Steam Deck Proof Of Linux Rise And Windows Decline DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Christopher
I think the main issue is people from the Linux community are looking at the Steam Deck like it is going to solve problems it actually doesn't intend to. They're hand-me down solutions. People are also over-looking the fact that Phil Spencer has been spending a loooot of time lately interacting with Gabe and Steam directly recently. Especially the fact the developers of the steam deck keep pushing the point you can boot Windows on the Deck. Or the fact there's been a lot of insider ARM64 Windows 11 builds etc being pushed to Insiders. The Steam Deck is never going to contend with the switch. Nintendo is too large. It can't compete on pricing either. The general user doesn't care what the underlying OS on a handheld gaming device is. Most sony fanboys don't even know Sony uses their own build of BSD on their consoles. Every year it is the same thing -its the year of Linux- it never comes and people gotta take of the rose tinted glasses eventually.
Predictions= We get more Windows 11 devices built across all price brackets to flood the market with ARM based Windows 11 devices. From top to bottom. AMD and Nvidia have patents around ARM cores with their gpu cores on the same SOC. AMD even has x86 and ARM core patents on the same soc. Then I doubt we will see any major broad adoption of Linux as I noted before the general market does not and will not care about the OS on the steam deck (out of sight out of mind). This is something people interested in tech enough to know about Linux over-look is the fact most people don't care to know as long as it works.
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I think the main issue is people from the Linux community are looking at the Steam Deck like it is going to solve problems it actually doesn't intend to. They're hand-me down solutions. People are also over-looking the fact that Phil Spencer has been spending a loooot of time lately interacting with Gabe and Steam directly recently. Especially the fact the developers of the steam deck keep pushing the point you can boot Windows on the Deck. Or the fact there's been a lot of insider ARM64 Windows 11 builds etc being pushed to Insiders. The Steam Deck is never going to contend with the switch. Nintendo is too large. It can't compete on pricing either. The general user doesn't care what the underlying OS on a handheld gaming device is. Most sony fanboys don't even know Sony uses their own build of BSD on their consoles. Every year it is the same thing -its the year of Linux- it never comes and people gotta take of the rose tinted glasses eventually.
Predictions= We get more Windows 11 devices built across all price brackets to flood the market with ARM based Windows 11 devices. From top to bottom. AMD and Nvidia have patents around ARM cores with their gpu cores on the same SOC. AMD even has x86 and ARM core patents on the same soc. Then I doubt we will see any major broad adoption of Linux as I noted before the general market does not and will not care about the OS on the steam deck (out of sight out of mind). This is something people interested in tech enough to know about Linux over-look is the fact most people don't care to know as long as it works.
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TheMightyQuinn
I see the same patterns that were happening when AMD surpassed Intel. Microsoft seems to have become complacent, and isn't actually pushing any major technologies forward. Linux, meanwhile, continues to live on the bleeding edge. First, Linux was better at programming and directly computer-related work. Now, it's spreading to potentially be the best choice for gaming. It seems like a lot of the enthusiasts are starting to realize Linux' merits, and will start recommending it to their less tech-savvy friends. The breaking point, however, will be when major SIs and OEMs start to offer Linux preinstalled on their mainstream computer models. Just like how most people don't know the difference between AMD and Intel, most people don't actually know or care what Linux is, and won't want to put in the effort to install it themselves. Unless a -major- OEM starts to offer Linux preinstalled on their computers, I honestly don't think most desktop users will care. Either way, I think this is a huge step in the right direction.
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I see the same patterns that were happening when AMD surpassed Intel. Microsoft seems to have become complacent, and isn't actually pushing any major technologies forward. Linux, meanwhile, continues to live on the bleeding edge. First, Linux was better at programming and directly computer-related work. Now, it's spreading to potentially be the best choice for gaming. It seems like a lot of the enthusiasts are starting to realize Linux' merits, and will start recommending it to their less tech-savvy friends. The breaking point, however, will be when major SIs and OEMs start to offer Linux preinstalled on their mainstream computer models. Just like how most people don't know the difference between AMD and Intel, most people don't actually know or care what Linux is, and won't want to put in the effort to install it themselves. Unless a -major- OEM starts to offer Linux preinstalled on their computers, I honestly don't think most desktop users will care. Either way, I think this is a huge step in the right direction.
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Amrish
Apache OpenOffice also has Linux versions as well. Which is what I've been using for years, after ditching Microsoft Office & its completely free too! :)
I'll keep my eye out of SteamOS 3.0 between now & when Microsoft stop support for Win 10 on 14 October 2025.
I'm hopeful that by then, that the perpetual licences I own for professional software like Clip Studio Paint Pro Zbrush & Affinity Photo become viable on SteamOS 3.0
Plus be able to use the latest Huion drivers for my Huion Kamvas Pro Plus 16(4K) pen display tablet.
Only then I'll make the switch to Linux via SteamOS 3.0. Until then I'll stick to Win10 until support ends in 2025. :)
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Apache OpenOffice also has Linux versions as well. Which is what I've been using for years, after ditching Microsoft Office & its completely free too! :)
I'll keep my eye out of SteamOS 3.0 between now & when Microsoft stop support for Win 10 on 14 October 2025.
