AMD Ryzen 5 2600X & 1600 AF 2023 Revisit vs. 5800X3D, 7800X3D, & More CPU Benchmarks
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Date: 2023-12-02
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bradmorri
A system that was built new with a 2600 would have been equipt with a 20x0 GPU. It may be more meaningful for the user base to test a CPU upgrade against say a 2070 or 2080 rather than testing it against a 4090.
The review looks at upgrade prices for the CPU or cpu/motherboard and recognized that CPU upgrades are most likely budget conscious users but completely avoids mention of the 1600-2000 cost of the 4090 needed to match the results in all of the charts of the review.
The question should be is it worth upgrading to a 5800x3d if you still have a 2070? Is it more cost effective or better value spending your money on upgrading the GPU rather than the 2600?
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A system that was built new with a 2600 would have been equipt with a 20x0 GPU. It may be more meaningful for the user base to test a CPU upgrade against say a 2070 or 2080 rather than testing it against a 4090.
The review looks at upgrade prices for the CPU or cpu/motherboard and recognized that CPU upgrades are most likely budget conscious users but completely avoids mention of the 1600-2000 cost of the 4090 needed to match the results in all of the charts of the review.
The question should be is it worth upgrading to a 5800x3d if you still have a 2070? Is it more cost effective or better value spending your money on upgrading the GPU rather than the 2600?
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brknseals
This video was what I was looking for a few months back. Upgraded from the 2600 to the 5700X on an MSI X470 board for a dedicated OBS streaming build. Pricing/power eliminated the 5800X & X3D. Had some hiccups related to MSI's support site and ease of access for firmware. After a day and half of troubleshooting board & windows gremlins the performance difference was noticed immediately. No more encode issues with the Polaris card. Still plan to try and chuck the 2600 into a scrap build for a pet project or two. [Edit] Forgot to say thanks for your efforts team!
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This video was what I was looking for a few months back. Upgraded from the 2600 to the 5700X on an MSI X470 board for a dedicated OBS streaming build. Pricing/power eliminated the 5800X & X3D. Had some hiccups related to MSI's support site and ease of access for firmware. After a day and half of troubleshooting board & windows gremlins the performance difference was noticed immediately. No more encode issues with the Polaris card. Still plan to try and chuck the 2600 into a scrap build for a pet project or two. [Edit] Forgot to say thanks for your efforts team!
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hollowknight9158
I'm still using a 2600 on a B350 mobo. While I can upgrade it to a 5000 series I don't know if I will, since the PC was a prebuilt and it came with water cooling, which is cool (but both GPU and CPU). The GPU however is a 1060, for which I have no heatsink & cooler. I have no idea why EKWB decided to water cool the 1060 in their prebuild iwin 101 gaming rigs. As a fun tidbit, I bought the PC from one of their ex employees and my PC was a showpiece in computex or another similar event.
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I'm still using a 2600 on a B350 mobo. While I can upgrade it to a 5000 series I don't know if I will, since the PC was a prebuilt and it came with water cooling, which is cool (but both GPU and CPU). The GPU however is a 1060, for which I have no heatsink & cooler. I have no idea why EKWB decided to water cool the 1060 in their prebuild iwin 101 gaming rigs. As a fun tidbit, I bought the PC from one of their ex employees and my PC was a showpiece in computex or another similar event.
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ms-st5ij
Well, my Haswell-EP is even older than the Zen+ CPUs and still performs similar in Cyberpunk, I got 88 fps avg with the in-game-benchmark on a 2696V3 + 6950XT on 1440p/Ultra, and I got that CPU + 64 GB RAM + X99-Motherboard combination three years ago for cheap, too. This is on CachyOS (Linux) with a lot of packages hand-tuned. The far better multi-core performance was the reason for a platform switch and could sell my AM4 hardware for a similar price that I got the Xeon hardware for.
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Well, my Haswell-EP is even older than the Zen+ CPUs and still performs similar in Cyberpunk, I got 88 fps avg with the in-game-benchmark on a 2696V3 + 6950XT on 1440p/Ultra, and I got that CPU + 64 GB RAM + X99-Motherboard combination three years ago for cheap, too. This is on CachyOS (Linux) with a lot of packages hand-tuned. The far better multi-core performance was the reason for a platform switch and could sell my AM4 hardware for a similar price that I got the Xeon hardware for.
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grtninja
I have Ryzen 1400, 3600, 5600x,5800x, and a 5800x3d, all running similar speed memory, you will see a jump in most of these cpu's but less so with the 5800x vs 5800x3d. If you're on am4 stick to am4. Some games want frequency some want the vcache, if you play a mix of games, and don't have a 80 or 90 class card you won't see much difference between 5800x and the x3d. Saying you're marooned on anything doesn't help it's cause, AM4 is still a very capable platform.
