HW News - AMD GPUOpen Marketing Blunder, 6.5GB/s SSD, & Unpatchable Vulnerability
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Date: 2020-05-17
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Rizon1985
It's not uncommon you have to temporarily change the license of your open source code. If you have to switch to a library with closed source, you can't release the whole source open anymore. Over time you can refactor the code to partially or fully switch back but updates happen fast to stay competitive. That competitiveness is also why you get forced to use solutions from companies who spend millions on software engineers rather than rely on some alpha state open source project put together by some guy that works on it 2 saturdays a month (but don't worry, he'll fix the terrible performance and compatibility once all the critical bugs are out). Over time AMD can find alternatives, make alternatives themselves or buy a special license if possible but if they can't bring a competitive product on the market, you are dead in the water. That's where AMD always has been lacking with their software side. I much rather pay extra for the company that spends a ton of money on engineers to make a working solution than the company that tries to go cheap and exclaim the moral high ground while they actually just didn't have the ability to compete.
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It's not uncommon you have to temporarily change the license of your open source code. If you have to switch to a library with closed source, you can't release the whole source open anymore. Over time you can refactor the code to partially or fully switch back but updates happen fast to stay competitive. That competitiveness is also why you get forced to use solutions from companies who spend millions on software engineers rather than rely on some alpha state open source project put together by some guy that works on it 2 saturdays a month (but don't worry, he'll fix the terrible performance and compatibility once all the critical bugs are out). Over time AMD can find alternatives, make alternatives themselves or buy a special license if possible but if they can't bring a competitive product on the market, you are dead in the water. That's where AMD always has been lacking with their software side. I much rather pay extra for the company that spends a ton of money on engineers to make a working solution than the company that tries to go cheap and exclaim the moral high ground while they actually just didn't have the ability to compete.
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Cilvar
/yawn Oh, is another new console launch on the horizon? Time to tout how it's going revolutionize gaming, with graphics noone ever thought possible again. Yup, never heard that one before. Nope, I've never seen a tech demo that looks vastly better than anything that the engine will ever actually produce with all the included overhead of actually running a game. Nope. Never. Electronics and software, does not magically jump 2 or 3 generations worth of precedented progress, just because someone says so. No, I have no faith whatsoever in whatever voodoo bulls t Sweeney is trying to sell, n'or the claim that the PS5 has destroyed the PC in terms of storage performance. Sorry, I wasn't born yesterday.
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/yawn Oh, is another new console launch on the horizon? Time to tout how it's going revolutionize gaming, with graphics noone ever thought possible again. Yup, never heard that one before. Nope, I've never seen a tech demo that looks vastly better than anything that the engine will ever actually produce with all the included overhead of actually running a game. Nope. Never. Electronics and software, does not magically jump 2 or 3 generations worth of precedented progress, just because someone says so. No, I have no faith whatsoever in whatever voodoo bulls t Sweeney is trying to sell, n'or the claim that the PS5 has destroyed the PC in terms of storage performance. Sorry, I wasn't born yesterday.
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man2104
The SSD related advancement in PS5 and the new XBOX isn't in the SSD itself, but the high throughput connection between GPU and SSD. Both consoles have dedicated hardware to move data between SSD and the GPU memory bypassing the CPU & system memory. Which is impossible on PC right now. It will take PC market a while to catch up as it requires both hardware change and software change. PC GPU has to put SSD expansion slot on the card so we can install SSD on it. Then software has to make changes to install the graphics data on the GPU connected SSD, which might require a change in the OS or graphics API stack.
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The SSD related advancement in PS5 and the new XBOX isn't in the SSD itself, but the high throughput connection between GPU and SSD. Both consoles have dedicated hardware to move data between SSD and the GPU memory bypassing the CPU & system memory. Which is impossible on PC right now. It will take PC market a while to catch up as it requires both hardware change and software change. PC GPU has to put SSD expansion slot on the card so we can install SSD on it. Then software has to make changes to install the graphics data on the GPU connected SSD, which might require a change in the OS or graphics API stack.
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Sheikh
Steve Burke is probably the only guy who's had and have, the guts to take the fight to AMD for some of their sudden opinion changes. GPU 'Open', AM4 socket are just recent examples. It's quite hard to even do any sort of criticism about AMD because the rapid fangirls will come stomping at you! Last I remember, I said Good Job to AMD for fixing a driver issue in their Radeon drivers last year which fixed a LoL game crash when on loading screens. I said 'Good job' and all I got was downvotes in the AMD sub reddit. Keep it up Steve!
