaust and 280 LF3 side mounted. I place more emphasis on looks than you do as my PC sits where I can (must) look at it. In a crowded price point, how a product looks assumes greater importance, especially when build quality and thermals are reasonably close.
You made the dice sets 60 years too late. My former board gaming friends are either dead or live hundreds of miles away. I did pick up a solder mat and plan to finish several WWII dioramas (a few of the models are older than you are lol). Many of my new PC gaming friends have X3D CPUs on their wish list. For 510-530 I easily recommend the PowerColor HellHound GRE, but suggest waiting to see what AMD will offer next year in a similar price point. Instead of trying to enable RT, buy a 4K TV if pretty is at the top of your want list. Mine is the Hisense 55U8G.
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Demonoid1990
Intels Ultra series may need a revisit if they can get some fixes/patches out for it by the end of the year. Hopefully they can get it at least on par with 14th gen by then in gsming. It could be a good option for a hybrid gaming/productivity setup especially at higher resolutions where your more GPU bottlenecked either way.
I'm still somewhat undecided, waiting on the 9950X3D to release next year. See how it compares to the 285k then for 4k gaming, and productivity.
If your doing anymore CPU coolers down the road, you may check out the PCCooler RZ820. I have it set aside for my build next year. It's got me leaning just slightly towards Intel as its contact plate is optimized for socket LGA 1700 and 1851. As far as aesthetics and pricing it would compete closely with the Deepcool Assassin IV, if it they weren't sanctioned here in the US.. at 1.8 KG it's about as large as a tower cooler can go, while still fitting in the case and not obstructing PCIE slots.. (It has a disclaimer about compatibility with certain MATX motherboards)
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Intels Ultra series may need a revisit if they can get some fixes/patches out for it by the end of the year. Hopefully they can get it at least on par with 14th gen by then in gsming. It could be a good option for a hybrid gaming/productivity setup especially at higher resolutions where your more GPU bottlenecked either way.
I'm still somewhat undecided, waiting on the 9950X3D to release next year. See how it compares to the 285k then for 4k gaming, and productivity.
If your doing anymore CPU coolers down the road, you may check out the PCCooler RZ820. I have it set aside for my build next year. It's got me leaning just slightly towards Intel as its contact plate is optimized for socket LGA 1700 and 1851. As far as aesthetics and pricing it would compete closely with the Deepcool Assassin IV, if it they weren't sanctioned here in the US.. at 1.8 KG it's about as large as a tower cooler can go, while still fitting in the case and not obstructing PCIE slots.. (It has a disclaimer about compatibility with certain MATX motherboards)
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RN1441
I'm amazed that we're in this situation now. We're kinda back to where we were just prior to the launch of Zen 1, but with the roles reversed. Back in 2016 / early 2017 Intel ran the table, but Zen 1 was able to offer 'okay' gaming performance but a gigantic lead on productivity, especially when cost was considered. Up until the 5800X3D launched intel could at least claim the gaming crown, but since then the number of titles where Intel can lead at all has dwindled and by margins that are small. Meanwhile, even with 150% of the cores (24 vs 16) Intel is not exactly miles ahead on productivity and even where they're winning they now have this horrible caveat of 'if your retail cpu is stable at default settings'. Not many users that need that productivity are going to be cool with an instability lottery or the risk of long term damage at stock settings. Welcome to your bulldozer generation, Intel. I hope you pull out of it.
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I'm amazed that we're in this situation now. We're kinda back to where we were just prior to the launch of Zen 1, but with the roles reversed. Back in 2016 / early 2017 Intel ran the table, but Zen 1 was able to offer 'okay' gaming performance but a gigantic lead on productivity, especially when cost was considered. Up until the 5800X3D launched intel could at least claim the gaming crown, but since then the number of titles where Intel can lead at all has dwindled and by margins that are small. Meanwhile, even with 150% of the cores (24 vs 16) Intel is not exactly miles ahead on productivity and even where they're winning they now have this horrible caveat of 'if your retail cpu is stable at default settings'. Not many users that need that productivity are going to be cool with an instability lottery or the risk of long term damage at stock settings. Welcome to your bulldozer generation, Intel. I hope you pull out of it.