I'm hopeful that by then, that the perpetual licences I own for professional software like Clip Studio Paint Pro Zbrush & Affinity Photo become viable on SteamOS 3.0
Plus be able to use the latest Huion drivers for my Huion Kamvas Pro Plus 16(4K) pen display tablet.
Only then I'll make the switch to Linux via SteamOS 3.0. Until then I'll stick to Win10 until support ends in 2025. :)
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Kazuki
By the end of the year I'll have a PC set up with Arch and an Apple M1 Mac mini as my main production machine because I'd rather support Apple over Microsoft. Workflow is just better on a Mac for me. No drivers, no annoying installations, no digging through the system files to see where the hell my VST plugins are. I've managed to get GOG Galaxy 2.0 working on Linux with Lutris and it's fine but I'd rather see them do an official Linux client to eliminate the overhead of emulation.
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By the end of the year I'll have a PC set up with Arch and an Apple M1 Mac mini as my main production machine because I'd rather support Apple over Microsoft. Workflow is just better on a Mac for me. No drivers, no annoying installations, no digging through the system files to see where the hell my VST plugins are. I've managed to get GOG Galaxy 2.0 working on Linux with Lutris and it's fine but I'd rather see them do an official Linux client to eliminate the overhead of emulation.
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Rob
I need to add the audio world people like myself. I-m into music production and none of the software I use works on Linux like Universal Audio Luna, Pro Tools, Studio One, Logic Pro. If pro tools doesn-t work than you-re not getting a lot of work and that-s a no go. So I have to stick with Mac OS for music and other tasks and when the market share grows and developers start writing their software for Linux then I-ll have all of my computers running Linux.
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I need to add the audio world people like myself. I-m into music production and none of the software I use works on Linux like Universal Audio Luna, Pro Tools, Studio One, Logic Pro. If pro tools doesn-t work than you-re not getting a lot of work and that-s a no go. So I have to stick with Mac OS for music and other tasks and when the market share grows and developers start writing their software for Linux then I-ll have all of my computers running Linux.
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Wendigo
I do hope that steam deck will become both best seller hand held gaming device and portable PC at the same time, that will be a huge incentive for a lot of developers to make sure their programs is compatible with Linux and slowly but surely ends the argument of software compatibility on Linux. About time honestly. I couldn't be more happier when I heard that steam deck is a portable PC that is using Linux.
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I do hope that steam deck will become both best seller hand held gaming device and portable PC at the same time, that will be a huge incentive for a lot of developers to make sure their programs is compatible with Linux and slowly but surely ends the argument of software compatibility on Linux. About time honestly. I couldn't be more happier when I heard that steam deck is a portable PC that is using Linux.
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King
I would calm my tits for now. Valve still needs to prove they can properly do hardware. Even if the Steam Deck sells well, everything will be run through proton, not native, and it will be an afterthought.
It will be a slow process and Valve will need to put in a huge amount of effort over a long time.
Having said that, linux community will definitely profit from it.
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I would calm my tits for now. Valve still needs to prove they can properly do hardware. Even if the Steam Deck sells well, everything will be run through proton, not native, and it will be an afterthought.
It will be a slow process and Valve will need to put in a huge amount of effort over a long time.
Having said that, linux community will definitely profit from it.
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AshnSilvercorp
Windows 11 is one of the strong reasons I'm building a Linux PC. It looks horrid. Windows 10 on paper was ok, but it had so many botches it was just a hassle on launch and subsequent releases. That and I don't want a task manger full of COM surrogates and telemetry sitting there loaded ready to do nothing of assistance to me...
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Windows 11 is one of the strong reasons I'm building a Linux PC. It looks horrid. Windows 10 on paper was ok, but it had so many botches it was just a hassle on launch and subsequent releases. That and I don't want a task manger full of COM surrogates and telemetry sitting there loaded ready to do nothing of assistance to me...
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Boethius
There are still compatible hardware problems for Linux, for example i have a MacBook that I tried Linux on but the speakers did not work at all. Don't get me wrong I would be running Linux right now if this was not an issue. Another issue is touchscreen compatibility for things like the surface pro for example
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There are still compatible hardware problems for Linux, for example i have a MacBook that I tried Linux on but the speakers did not work at all. Don't get me wrong I would be running Linux right now if this was not an issue. Another issue is touchscreen compatibility for things like the surface pro for example
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Shane
1.) Linux was viable as an X-Server long before you knew of Ubuntu, it sounds like. ..... 2.) -Youre never gana get a game that runs on Windows to run on Linux- - - SEE Running With Scissors. THEY made their game, Postal 2, to run on Linux with the same files except that EXE that becomes a BIN instead.
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1.) Linux was viable as an X-Server long before you knew of Ubuntu, it sounds like. ..... 2.) -Youre never gana get a game that runs on Windows to run on Linux- - - SEE Running With Scissors. THEY made their game, Postal 2, to run on Linux with the same files except that EXE that becomes a BIN instead.
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