AMD Fights Back: New Ryzen CPUs from 100 to 450 (R7 5800X3D, R5 5500, R5 4500)
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The i5 makes equal perfs or most to 5600X so so 5600 will not be a big deal form him. The 5700X at 300 isn't comparing well to a 12 cores cpu at all like the i7 (8P - 4E) so unless you're already on the AMD platform i wouldn't buy it.
After that yes AMD mobos are mostly cheaper, that well compensate but that's the last gen they will be supporting. If i really wanted to buy AMD i would wait Zen 4 personally.
Edit : i haven't talked about 5500 because losing half of the cache is a big deal, but at least that's a 6 cores cpu, that's a good option for someone on a tight budget but 20 more for the 12400F seems more appealing to me.
Date: 2022-03-15
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Kendog
I was surprised that AMD would release a beta bios update that would officially support ZEN 3 processors to 300 series motherboards including the A320 chipset which I still currently have a gigabyte A320M which it s a 60 motherboard and I would not put a 5800X which that s a cpu I recently bought because that 60 motherboard doesn t have good power phases for that 8 core cpu and for overclocking. And it s not a surprise that AMD released the ryzen 5 5600 (plus the 5700X which that s what we expect) which it will replace the most popular Ryzen 5 3600 because a lot of people chose that cpu and the ryzen 5500 might be competing with the 3600 maybe, I could be wrong even though I said the 5600 is going to replace the 3600 but will see what happens.
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I was surprised that AMD would release a beta bios update that would officially support ZEN 3 processors to 300 series motherboards including the A320 chipset which I still currently have a gigabyte A320M which it s a 60 motherboard and I would not put a 5800X which that s a cpu I recently bought because that 60 motherboard doesn t have good power phases for that 8 core cpu and for overclocking. And it s not a surprise that AMD released the ryzen 5 5600 (plus the 5700X which that s what we expect) which it will replace the most popular Ryzen 5 3600 because a lot of people chose that cpu and the ryzen 5500 might be competing with the 3600 maybe, I could be wrong even though I said the 5600 is going to replace the 3600 but will see what happens.
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SVP
Who in the heck will pay 450 for 5800X 3D? Even 360 for 5800X? I would consider it maybe for 200 as the most. 12600K is way better than 5800X and costs 270 right now in Canada. With all the bells and whistles and PCI-E 5.0 (yeah, useless for now but still) and DDR5 support (too expensive at the moment, but one can at least re-use it in Z790 motherboard in the future if DDR5 pricing normalises). Quality X570 motherboards aren't in any way cheaper than comparable tier and quality Z690s. So what's the point? AMD keeps to fail epicly instead of fighting back.
Needless to mention that 12700K is only 400 now and it completely destroys anything AMD is capable of throwing at it in the same or even higher price range.
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Who in the heck will pay 450 for 5800X 3D? Even 360 for 5800X? I would consider it maybe for 200 as the most. 12600K is way better than 5800X and costs 270 right now in Canada. With all the bells and whistles and PCI-E 5.0 (yeah, useless for now but still) and DDR5 support (too expensive at the moment, but one can at least re-use it in Z790 motherboard in the future if DDR5 pricing normalises). Quality X570 motherboards aren't in any way cheaper than comparable tier and quality Z690s. So what's the point? AMD keeps to fail epicly instead of fighting back.
Needless to mention that 12700K is only 400 now and it completely destroys anything AMD is capable of throwing at it in the same or even higher price range.