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I have Ryzen 1400, 3600, 5600x,5800x, and a 5800x3d, all running similar speed memory, you will see a jump in most of these cpu's but less so with the 5800x vs 5800x3d. If you're on am4 stick to am4. Some games want frequency some want the vcache, if you play a mix of games, and don't have a 80 or 90 class card you won't see much difference between 5800x and the x3d. Saying you're marooned on anything doesn't help it's cause, AM4 is still a very capable platform.
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MirelRC
I got an R5 2600 back in 2019. It was the first CPU that brought me back to AMD after too many years of Intel. I replaced the 2600 with a 5600g in those dark days of mining craze. This APU served me well in that period. I've played games that I've never thought I could play on an iGPU. All those things were possible because I've made the decision to get the Ryzen 5 2600 in 2019. Now the 2600 is in my little brother's PC. He is pretty happy with it.
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I got an R5 2600 back in 2019. It was the first CPU that brought me back to AMD after too many years of Intel. I replaced the 2600 with a 5600g in those dark days of mining craze. This APU served me well in that period. I've played games that I've never thought I could play on an iGPU. All those things were possible because I've made the decision to get the Ryzen 5 2600 in 2019. Now the 2600 is in my little brother's PC. He is pretty happy with it.
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joshuapicarello
When the 5800X3D matches, and or beats out the 14900k in many of the titles, just makes me so happy to have stuck with AM4 for so long. Hard to believe AMD has managed to keep up with Intel, on the same socket. All while Intel has changed sockets more times than I can count at this point to accommodate new features. Just goes to show what can happen if you manage, and support, a single socket instead of changing up with each generation.
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When the 5800X3D matches, and or beats out the 14900k in many of the titles, just makes me so happy to have stuck with AM4 for so long. Hard to believe AMD has managed to keep up with Intel, on the same socket. All while Intel has changed sockets more times than I can count at this point to accommodate new features. Just goes to show what can happen if you manage, and support, a single socket instead of changing up with each generation.
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zpd8003
i really really REALLY don't see the point of these 'revisits', when they could be posting a review on one of many pc cases or coolers they have yet to review. If you're upgrading from an ancient CPU to a modern one, why would you care about exact numbers of performance uplift? The uplift will be huge, and that's a given. This is totally pointless and a waste of a video. This is one video I gladly skipped and saved myself the time.
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i really really REALLY don't see the point of these 'revisits', when they could be posting a review on one of many pc cases or coolers they have yet to review. If you're upgrading from an ancient CPU to a modern one, why would you care about exact numbers of performance uplift? The uplift will be huge, and that's a given. This is totally pointless and a waste of a video. This is one video I gladly skipped and saved myself the time.
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SmokinGoodd420
Still have my 1600AF OC'd to 4.1ghz paired with some samsung c die 16GB . Its been through many different variations through the years , it has been my homelab setup. I literally purchased this CPU right after Gamers Nexus's original review, for the MSRP. I told all my friends to grab one too! LOL Really appreciate the content especially doing a revisit in 2023. Thank you GN team! Love and appreciate you all!
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Still have my 1600AF OC'd to 4.1ghz paired with some samsung c die 16GB . Its been through many different variations through the years , it has been my homelab setup. I literally purchased this CPU right after Gamers Nexus's original review, for the MSRP. I told all my friends to grab one too! LOL Really appreciate the content especially doing a revisit in 2023. Thank you GN team! Love and appreciate you all!
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hectorgonzalez869
I switched from a 2600 to a 5800x3D a week ago. the jump in performance is was insane, even taking into a count the fact I am still running ddr4 3200, on an old msi b450m mortar, and a low profile noctua fan that probably doesn't gives it not much headroom to boost, still... it was the most impressive performance boost I've witnessed, and all by swapping a single part. Just amazing.
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I switched from a 2600 to a 5800x3D a week ago. the jump in performance is was insane, even taking into a count the fact I am still running ddr4 3200, on an old msi b450m mortar, and a low profile noctua fan that probably doesn't gives it not much headroom to boost, still... it was the most impressive performance boost I've witnessed, and all by swapping a single part. Just amazing.
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marxmaiale9981
It's great to do occasional revisits, processors don't go bad when new generations are released. They generally last until something changes on the software side that needs something not in the model.
In anticipation of Meteor Lake, a revisit to various integrated graphics from both Intel and AMD would be nice, at least showing their progress march.
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It's great to do occasional revisits, processors don't go bad when new generations are released. They generally last until something changes on the software side that needs something not in the model.
In anticipation of Meteor Lake, a revisit to various integrated graphics from both Intel and AMD would be nice, at least showing their progress march.
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gamersnexus
I have a 6800xt paired with a 2200g which severely bottlenecks it so I'm glad to see good upgrade options are readily available. I should pick up a 5700x or a 5800x3d once I have the budget for it.
Until then I'll make do with the 3.95 ghz overclock I was able to achieve with my brave litte 2200g, it boosts up to over 5 ghz according to hwmonitor.
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I have a 6800xt paired with a 2200g which severely bottlenecks it so I'm glad to see good upgrade options are readily available. I should pick up a 5700x or a 5800x3d once I have the budget for it.