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krissythecatboi
The Intel Core Ultra 9 285K has:
- 2nd place in the Blender benchmark
- 1st place in the 7-Zip Compression benchmark
- 1st place in the Adobe Premiere benchmark
- 2nd place in the Starfield benchmark
Honestly, it feels like a really good productivity CPU and an okay gaming one, not top of the charts, but will handle whatever you throw at it decently.
I wonder if this is a case of it being priced horribly that ruins it for the consumers, I remember when Ryzen 5 4500 came out everyone was up in arms about how you had better options for 130 USD, but I picked it up for 80 EUR years later and it's been worth it.
Realistically I'm sticking with AM4 for a while longer and probably am getting a Ryzen 7 5700X to replace my current one, but I wonder how much cheaper the Core Ultra series would have to get to be worth it, at like 75% of the price they'd probably be good.
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The Intel Core Ultra 9 285K has:
- 2nd place in the Blender benchmark
- 1st place in the 7-Zip Compression benchmark
- 1st place in the Adobe Premiere benchmark
- 2nd place in the Starfield benchmark
Honestly, it feels like a really good productivity CPU and an okay gaming one, not top of the charts, but will handle whatever you throw at it decently.
I wonder if this is a case of it being priced horribly that ruins it for the consumers, I remember when Ryzen 5 4500 came out everyone was up in arms about how you had better options for 130 USD, but I picked it up for 80 EUR years later and it's been worth it.
Realistically I'm sticking with AM4 for a while longer and probably am getting a Ryzen 7 5700X to replace my current one, but I wonder how much cheaper the Core Ultra series would have to get to be worth it, at like 75% of the price they'd probably be good.
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Berkelll
It's insane how much difference 9800X3D has on 1080p and the fact it beats i5 14600kf even in cinebench and some work tasks. Damn it. I kinda regret i bought 7800X3D few months ago.
Nah i don't regret, the price was like 150$ less few months ago for 7800X3D in my country and it's still a beast especially when i use 1440p so difference is smaller between them on the flat. The price of 7800X3D now is insane and 9800X3D price is not that worth it yet here and needs few months of waiting imo.
For sure 9800X3D would work better for multi-tasking around gaming, but i think i will wait for 11800X3D now to change processor, especially when it will be still AM5.
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It's insane how much difference 9800X3D has on 1080p and the fact it beats i5 14600kf even in cinebench and some work tasks. Damn it. I kinda regret i bought 7800X3D few months ago.
Nah i don't regret, the price was like 150$ less few months ago for 7800X3D in my country and it's still a beast especially when i use 1440p so difference is smaller between them on the flat. The price of 7800X3D now is insane and 9800X3D price is not that worth it yet here and needs few months of waiting imo.
For sure 9800X3D would work better for multi-tasking around gaming, but i think i will wait for 11800X3D now to change processor, especially when it will be still AM5.
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gamersnexus
My next upgradre will be cpu ram and motherboard but ihavent deicded when iw ill do it yet because while i have ryzen 1700 since 2017 it still loads evrything in 1 second(windows, internet, games, movies/series). and also runs all games maxed 1440p 60 fps.
Mine pc is
RYZEN 7 1700
16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15
RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL
MP 600 2TB WRITE:4950MB/S READ:4250MB/S
DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
But if i decide to do it soon then the best choise from price and perfomance is a X870 motherboard with ryzen 9700x and 32GB DD5 6400MHZ. Total price is 815 eur os in my country(with cpu cooler too at 55 euros).
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My next upgradre will be cpu ram and motherboard but ihavent deicded when iw ill do it yet because while i have ryzen 1700 since 2017 it still loads evrything in 1 second(windows, internet, games, movies/series). and also runs all games maxed 1440p 60 fps.
Mine pc is
RYZEN 7 1700
16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15
RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL
MP 600 2TB WRITE:4950MB/S READ:4250MB/S
DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
But if i decide to do it soon then the best choise from price and perfomance is a X870 motherboard with ryzen 9700x and 32GB DD5 6400MHZ. Total price is 815 eur os in my country(with cpu cooler too at 55 euros).
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emanuelolay9199
I've been wanting to upgrade my 5600x and was wondering if you've got any suggestions. I've been pondering over the 5900xt or similar simply because I doubt I'll see a significant improvement on my fps switching to a 5700x3D, becuase of the higher resolution when gaming (5120x1440).