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alex
So.... as someone who actually might buy the r5 5600 non x to pair it with a 6500 xt, will the pcie gen 4 be fully available on the new cpu? Will it be worth pairing the rx 6500 x with it to use the infinity cache? (or whatever tech there is that amd uses to make their cpu and gpu work together better, sorry guys I'm unsure what the name was) Because if it works out fine it might be the new under 800 build for some decent/solid 1080p gaming in my opinion. (Also waiting for you to test it against the 12400/f as it is also the king in this price range and it would be nice to see them side by side)
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So.... as someone who actually might buy the r5 5600 non x to pair it with a 6500 xt, will the pcie gen 4 be fully available on the new cpu? Will it be worth pairing the rx 6500 x with it to use the infinity cache? (or whatever tech there is that amd uses to make their cpu and gpu work together better, sorry guys I'm unsure what the name was) Because if it works out fine it might be the new under 800 build for some decent/solid 1080p gaming in my opinion. (Also waiting for you to test it against the 12400/f as it is also the king in this price range and it would be nice to see them side by side)
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Syping
About 300 series memory
My X370 motherboard is very unstable with RAM... i have a 3200 G.Skill Kit currently on it.. i used to be able to run 2933 MHz on it but i had to reduce it to 2866 MHz.. because of concern it might be worse later i went further down to 2667 MHz XMP.. it crashes with the 2133 MHz JEDEC profile with this RAM.. with 4 modules installed.. 2 modules have worked as i remember.. 2667 MHz JEDEC worked on my Crucial Ballastix Kit which i use on a B550 system now.. because i can run it on 3600 MHz XMP there
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About 300 series memory
My X370 motherboard is very unstable with RAM... i have a 3200 G.Skill Kit currently on it.. i used to be able to run 2933 MHz on it but i had to reduce it to 2866 MHz.. because of concern it might be worse later i went further down to 2667 MHz XMP.. it crashes with the 2133 MHz JEDEC profile with this RAM.. with 4 modules installed.. 2 modules have worked as i remember.. 2667 MHz JEDEC worked on my Crucial Ballastix Kit which i use on a B550 system now.. because i can run it on 3600 MHz XMP there
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Mshojat
Thing about the low end is that Intel motherboards are expensive, so AMD should have the biggest advantage here even if their CPUs aren't as good performance efficiency for cost, since the Intel mother boards add _so so_ much more to the system cost. Because of this I think it's crazy that AMD hadn't been producing more lower end CPUs earlier on.
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Thing about the low end is that Intel motherboards are expensive, so AMD should have the biggest advantage here even if their CPUs aren't as good performance efficiency for cost, since the Intel mother boards add _so so_ much more to the system cost. Because of this I think it's crazy that AMD hadn't been producing more lower end CPUs earlier on.
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Alvin853
What's important to know: The R5 5500 is a Cezanne chip, so it's basically a 5600G with the G removed. That makes it different from all the other 5000 series Ryzen processors that are Vermeer chips, because Vermeer is based on chiplet design with a dedicated I/O-Die, and Cezanne is monolithic with all components inside a single piece of silicon.
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What's important to know: The R5 5500 is a Cezanne chip, so it's basically a 5600G with the G removed. That makes it different from all the other 5000 series Ryzen processors that are Vermeer chips, because Vermeer is based on chiplet design with a dedicated I/O-Die, and Cezanne is monolithic with all components inside a single piece of silicon.
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Mustang
MY PC Specs
GeForce tuff 1660super OC 6GB, AMD ryzen3 3100 4 core, 8 thread processor 3.9GHz Max boost, 3.6GHz base with is prime B450M-A 5X Motherboard and Corsair TX650M power supply 16 GB RAM
Updated Saturday, November 27th, 2021
Ryzen 5 5600 G 6 core 12 thread processor 4.4GHz MAX boost and 3.9GHz base
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MY PC Specs
GeForce tuff 1660super OC 6GB, AMD ryzen3 3100 4 core, 8 thread processor 3.9GHz Max boost, 3.6GHz base with is prime B450M-A 5X Motherboard and Corsair TX650M power supply 16 GB RAM
Updated Saturday, November 27th, 2021
Ryzen 5 5600 G 6 core 12 thread processor 4.4GHz MAX boost and 3.9GHz base
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Hamarta
Back to playing a nice guy eh? F ck you AMD, these budget CPUs come a little too late. You have become greedy company, and you have shown your true color.
If not for Intel Core i5 very good performance/price ratio, you will never bother the release CPU in these budget segment and keep Milking the poor costumer.
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Back to playing a nice guy eh? F ck you AMD, these budget CPUs come a little too late. You have become greedy company, and you have shown your true color.
If not for Intel Core i5 very good performance/price ratio, you will never bother the release CPU in these budget segment and keep Milking the poor costumer.
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Ravenfeeder
As a X370 user I have no plans on investing any more into the platform. Restricted to PCIe 3.0 and with memory limitations I'll just wait for either Intel or AMD's next gen, or even longer. I'll also be waiting for DDR5 RAM to be better understood, faster and more stable.
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As a X370 user I have no plans on investing any more into the platform. Restricted to PCIe 3.0 and with memory limitations I'll just wait for either Intel or AMD's next gen, or even longer. I'll also be waiting for DDR5 RAM to be better understood, faster and more stable.
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