The real fighting styles behind Metal Gear Solid's CQC, explained
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Date: 2023-12-10
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-MasterCreeg
I've been training in judo for 13 years, and have been coaching/instructing judo for about five years now or so. I absolutely love seeing techniques like this in video games.
What I love about Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain, is the realism of some of Snake's techniques. For example, when Snake encounters Chico, he strangles Chico unconscious, because he needs to extract Chico to safety, but Chico is in an uncontrollable state of panic. The strangle that Snake uses on Chico is 'Nami Juji Jime', or 'Normal Cross Lock', a strangle technique that comes from judo (and likely, traditional Japanese jujitsu.
When Snake strangles typical enemies unconscious from behind, he uses another judo strangle (which is also probably from traditional Japanese jujitsu) called 'Kata Ha Jime', which roughly translates to 'Single Wing Lock'.
What I find interesting about Snake performing the Single Wing Lock, is he performs it the same way it's often taught in judo. In judo, when the Single Wing Lock is performed, practitioners are encouraged that the hand on the back of the uke's (partner / opponent) head, should be the back of your hand, and not the palm. Using the palm on the back of the uke's head can put unnecessary pressure on their neck, potentially causing harm, while using the back of your hand produces less pressure, causing less harm. It shows that when Snake strangles his enemy unconscious, he doesn't want to necessarily -hurt- them.
When performed correctly, a grappling, strangulation technique should be attacking the major carotid arteries of the neck. Attacking these points is actually safer than attacking the trachea (windpipe/throat, is less painful, and can knock someone out much quicker than a trachea-based strangle. Admittingly though, someone knocked out via a strangle will usually wake up a few seconds later, not minutes or hours later, like what video games and movies often portray.
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I've been training in judo for 13 years, and have been coaching/instructing judo for about five years now or so. I absolutely love seeing techniques like this in video games.
What I love about Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain, is the realism of some of Snake's techniques. For example, when Snake encounters Chico, he strangles Chico unconscious, because he needs to extract Chico to safety, but Chico is in an uncontrollable state of panic. The strangle that Snake uses on Chico is 'Nami Juji Jime', or 'Normal Cross Lock', a strangle technique that comes from judo (and likely, traditional Japanese jujitsu.
When Snake strangles typical enemies unconscious from behind, he uses another judo strangle (which is also probably from traditional Japanese jujitsu) called 'Kata Ha Jime', which roughly translates to 'Single Wing Lock'.
What I find interesting about Snake performing the Single Wing Lock, is he performs it the same way it's often taught in judo. In judo, when the Single Wing Lock is performed, practitioners are encouraged that the hand on the back of the uke's (partner / opponent) head, should be the back of your hand, and not the palm. Using the palm on the back of the uke's head can put unnecessary pressure on their neck, potentially causing harm, while using the back of your hand produces less pressure, causing less harm. It shows that when Snake strangles his enemy unconscious, he doesn't want to necessarily -hurt- them.
When performed correctly, a grappling, strangulation technique should be attacking the major carotid arteries of the neck. Attacking these points is actually safer than attacking the trachea (windpipe/throat, is less painful, and can knock someone out much quicker than a trachea-based strangle. Admittingly though, someone knocked out via a strangle will usually wake up a few seconds later, not minutes or hours later, like what video games and movies often portray.
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-AbigatorM
ok just a grap from life experience. (i looked up BECAUSE i did a thing in cqc without knowing)
i was in a bar and my at that date gf was harrassed by 3 guys. short: i told them to FO and come outside. ( i am 177cm and around 100kg) told them to fo again in hope they would leave me alone but were heated. sso the first one was -pushing me- in a teasing maner. like -push-haha what are you doing chubby- i just punched his face and grabed the next one on his t-shirts neck thingy (don't know the word reveaire) and got my knee in his nuts. got the third basicly the same but knee in stomach. no. 1 got up tried to punch me but did the (instinctly) cross arm and turned it around. kicked his leg and he was on the ground. by then the bar keep and a few strong guys came out and tamed them.
i know it sound's unbelievable but jezz i was pumped after that.
i hated it at the same time. but was glad to not even got a scratch.
btw the gf broke up with me short after.
i know you guys say -not true- etc but just remembering a friggin vidya game saved a few teeth and a jaw brake for me.