Does anyone have any thoughts on this Or had a similar situation I mostly game on my pc, but I also believe I could take advantage of core count, since I usually have 5 or 6 programs up while gaming.
I'm running an RTX 3080 and don't plan on upgrading until the full nvidia 50 series line up comes out.
Thanks to anyone who reads this!
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I've been wanting to upgrade my 5600x and was wondering if you've got any suggestions. I've been pondering over the 5900xt or similar simply because I doubt I'll see a significant improvement on my fps switching to a 5700x3D, becuase of the higher resolution when gaming (5120x1440).
Does anyone have any thoughts on this Or had a similar situation I mostly game on my pc, but I also believe I could take advantage of core count, since I usually have 5 or 6 programs up while gaming.
I'm running an RTX 3080 and don't plan on upgrading until the full nvidia 50 series line up comes out.
Thanks to anyone who reads this!
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CharlesVanNoland
I'm super curious to see if Intel can pull off some kind of Windows scheduling slash BIOS update slash microcode update slash etcetera for the 200 series that ends up putting them on top after all, or at least where the gen is less embarrassing and sad for them. I've been a lifelong underdog fan, and the underdog has been AMD for so long - until they busted out Ryzen. Now Intel is the underdog, and I can't help but root for them now. I'm also waiting for AMD to finally bust out a Ryzen situation in their GPU division. When are we getting a Ryzen GPU that gives Nvidia a run for their (graphics) money
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I'm super curious to see if Intel can pull off some kind of Windows scheduling slash BIOS update slash microcode update slash etcetera for the 200 series that ends up putting them on top after all, or at least where the gen is less embarrassing and sad for them. I've been a lifelong underdog fan, and the underdog has been AMD for so long - until they busted out Ryzen. Now Intel is the underdog, and I can't help but root for them now. I'm also waiting for AMD to finally bust out a Ryzen situation in their GPU division. When are we getting a Ryzen GPU that gives Nvidia a run for their (graphics) money
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sasskee
MMORPGs, like FF14 or WoW, are often limited in their core count usage. So clockspeed is very often a major factor here, as those games also tend to be more leaned towards the CPU than the GPU, due to high individual Character count.
Famous example for this is WoW, that ran on a single thread for many many years, causing confusion on many players when they upgraded their rig, but had less performance, due to their new CPU having more threads, but less clock speed.
I am not even sure anymore when they addressed this and added dual-core support, but i think it was added around like 2010/11.
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MMORPGs, like FF14 or WoW, are often limited in their core count usage. So clockspeed is very often a major factor here, as those games also tend to be more leaned towards the CPU than the GPU, due to high individual Character count.
Famous example for this is WoW, that ran on a single thread for many many years, causing confusion on many players when they upgraded their rig, but had less performance, due to their new CPU having more threads, but less clock speed.
I am not even sure anymore when they addressed this and added dual-core support, but i think it was added around like 2010/11.
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Joachim21100
This test is literally a cpu advertisment from Intel and AMD and only valid for FPS penis hunters. Nobody plays in 1080P expect the group mentioned before and professional gamers whom won't get their info from here. Would it hurt your interest to show that in 4K 14100K and 9800X3D has a very minimal difference between the 2 CPU Or you are simply lasy to do more test to cover these scenarios This test is nothing else but support of complete consumerism as you push users to spend more on something what brings minimal or zero andventage to them. BIG DISLIKE for the content and the chanel.
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This test is literally a cpu advertisment from Intel and AMD and only valid for FPS penis hunters. Nobody plays in 1080P expect the group mentioned before and professional gamers whom won't get their info from here. Would it hurt your interest to show that in 4K 14100K and 9800X3D has a very minimal difference between the 2 CPU Or you are simply lasy to do more test to cover these scenarios This test is nothing else but support of complete consumerism as you push users to spend more on something what brings minimal or zero andventage to them. BIG DISLIKE for the content and the chanel.
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Elkarlo77
That the AM4 Plattform is still the best Plattform for a Budget Build is remarkable: 100 USD for a decent B550 Board, 200-230 USD for a 5700X3D and 70 USD for a 3600 32GB Kit. Together with the fast Gen 4 Slot which is often the same speed a gen5 Intel Plattform offers thanks to the 4 extra PCIE lanes it is a 400 USD base, whithout exessiv heat and very suiteable for a 1000 USD Build, when you go something like a RX 7700 XT or RX 7800 XT. For every other Plattform you pay 100 USD more for a decent Board and 50USD more for a the RAM. That eats massively into the GPU Money.