Until then I'll make do with the 3.95 ghz overclock I was able to achieve with my brave litte 2200g, it boosts up to over 5 ghz according to hwmonitor.
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gamersnexus
These charts are all over the place, not including the same list of CPUs from one list to the next. R5 5600 and r5 5600X are both included and removed at random. Also, why not show the more budget friendly 5500? Just random bar graphs with no real relevance without showing matching peer data. And you talk shit about Linus, you aren't much better.
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These charts are all over the place, not including the same list of CPUs from one list to the next. R5 5600 and r5 5600X are both included and removed at random. Also, why not show the more budget friendly 5500? Just random bar graphs with no real relevance without showing matching peer data. And you talk shit about Linus, you aren't much better.
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InnuendoXP
6 cores being just about as good as 8 for gaming even after all this time is the most interesting thing about this for me. With the full power of hindsight, 8 cores over 6 hardly mattered then, and it hardly matters now.
If AMD just made a 600X3D model each gen, it'd be the obvious choice for gamers.
Maybe not for shareholders though.
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6 cores being just about as good as 8 for gaming even after all this time is the most interesting thing about this for me. With the full power of hindsight, 8 cores over 6 hardly mattered then, and it hardly matters now.
If AMD just made a 600X3D model each gen, it'd be the obvious choice for gamers.
Maybe not for shareholders though.
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dragoon0anime
GPUs to pair with the 5800X/5700X and 5800X3D.
During Black Friday, I was watching TechDeals, and a topic in the chat was how good the X3D is in gaming compared to the non-3D version.
Then it turned into 'do you have the GPU to get that extra performance?' So, what would be the threshold GPU where it doesn't really matter?
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GPUs to pair with the 5800X/5700X and 5800X3D.
During Black Friday, I was watching TechDeals, and a topic in the chat was how good the X3D is in gaming compared to the non-3D version.
Then it turned into 'do you have the GPU to get that extra performance?' So, what would be the threshold GPU where it doesn't really matter?
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wedge9998
I d love to see 4k resolution added to these charts. That s the resolution I game on and there is always a lot of talk about 4k usually being worried about GPU limitations not CPU. I know that s a little more nuisance discussion so numbers would be great to get a real sense of how much CPU s matter for 4k in different games.
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I d love to see 4k resolution added to these charts. That s the resolution I game on and there is always a lot of talk about 4k usually being worried about GPU limitations not CPU. I know that s a little more nuisance discussion so numbers would be great to get a real sense of how much CPU s matter for 4k in different games.
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RGjolstad
I love these videos where you take a look at, or even just include, the older products.
I've just ordered an upgrade including a 7800X3D and 7900XTX which will be a HUGE jump from my current 1600X and 1070.
Hopefully I can keep this new hardware also running for many years before needing an upgrade again.
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I love these videos where you take a look at, or even just include, the older products.
I've just ordered an upgrade including a 7800X3D and 7900XTX which will be a HUGE jump from my current 1600X and 1070.
Hopefully I can keep this new hardware also running for many years before needing an upgrade again.
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dnakatomiuk
When i was building my first Ryzen in 2020 the 2600 was my CPU of choice on my Gigabyte B450 Aurous Elite board. As I was trying to balance out to get a decent GPU and RAM, then the 3300X was announced but that thing really didnt exist much. So I managed to push for a 3600 and RX580 8GB and 16GB RAM in the end
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When i was building my first Ryzen in 2020 the 2600 was my CPU of choice on my Gigabyte B450 Aurous Elite board. As I was trying to balance out to get a decent GPU and RAM, then the 3300X was announced but that thing really didnt exist much. So I managed to push for a 3600 and RX580 8GB and 16GB RAM in the end
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kahnzo
I'm pretty happy with my six year old 1700x, rx580 machine, but that's because anything I'm running is 1080p and it still works fine. Going from 40 to 60 fps is huge. Going from consistent 60 to 120 fps is far less important. So, if I can low setting to get a nice consistent 60 fps on 1080p means I'm quite happy.
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I'm pretty happy with my six year old 1700x, rx580 machine, but that's because anything I'm running is 1080p and it still works fine. Going from 40 to 60 fps is huge. Going from consistent 60 to 120 fps is far less important. So, if I can low setting to get a nice consistent 60 fps on 1080p means I'm quite happy.
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ren7a8ero
I'm still on my 2600 and it is amazing. Quiet and cool at lower loads, got even better after an undervolt. I wanted a benchmark for these games, and I'm glad GN delivered! Now I'm sure I can keep this cpu for longer than I thought, just my gpu needs to pick up. I think an RX 6600 can be a good match.
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I'm still on my 2600 and it is amazing. Quiet and cool at lower loads, got even better after an undervolt. I wanted a benchmark for these games, and I'm glad GN delivered! Now I'm sure I can keep this cpu for longer than I thought, just my gpu needs to pick up. I think an RX 6600 can be a good match.
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