Volkswagen ID 3 v Nissan Leaf review - which is the best new EV? - Autocar
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Date: 2022-04-17
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Ritz
After reading a lot of reviews, tested EVs myself and ripping myself out of my boyish wannabe know-it-all mode, I ended up thinking: - What does my family need regarding a new car? How do I actually use the car and what do we need? Does it drive good when it's slippery and snowy? Is it a waiting list to get it?
I know, it's boring to focus on these questions rather than range, battery management and charging speed. In my world I have to use the money on my family's needs and not fall into a pitfall of big, bigger - huge. Try to drive more than 300 km without a pause of one hour. I dare you.
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After reading a lot of reviews, tested EVs myself and ripping myself out of my boyish wannabe know-it-all mode, I ended up thinking: - What does my family need regarding a new car? How do I actually use the car and what do we need? Does it drive good when it's slippery and snowy? Is it a waiting list to get it?
I know, it's boring to focus on these questions rather than range, battery management and charging speed. In my world I have to use the money on my family's needs and not fall into a pitfall of big, bigger - huge. Try to drive more than 300 km without a pause of one hour. I dare you.
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Commuter
The vw id3 has been rushed to market in order that VW avoids billions in EU fines for failing to meet group average CO2 emissions standards. The user interface and software are unfinished, early buyers are paying handsomely for the privilege of becoming beta testers. I do hope VW can get their EV-s right but I don-t the id3 is a consumer ready product. VW are late to the EV party and playing catch up with Tesla, the EV market leaders. Tesla are Building a Giga factory in Berlin which is due to open in 2021, I suspect this will not be good for VW EV sales. Good luck VW.
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The vw id3 has been rushed to market in order that VW avoids billions in EU fines for failing to meet group average CO2 emissions standards. The user interface and software are unfinished, early buyers are paying handsomely for the privilege of becoming beta testers. I do hope VW can get their EV-s right but I don-t the id3 is a consumer ready product. VW are late to the EV party and playing catch up with Tesla, the EV market leaders. Tesla are Building a Giga factory in Berlin which is due to open in 2021, I suspect this will not be good for VW EV sales. Good luck VW.
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dsgb
This is a poor review. Traditional motoring journalists are fresh out of ideas. Who in real word cares about stiffness of the monocoque? Fully Charged has you guys licked for relevancy. The correct answer is that if you are not brand loyal, choose the Leaf if urban driving dominates your mix because of the excellent e-pedal feature. Choose the ID. 3 if you drive more on twisty extra urban routes or if you want a car that is newer and trendier. I like both. We currently lease a Leaf N-Connecta. Wise up guys.
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This is a poor review. Traditional motoring journalists are fresh out of ideas. Who in real word cares about stiffness of the monocoque? Fully Charged has you guys licked for relevancy. The correct answer is that if you are not brand loyal, choose the Leaf if urban driving dominates your mix because of the excellent e-pedal feature. Choose the ID. 3 if you drive more on twisty extra urban routes or if you want a car that is newer and trendier. I like both. We currently lease a Leaf N-Connecta. Wise up guys.
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autos
Drove both, found the lack of seat adjustment and steering rear adjust in the leaf to be a serious issue. Plus the battery cooling issues. I had planned to buy a used leaf that was in a vw dealer but couldnt help but notice the id3. I ended up test driving it and immediately found the id3 far more comfortable and easier to drive. Kids loved the space and pana sunroof, i got a better deal and ended up buying the id3. Don't regret it one minute while i had concerns over buying the leaf.
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Drove both, found the lack of seat adjustment and steering rear adjust in the leaf to be a serious issue. Plus the battery cooling issues. I had planned to buy a used leaf that was in a vw dealer but couldnt help but notice the id3. I ended up test driving it and immediately found the id3 far more comfortable and easier to drive. Kids loved the space and pana sunroof, i got a better deal and ended up buying the id3. Don't regret it one minute while i had concerns over buying the leaf.
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computerbob06
Why did VW have to go all out with the ID3. because they screwed it up? Why not an E-Golf interior on the ID3 platform. Why not make all the plastics soft touch and lose 5 miles of range (say 245 instead of 250? Why a standalone infotainment system? Why haptic feedback buttons? And why the hell have a heat pump as an expensive option?