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That the AM4 Plattform is still the best Plattform for a Budget Build is remarkable: 100 USD for a decent B550 Board, 200-230 USD for a 5700X3D and 70 USD for a 3600 32GB Kit. Together with the fast Gen 4 Slot which is often the same speed a gen5 Intel Plattform offers thanks to the 4 extra PCIE lanes it is a 400 USD base, whithout exessiv heat and very suiteable for a 1000 USD Build, when you go something like a RX 7700 XT or RX 7800 XT. For every other Plattform you pay 100 USD more for a decent Board and 50USD more for a the RAM. That eats massively into the GPU Money.
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ExitOnTheInside
I'm sitting on a z790 PG-iTX TB4 motherboard just in case I can build on the old platform . . . . . iTX on LGA1700 seems silly , pleased I went with 79050x3D (I game after productivity) absoloutely should've got an iTX over mATX though.
Your mention the 14900k a few times , are you now ok with the current performance I kno you mention the 13th & 14th gen failure but prior to that you thre in the 14900k a couple of times. Maybe you could do a video on the best LGA1700 CPU's.
Really test yourself & see if you can build an iTX build using the Alder Lake platform
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I'm sitting on a z790 PG-iTX TB4 motherboard just in case I can build on the old platform . . . . . iTX on LGA1700 seems silly , pleased I went with 79050x3D (I game after productivity) absoloutely should've got an iTX over mATX though.
Your mention the 14900k a few times , are you now ok with the current performance I kno you mention the 13th & 14th gen failure but prior to that you thre in the 14900k a couple of times. Maybe you could do a video on the best LGA1700 CPU's.
Really test yourself & see if you can build an iTX build using the Alder Lake platform
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zyzU400Kg
so my point is, saying a CPU is avg better than others by testing/showing games that does it better is not ideal... theres many games (the most played on steam charts) where the 9800x3d dont have more than 5% performance improvement and it consumes a lot more power.
i would love to see tests on top games.
Edit: example
if im a CoD or CS2 player only (2 top player base games) and i take this advive here to buy a best cpu i will buy the 9800x3d but i only get around 3% avg performance in this games with /- 30/40% more power consumption over the 7800x3d.
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so my point is, saying a CPU is avg better than others by testing/showing games that does it better is not ideal... theres many games (the most played on steam charts) where the 9800x3d dont have more than 5% performance improvement and it consumes a lot more power.
i would love to see tests on top games.
Edit: example
if im a CoD or CS2 player only (2 top player base games) and i take this advive here to buy a best cpu i will buy the 9800x3d but i only get around 3% avg performance in this games with /- 30/40% more power consumption over the 7800x3d.
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dabombinablemi6188
I'll be using my 5800X3D for years. For the games I play either they are GPU limited or the only ones that would benefit from an upgrade...are ones that love X3D and I only have the 7800X3D/9800X3D as upgrades.
My brother recently had a far more significant upgrade, as he's gone from an i7 3770S (with stock cooler) with 16GB DDR3 1600 to my old; 3700X, Noctua NH-12S and 32GB DDR4 3200. In Cinebench R15 the multithreaded performance gain was 310%. Definitely shouldn't bottleneck his GTX 1070. He has said outright that everything runs far better.
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I'll be using my 5800X3D for years. For the games I play either they are GPU limited or the only ones that would benefit from an upgrade...are ones that love X3D and I only have the 7800X3D/9800X3D as upgrades.
My brother recently had a far more significant upgrade, as he's gone from an i7 3770S (with stock cooler) with 16GB DDR3 1600 to my old; 3700X, Noctua NH-12S and 32GB DDR4 3200. In Cinebench R15 the multithreaded performance gain was 310%. Definitely shouldn't bottleneck his GTX 1070. He has said outright that everything runs far better.
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21hertz
It would be awesome if you could also do benchmarks for new generations of ARM CPUs for Windows, but also Apple M-series. Can't find a single real test for M4 series but Apple claims their new M4 Max is faster than 9950x but there seems to be zero independent tests and real productivity benchmarks available at this point.
Productivity tests for things like compression and encoding shows real benefits. I do miss realtime DSP benchmark tests (for audio work).