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ok just a grap from life experience. (i looked up BECAUSE i did a thing in cqc without knowing)
i was in a bar and my at that date gf was harrassed by 3 guys. short: i told them to FO and come outside. ( i am 177cm and around 100kg) told them to fo again in hope they would leave me alone but were heated. sso the first one was -pushing me- in a teasing maner. like -push-haha what are you doing chubby- i just punched his face and grabed the next one on his t-shirts neck thingy (don't know the word reveaire) and got my knee in his nuts. got the third basicly the same but knee in stomach. no. 1 got up tried to punch me but did the (instinctly) cross arm and turned it around. kicked his leg and he was on the ground. by then the bar keep and a few strong guys came out and tamed them.
i know it sound's unbelievable but jezz i was pumped after that.
i hated it at the same time. but was glad to not even got a scratch.
btw the gf broke up with me short after.
i know you guys say -not true- etc but just remembering a friggin vidya game saved a few teeth and a jaw brake for me.
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-godmodecheater153
Very good video but there is one little mistake. Old snake does not apply pressure on the carotid atteries in the scene or with his choke in mgs4. You can clearly see that his forearm/wrist is under his chin. When you apply a blood choke you need a -V- Form. E. g. your elbow is under his chin and your forearm applys pressure on one atterie and you biceps on the other. Or you can use the opponent should for one side and your own arm for the other. You can see the rear naked choke in mgs 2 but 3, 4 and 5 use air chokes (apply pressure on the windpipe and trachia)
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Very good video but there is one little mistake. Old snake does not apply pressure on the carotid atteries in the scene or with his choke in mgs4. You can clearly see that his forearm/wrist is under his chin. When you apply a blood choke you need a -V- Form. E. g. your elbow is under his chin and your forearm applys pressure on one atterie and you biceps on the other. Or you can use the opponent should for one side and your own arm for the other. You can see the rear naked choke in mgs 2 but 3, 4 and 5 use air chokes (apply pressure on the windpipe and trachia)
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polygon
Most times people don't even use CQC in normal situations, mainly you'll just be using your firearms. MGS allows for this to be practical, but in a real life situation it wouldn't be. Why use CQC to kill and or neutralize a man when you already have your own can on your rifle and can use that to just kill someone? They could make all sorts of sounds when in a grapple or chokehold, the sound of a bullet going through their head is much more safer. It's a lot more simple and less dangerous.
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Most times people don't even use CQC in normal situations, mainly you'll just be using your firearms. MGS allows for this to be practical, but in a real life situation it wouldn't be. Why use CQC to kill and or neutralize a man when you already have your own can on your rifle and can use that to just kill someone? They could make all sorts of sounds when in a grapple or chokehold, the sound of a bullet going through their head is much more safer. It's a lot more simple and less dangerous.
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-Alpha_zone84
Cqc you take out 5he fluffy marital arts combat. And straight up combat. Stricking holds. Basically will disable anyone. Or control them.
All of course is mystified.
Hence marital art is way of combat why is not taught society and cultural. Moral and etical legal.
Injury or death. Basically cqc is a fancy name for pure combat in close quarters and one should use there head. Unless one likes a 4 by 8 cell.
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Cqc you take out 5he fluffy marital arts combat. And straight up combat. Stricking holds. Basically will disable anyone. Or control them.
All of course is mystified.
Hence marital art is way of combat why is not taught society and cultural. Moral and etical legal.
Injury or death. Basically cqc is a fancy name for pure combat in close quarters and one should use there head. Unless one likes a 4 by 8 cell.
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-ShellShock11C
It's cool and all, but this stuff NEVER works out this clean in real life. I've studied martial arts, and been in the military. You attack someone with a weapon there's a 99% chance youre both going to be fighting over it, especially something as easily-grabbable as a rifle.
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It's cool and all, but this stuff NEVER works out this clean in real life. I've studied martial arts, and been in the military. You attack someone with a weapon there's a 99% chance youre both going to be fighting over it, especially something as easily-grabbable as a rifle.
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-ReformedCriminalD
This is more JKD than CQC
I was taught JKD since the 80s, CQC is mostly Silat and Slavic Boxing and not a lot of grappling like that, maybe grabbing the back of the head and arm
But not many throws or sweeping
A lot more creating distance or immediate killing
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This is more JKD than CQC
I was taught JKD since the 80s, CQC is mostly Silat and Slavic Boxing and not a lot of grappling like that, maybe grabbing the back of the head and arm
But not many throws or sweeping
A lot more creating distance or immediate killing
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-taylorbee4010
I honestly think this might be what Bruce meant by Jeet condo not the stuff we saw in his films not the stuff we saw in wherever this is how stuff can work in reality. Stuff happens so fast you can't see it and before you know it you're on the ground.
