Tearing Down the Intel Arc A380 Gunnir Photon GPU: Into the Unkonw
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Date: 2022-07-16
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denvera1g1
I was following Larabee back in the day(IIRC 65nm or larger) and Knights ferry(45nm but with no GPU development), Project Larabee was an amazing 'GPU' and wish they had taken it further not dropping the GPU side of software development for future production models. Despite larabee being in the proof of concept stage with the GPU aspect being a side project of what would become the Xeon Phi CPU accelerator, this poorly binned X86 many core processor was actually compitent as a GPU through software, instead of hardware acceleration.
If Intel had gotten it on a better node as i think at the time their CPUs were on 45nm instead of 65nm, Project Larabee and the final product Xeon Phi could have been an amazing general purpose compute module, able to do amazing things through software acceleration.
I dont think regular CPUs had been able to compete with the 65nm Larabee until the 32 core 7nm Threadripper 3000 series, then again, the larabee project probably had more effort put into developing software acceleration than anything an indi dev has done to run games on CPU.
I'd be very happy if i could get a theoretical 13930E with 48 E cores, i'd like to see what happens with that level of parallelisation on the consumer platform
I like to imagine a Xeon Phi being on Intel 10, probably 200-220 cores at 2.1Ghz. Maybe 6700xt performance, from an X86 CPU that only uses 250w, and maybe would perform better than the 7nm Ampere Altra160.
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I was following Larabee back in the day(IIRC 65nm or larger) and Knights ferry(45nm but with no GPU development), Project Larabee was an amazing 'GPU' and wish they had taken it further not dropping the GPU side of software development for future production models. Despite larabee being in the proof of concept stage with the GPU aspect being a side project of what would become the Xeon Phi CPU accelerator, this poorly binned X86 many core processor was actually compitent as a GPU through software, instead of hardware acceleration.
If Intel had gotten it on a better node as i think at the time their CPUs were on 45nm instead of 65nm, Project Larabee and the final product Xeon Phi could have been an amazing general purpose compute module, able to do amazing things through software acceleration.
I dont think regular CPUs had been able to compete with the 65nm Larabee until the 32 core 7nm Threadripper 3000 series, then again, the larabee project probably had more effort put into developing software acceleration than anything an indi dev has done to run games on CPU.
I'd be very happy if i could get a theoretical 13930E with 48 E cores, i'd like to see what happens with that level of parallelisation on the consumer platform
I like to imagine a Xeon Phi being on Intel 10, probably 200-220 cores at 2.1Ghz. Maybe 6700xt performance, from an X86 CPU that only uses 250w, and maybe would perform better than the 7nm Ampere Altra160.
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MassNoobness
For those who bother to actually read comments and want to make a little bit more of the knowlege, one of the niche things this class of GPU's tell you is what to expect from high end integrated graphics, as the die on a APU will roughly have the same layout with a slower memory bandwith(for obvious reasons)
the RX 6400 has the same core/CU count as the AMD 680M inside of the 6800U APU. If you have a remote interest in any high end pc handhelds, these gpus will roughly give you the ceiling of performance to expect.
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For those who bother to actually read comments and want to make a little bit more of the knowlege, one of the niche things this class of GPU's tell you is what to expect from high end integrated graphics, as the die on a APU will roughly have the same layout with a slower memory bandwith(for obvious reasons)
the RX 6400 has the same core/CU count as the AMD 680M inside of the 6800U APU. If you have a remote interest in any high end pc handhelds, these gpus will roughly give you the ceiling of performance to expect.
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denvera1g1
I wish the A380 was low enough power to go into into a single slot low profile computer, i've got an HTPC that most of the time spends its time transcoding video, but the RX6400 is good enough for the rare occasion i play games on it.
Heck i'd like an A330, slap a crap single slot 1/2 height cooler on it and charge 90 for it, as long as i can get AVI i'd be happy
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I wish the A380 was low enough power to go into into a single slot low profile computer, i've got an HTPC that most of the time spends its time transcoding video, but the RX6400 is good enough for the rare occasion i play games on it.
Heck i'd like an A330, slap a crap single slot 1/2 height cooler on it and charge 90 for it, as long as i can get AVI i'd be happy
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Robert
Screw these graphics cards LANCOOL 3 Man come on no one cares about these cards when we just want to see if the Lancool 3 is as good as all of the other reviewers are saying it is I want o order one but you are my got to for these things I have graphics cards give me a review of the Lancool 3 man!!!!!
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Screw these graphics cards LANCOOL 3 Man come on no one cares about these cards when we just want to see if the Lancool 3 is as good as all of the other reviewers are saying it is I want o order one but you are my got to for these things I have graphics cards give me a review of the Lancool 3 man!!!!!
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Robert
XFX RX480 I have had that kind of crappy connection for the connectors. Used a small straight blade screwdriver to get them separated without breaking them. At least the rest of it was easy to take care of. Cleaned the cooler stacks and replaced the cpu thermal compound and it works even better now:)
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XFX RX480 I have had that kind of crappy connection for the connectors. Used a small straight blade screwdriver to get them separated without breaking them. At least the rest of it was easy to take care of. Cleaned the cooler stacks and replaced the cpu thermal compound and it works even better now:)
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retr213
Despite realising how 6400 is somewhat good for low profile single slot. I must admit that this board is all too similar to less than half price gt730 and the likes, apart from that flatty heatpipe, and maybe vrm. And this kind of treatment is seems to be well founded.
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Despite realising how 6400 is somewhat good for low profile single slot. I must admit that this board is all too similar to less than half price gt730 and the likes, apart from that flatty heatpipe, and maybe vrm. And this kind of treatment is seems to be well founded.
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Mike
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Hey guys. I was considering applying for the part time position you posted, but I have more experience with writing and research than camera and lighting things. Should I still apply, or wait for something else to open up later?
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The
That RX 6400 came back with a vengeance!
On a side note, it's impressive that with a smaller die size, just 4 PCIe lanes, a 64-bit bus and 4 GB of VRAM the RX 6400 still managed to beat the A380. Intel has a long way ahead.
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That RX 6400 came back with a vengeance!
On a side note, it's impressive that with a smaller die size, just 4 PCIe lanes, a 64-bit bus and 4 GB of VRAM the RX 6400 still managed to beat the A380. Intel has a long way ahead.
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JOHNNIE
Intel Arc? NOPE! Maybe if you have serious space constraints, like your trying to hardcore game on the go in the mall LOOOL not worth it yet this is a test for them and anyone trying to adopt this is gonna get suckered
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Intel Arc? NOPE! Maybe if you have serious space constraints, like your trying to hardcore game on the go in the mall LOOOL not worth it yet this is a test for them and anyone trying to adopt this is gonna get suckered
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