It would be awesome if you included the established DAWbench test for example.
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It would be awesome if you could also do benchmarks for new generations of ARM CPUs for Windows, but also Apple M-series. Can't find a single real test for M4 series but Apple claims their new M4 Max is faster than 9950x but there seems to be zero independent tests and real productivity benchmarks available at this point.
Productivity tests for things like compression and encoding shows real benefits. I do miss realtime DSP benchmark tests (for audio work).
It would be awesome if you included the established DAWbench test for example.
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Hezzadude12
Out of curiosity, why not the 7950X3D for most balanced CPU
It is slightly less power hungry than a 7950X and gets most of the productivity performance while having better gaming performance when you use game bar to set remember this as a game and reboot to have core parking work properly.
That is a bit of a setup, and I know there can be tinkering involved, but my point is more was there a specific reason for the 7950X over the 7950X3D Or was that tinkering the specific reason Great video as always though GN team!
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Out of curiosity, why not the 7950X3D for most balanced CPU
It is slightly less power hungry than a 7950X and gets most of the productivity performance while having better gaming performance when you use game bar to set remember this as a game and reboot to have core parking work properly.
That is a bit of a setup, and I know there can be tinkering involved, but my point is more was there a specific reason for the 7950X over the 7950X3D Or was that tinkering the specific reason Great video as always though GN team!
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szybkacebula3167
Hey Steve, I'm new here. Do you maybe have resources and/or like time and will to maybe start testing PSUs the same way and do videos like that one about them From about summer I'm thinking about upgrading my PC and while like all the components have reviews, test, buyer's manuals then with PSU all I really have is Aris website, which is good and useful, still would like some other medium for information. PSUTierList is ancient at this point and either I don't know some good place for this, or there just isn't.
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Hey Steve, I'm new here. Do you maybe have resources and/or like time and will to maybe start testing PSUs the same way and do videos like that one about them From about summer I'm thinking about upgrading my PC and while like all the components have reviews, test, buyer's manuals then with PSU all I really have is Aris website, which is good and useful, still would like some other medium for information. PSUTierList is ancient at this point and either I don't know some good place for this, or there just isn't.
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gamingallday9225
I have two questions
1) why isn't 7950X3D in the list I world imagine it would be better than even 9800x3d. Maybe sure to price
2) isn't this test kind of useless for people with 4090 that won't play in 1080p
I would rather see a real game performance in 1440p or 4k. This way of measuring is misleading to me. You don't know what you get in real gaming with more normal resolutions people use these days. I always play at 1440p myself.
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I have two questions
1) why isn't 7950X3D in the list I world imagine it would be better than even 9800x3d. Maybe sure to price
2) isn't this test kind of useless for people with 4090 that won't play in 1080p
I would rather see a real game performance in 1440p or 4k. This way of measuring is misleading to me. You don't know what you get in real gaming with more normal resolutions people use these days. I always play at 1440p myself.
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kooltime8597
Stability is everything, every other feature is secondary to - remember the saying will it run crysis - now its WILL IT JUST RUN !!!
especially if do real work to earn real money and the in-stability causes to lose work = really bad for your life, not worth a dam penny- its just a giant paperweight.
Companies today are pushing out crap for fast bucks, quality doesn't exist any more like we used to have several years ago.
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Stability is everything, every other feature is secondary to - remember the saying will it run crysis - now its WILL IT JUST RUN !!!
especially if do real work to earn real money and the in-stability causes to lose work = really bad for your life, not worth a dam penny- its just a giant paperweight.
Companies today are pushing out crap for fast bucks, quality doesn't exist any more like we used to have several years ago.
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beirch
The omission of the Ryzen 7500F in the mid range category seems strange, considering it performs close to the 12700K and even the 5700X3D (in games that don't benefit that much from the 3D cache), and can be found for $120-140 on AliExpress. You also get the benefit of jumping on the AM5 platform, which will almost certainly benefit you in the long run.
Of course, it doesn't have the same workstation performance, but still.
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The omission of the Ryzen 7500F in the mid range category seems strange, considering it performs close to the 12700K and even the 5700X3D (in games that don't benefit that much from the 3D cache), and can be found for $120-140 on AliExpress. You also get the benefit of jumping on the AM5 platform, which will almost certainly benefit you in the long run.
Of course, it doesn't have the same workstation performance, but still.
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