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I honestly think this might be what Bruce meant by Jeet condo not the stuff we saw in his films not the stuff we saw in wherever this is how stuff can work in reality. Stuff happens so fast you can't see it and before you know it you're on the ground.
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-KBXband
I've been choked out by Nami Juju Jime before. I was backyard wrestling with some friends and one of them who had been in the army employed that strangle and I blacked out pretty quickly before ai had the chance to tap out.
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I've been choked out by Nami Juju Jime before. I was backyard wrestling with some friends and one of them who had been in the army employed that strangle and I blacked out pretty quickly before ai had the chance to tap out.
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-rantmilk2545
The cqc in mgs is really cool tbh, like in other stealth games it kinda just feels like knock someone out but I guess when you make a story on cqc like metal gear solid did, then of it-ll be really neat and cool.
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The cqc in mgs is really cool tbh, like in other stealth games it kinda just feels like knock someone out but I guess when you make a story on cqc like metal gear solid did, then of it-ll be really neat and cool.
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-ajaynorris3526
Holy shit, I finally listened to my dad and started to play the mgs series. I started with ground zeroes and I had no idea the hand to hand combat itself was so complex.
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Holy shit, I finally listened to my dad and started to play the mgs series. I started with ground zeroes and I had no idea the hand to hand combat itself was so complex.
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-ShellShock11C
Nice Freddy Mercury reference. -ahem-
Momma. Just CQCd a maaaan. Put a gun against his head, used my elbooow instead. Mommaaaa. the mission has JUSSST BEGUNNN.
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Nice Freddy Mercury reference. -ahem-
Momma. Just CQCd a maaaan. Put a gun against his head, used my elbooow instead. Mommaaaa. the mission has JUSSST BEGUNNN.
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-MetalSnake6199
I want to make a Booklet on CQC. I really want to teach people The Boss' style. I'll use this style when I meet the folks at Outer Heaven.
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I want to make a Booklet on CQC. I really want to teach people The Boss' style. I'll use this style when I meet the folks at Outer Heaven.
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-timbabyok5229
CQC is actually based off of the real life CQB developed by William Fairbairn. Mgs even has a Version of the fairbairn/Sykes knife.
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CQC is actually based off of the real life CQB developed by William Fairbairn. Mgs even has a Version of the fairbairn/Sykes knife.
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-natoerlawyne772
1: 50 I think he use more Hapkido than Aikido, Hapkido is similar but more agressive/intensive
and for me is more effective
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1: 50 I think he use more Hapkido than Aikido, Hapkido is similar but more agressive/intensive
and for me is more effective
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polygon
Some of these moves will never work on a non-cooperating opponent though, and that's the only kind of opponent you get in real combat.
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Some of these moves will never work on a non-cooperating opponent though, and that's the only kind of opponent you get in real combat.
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-jesepiorlando2836
Most of the -cqc- in metal gear solid three is combat hapkido. But clearly snake uses more judo in MGSV phantom pain
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Most of the -cqc- in metal gear solid three is combat hapkido. But clearly snake uses more judo in MGSV phantom pain
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polygon
if i were to compare me with snake as a person. I'd say were both on the same level of seriousness in our time in our lives.
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if i were to compare me with snake as a person. I'd say were both on the same level of seriousness in our time in our lives.
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-LeoJohnGalt
Hadaka jime is only banned to lower kyu belt students, but osoto otoshi is perfectly legal in judo
good video tho
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Hadaka jime is only banned to lower kyu belt students, but osoto otoshi is perfectly legal in judo
good video tho
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-testhekid
snake is an amazing close combat fighter but this is even more solid proof that he's too amazing to easily comprehend
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snake is an amazing close combat fighter but this is even more solid proof that he's too amazing to easily comprehend
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-farryn874
How the hell is this only now in my recommendations, Im subbed to polygon and have gone down many mgs rabbit holes.
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How the hell is this only now in my recommendations, Im subbed to polygon and have gone down many mgs rabbit holes.
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-ShiddyKong
3: 46
Sadly, you-re right. He chose the non lethal path with Eli thus burdening us all for years to come
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3: 46
Sadly, you-re right. He chose the non lethal path with Eli thus burdening us all for years to come
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