I was looking forward to the ID3, and yes it's the better car here, but its not as good as it should have been!
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Why did VW have to go all out with the ID3. because they screwed it up? Why not an E-Golf interior on the ID3 platform. Why not make all the plastics soft touch and lose 5 miles of range (say 245 instead of 250? Why a standalone infotainment system? Why haptic feedback buttons? And why the hell have a heat pump as an expensive option?
I was looking forward to the ID3, and yes it's the better car here, but its not as good as it should have been!
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Bruce
3 year 40kw Leaf lease coming to an end and been looking at the iD3, I wish there was a bit more of a clear winner. I had my naive hopes on the id3 being the -wundercar- answer. It looks good, but not without a few shortfalls. I-ve enjoyed the Leaf, bit dull, but dependable and comfortable, e-pedal excellent, responsiveness fine. Just the range I found limiting. I suspect a leaf+ or id3 is my best choice for next car, but it-s not a very big leap forward.
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3 year 40kw Leaf lease coming to an end and been looking at the iD3, I wish there was a bit more of a clear winner. I had my naive hopes on the id3 being the -wundercar- answer. It looks good, but not without a few shortfalls. I-ve enjoyed the Leaf, bit dull, but dependable and comfortable, e-pedal excellent, responsiveness fine. Just the range I found limiting. I suspect a leaf+ or id3 is my best choice for next car, but it-s not a very big leap forward.
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John
Few modern cars give you any excitement, especially on the motorway or the city stop/start commute, which is the purpose of most peoples purchase. If you want excitement you need to buy a Caterham 7 or Ariel Atom. The small cars you quoted are more lively, I have a Mini electric and that gives a fun feel, and I particularly liked the Mini keeping all those retro switches, it was totally in keeping with the car, and my wife understands them quickly.
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Few modern cars give you any excitement, especially on the motorway or the city stop/start commute, which is the purpose of most peoples purchase. If you want excitement you need to buy a Caterham 7 or Ariel Atom. The small cars you quoted are more lively, I have a Mini electric and that gives a fun feel, and I particularly liked the Mini keeping all those retro switches, it was totally in keeping with the car, and my wife understands them quickly.
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Gon-alo
What a disappointment. The leaf has a lot of compromises for sure to cut production costs, it's not because of some idea that revolution has to look weird. But the performance issue is because you're driving in eco mode. Have you tried driving it in non eco mode? Pretty sad. You set the mood of the leaf review based on the slow throttle response without referring to eco mode. Someone has an agenda here.
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What a disappointment. The leaf has a lot of compromises for sure to cut production costs, it's not because of some idea that revolution has to look weird. But the performance issue is because you're driving in eco mode. Have you tried driving it in non eco mode? Pretty sad. You set the mood of the leaf review based on the slow throttle response without referring to eco mode. Someone has an agenda here.
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Patrick
I bought the Nissan Leaf e+ tekna, it's a lovely car in many ways. but the seating gives no support, and the lack of reach adjustment on the steering column renders the car pretty useless for me. Unfortunately my move to electric has resulted in me having to drive my wife's diesel on any journeys longer than 20miles. When the pain of sitting in the car kicks in. Sad really
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I bought the Nissan Leaf e+ tekna, it's a lovely car in many ways. but the seating gives no support, and the lack of reach adjustment on the steering column renders the car pretty useless for me. Unfortunately my move to electric has resulted in me having to drive my wife's diesel on any journeys longer than 20miles. When the pain of sitting in the car kicks in. Sad really
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Wills
I hope these 'professional' test drivers are sacked. Neither mention the 'elephant in the room' totally outdated Nissan battery charging socket or compare battery heating/cooling. None mention boot space, suitability of headlights, seat comfort, navigation, cruise control, sound system quality, ease of fitting child seats or pre-heating the vehicles either!
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I hope these 'professional' test drivers are sacked. Neither mention the 'elephant in the room' totally outdated Nissan battery charging socket or compare battery heating/cooling. None mention boot space, suitability of headlights, seat comfort, navigation, cruise control, sound system quality, ease of fitting child seats or pre-heating the vehicles either!
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