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Which Triceps Pushdown is Best for Your Triceps (IT MATTERS)

Which Triceps Pushdown is Best for Your Triceps (IT MATTERS)

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m going to answer the popular question of whether the overhand or underhand grip on the straight bar is better for building up the size of the triceps when training this sizable arm muscle. Now, there are many more variations of pushdowns and exercises for triceps than just those that can be done with the straight bar. There are different shape handles that are made specifically to attempt to improve the biomechanics of the triceps exercise, there are rope pushdowns and there are even single armed versions. Here we are limiting the discussion to the grip difference of overhand or underhand when using the common straight bar. Well, you-ve likely read or heard somewhere (maybe even on this channel, that the act of supination and pronation at the forearm have no influence on the contraction of the triceps. This is one hundred percent true. With the attachment of the common triceps tendon occurring on the olecranon rather than the radius, it is not influenced at all by movement of the forearm. At least not directly. That is the big caveat and why you need to pay close attention to the content of this video. Because the body operates as one kinetic chain, there does turn out to be an impact on the function and performance of the triceps and the overall recruitment of the muscle depending on whether you are in supination or pronation at the forearm. How does this happen? Let-s analyze. First, with an overhand or palms down grip, you are going to get some drifting of the elbow away from the body. This happens for two reasons. Most importantly, due to a limitation in the amount of pronation range of motion we have and the inability to get pronated so much as to flatten the wrist and reach a position parallel to the bar you-re grabbing, you will have to flare the elbow out and internally rotate the shoulder to adapt the hand to better grip the bar. Second, because the shoulder and elbow are connected, movement of the arm at one joint is going to impact the position of the arm at a different point (in this case the elbow. Hence, the flaring of the elbow is unavoidable since the shoulder internal rotation is determining what is happening at the elbow. To see just how impactful this is on the triceps you need to understand the anatomy of the muscle group. The triceps is comprised of three heads. The medial, lateral and long head. The medial and lateral do not cross the shoulder and only are influenced by extension (or lack thereof) at the elbow. The long head however is influenced by the position of the arm in relation to the torso. The further back behind the body you can get your arm and the tighter to your side you can keep it, the more fully contracted you are going to be able to make the long head of the triceps. With hypertrophy and peak tension the goal of deciding the better version of the triceps pushdown here it should be very clear that the one that maximizes the tension on all three heads of the triceps the best is going to be the winner. This is where the underhand pushdown shines. Flipping to an underhand grip adducts the elbow into the side and allows
Date: 2022-04-22

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I don't mind the single handed reverse grip pulldowns but doing it with the bar makes my shoulder pop and elbow sore. I got a bit of tennis elbow from all the lateral raises I've been doing lately and even the single handed reverse grip irritates it so I've stuck with the regular palm down version for now. I hate doing cross overs for chest or rear delts or these pulldowns as the cables catch on each other or I bash my knuckles. single handed works much better, only down side is it takes a little longer. then again that not an issue for me as I don't use my phone for 3/4 of the workout like most seem to these days. Is there a variation of the tricep pulldown that doesn't irritate tennis elbow or would I have to stick with pushdowns instead?
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Another awesome video, and the shoulder flexion/internal rotation/forward lean makes tons of sense. Super obvious once you pointed it out. Thank you!
Future video question/suggestion: grip strength for overhead pulling while palms are facing each other. Like when climbing a rope, why do I have less grip strength than when I'm pulling on a bar, especially at the top(arms fully extended) part of the pull? Is this some weird end range strength thing, or anatomical disadvantage?

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Jeff this is Killer! I-ve been following you for 1 1/2 years now and you never cease to amaze me. Just when I thought I-ve learned everything you have to teach you teach me something else, and I-ve been at this game for over 34 years. Keep up the great work Jeff you-re awesome dude! - You truly make training a joy to do-although I-ve cursed you out many times for all the muscle pain you brought me lol, however the results I-ve seen are very impressive. Thank you for what you do!
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Of course I read the body building magazines which is how I got to know about the different exercises, but the reverse grip tricep curl always felt so good when isolating the muscle. And, conversely when I did the regular bar curl I always felt my chest and shoulders being activated.
The one thing about those reverse cable tricep pulls though is that it requires pretty good posterior chain muscles to stabilise the shoulder.

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Hard to find ways to workout when your shoulder is permanently fuc--- up. Used to do bench press, dips, db flyes, close grip bench press (sometimes incline) and skull crushers on one day (home workout so no machines) and pull-ups, barbell rows, curls for back and biceps another, out of those the only exercises i can do now is curls and rows + dips as long as i don't go too low.
Triceps pushdown tho could maybe work

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I've done this unilaterally. The contraction is nothing short of mind boggling. In the bottom third of the movement, I twist my wrist just a little extra and by the next day I experience a sore-gasm. Also, I tweaked dumbbell kickbacks to the point where even after all these years, I can barely finish a set of ten with a 15lb bell. And I'm not a little man. I weigh close to 270. It's beautiful torture.
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Found these videos 2 days ago. Because of injuries, I am usually pretty skeptical about these types of videos. THANK YOU! You are in my gym list, with 1 other. Your videos aren't do this and not this. You explain why, and the reasoning behind it. I am very limited on what I can do. I feel your videos well really help. Looking forward to trying some. Thank you and keep it up.
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I always use a handle with a slight V-shape to be able to keep my elbows to my sides and shoulders neutral and it works just fine. I find a supinated grip to be really, really uncomfortable for my hands and wrists if I'm to use enough weight. I don't believe in making things more difficult than they need to be, that's what different handle shapes are for. Am I wrong?
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Reverse triceps pushdowns are best done one arm at a time using a stirrup handle as that allows one to get their arm back behind their body for a full contraction. And if you want to do two-arm palms-down pushdowns then you simply need to use a cambered bar cable attachment to keep your elbows tucked in. Jeff isn't showing the best version of either exercise here.
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All you have to is do 100 on push downs in each grip you see that a reverse grip push down leans more on the internal head and prorated grip hits all three heads. This has been and will always be true. I have been a trainer since the 70s and the nautilus tri machines bear this out also
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