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Steve Burke is probably the only guy who's had and have, the guts to take the fight to AMD for some of their sudden opinion changes. GPU 'Open', AM4 socket are just recent examples. It's quite hard to even do any sort of criticism about AMD because the rapid fangirls will come stomping at you! Last I remember, I said Good Job to AMD for fixing a driver issue in their Radeon drivers last year which fixed a LoL game crash when on loading screens. I said 'Good job' and all I got was downvotes in the AMD sub reddit. Keep it up Steve!
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Gareth
I was hoping for more from Samsung regarding new NVME drives. They still aren't pushing PCIe 4.0's extra bandwidth, just as we have with SATA & PCIe 3.0 M.2's). With the read speed being on the only place where it shines, I do wonder if they're pushing QLCs to servers. I really dislike QLC, there is nothing good about it, being only slightly I think I may need to buy a couple of decent M.2 drives and put them in RAID0, that will be fast.. (I suspect this may be what Song and Xbox are doing to get such performance).
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I was hoping for more from Samsung regarding new NVME drives. They still aren't pushing PCIe 4.0's extra bandwidth, just as we have with SATA & PCIe 3.0 M.2's). With the read speed being on the only place where it shines, I do wonder if they're pushing QLCs to servers. I really dislike QLC, there is nothing good about it, being only slightly I think I may need to buy a couple of decent M.2 drives and put them in RAID0, that will be fast.. (I suspect this may be what Song and Xbox are doing to get such performance).
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Angelcity1345
Were you being sarcastic about sweeney being a pc advocate? because I can clearly remember him saying that PC gaming is dead. Yesterday's PCs were for people that were working and later playing games, even if those games were lower-end ones. There will always be a market for casual games and online games like World of Warcraft. But at the end of the day, consoles have definitely left PC games behind. Tim sweeney 2008
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Were you being sarcastic about sweeney being a pc advocate? because I can clearly remember him saying that PC gaming is dead. Yesterday's PCs were for people that were working and later playing games, even if those games were lower-end ones. There will always be a market for casual games and online games like World of Warcraft. But at the end of the day, consoles have definitely left PC games behind. Tim sweeney 2008
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Paul_Sleeping
Reading the news, Taiwan has been mentioned as one of the top countries in taking all the right steps in keeping the virus to a minimum. I'm not sure they want to invite the whole world to this small island and risk re-infection again. I think all countries should just call 2020 a lost cause and concentrate on 2021. Short term pain is better than long term problems.
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Reading the news, Taiwan has been mentioned as one of the top countries in taking all the right steps in keeping the virus to a minimum. I'm not sure they want to invite the whole world to this small island and risk re-infection again. I think all countries should just call 2020 a lost cause and concentrate on 2021. Short term pain is better than long term problems.
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Tom
Im really pleased you put effort into the single use plastic problem. I would like to see packaging graded like how over here in Europe are electrical products are graded A,B,C etc for power consumption efficiency with a standard sticker. This needs to be a global and easy to understand grading program. Thanks for your content I will be placing a order soon as I can.
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Im really pleased you put effort into the single use plastic problem. I would like to see packaging graded like how over here in Europe are electrical products are graded A,B,C etc for power consumption efficiency with a standard sticker. This needs to be a global and easy to understand grading program. Thanks for your content I will be placing a order soon as I can.
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ShikiKaze
Radeon Ray's OOOHHHHHH So Nvidia's Ray-Tracing? With AMD shitty coding ability like their OH SO -Optimized Drivers- ... _eyeroll intensify_ Also glad to see you and other tech-tubers, tech heads authors nailing them on this. Good to see common sense isn't lost in this world. Makings things convoluted instead of simple seems to be the norm nowadays.
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Radeon Ray's OOOHHHHHH So Nvidia's Ray-Tracing? With AMD shitty coding ability like their OH SO -Optimized Drivers- ... _eyeroll intensify_ Also glad to see you and other tech-tubers, tech heads authors nailing them on this. Good to see common sense isn't lost in this world. Makings things convoluted instead of simple seems to be the norm nowadays.
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BlackRedDead
Steve Gamers Nexus - why the hell you did pay extra to get just blue rubber that is pretty much never seen? (o.O) - that's like putting extra RBG into a case without window! The print is nice, the size... might ppl exist that like it - i like my just big enough mouse mat! :-) But interesting how they got bigger despite dpi got larger! xD
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Steve Gamers Nexus - why the hell you did pay extra to get just blue rubber that is pretty much never seen? (o.O) - that's like putting extra RBG into a case without window! The print is nice, the size... might ppl exist that like it - i like my just big enough mouse mat! :-) But interesting how they got bigger despite dpi got larger! xD
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