Ubuntu vs Debian - Chris Titus Tech
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2. If the wifi card does not work out of the box, that-s the wifi card-s manufacturer-s fault, not Debian-s. Just don-t buy crappy hardware.
3. If a Distribution includes proprietary software like Ubuntu does, this is very disrespectful towards the user. Especially towards a beginner.
4. The non-free repository maintained by the Debian community is not a part of Debian nor a version of Debian. It-s just there to make crappy hardware work at the expense of the user-s freedom. The user needs to actively opt in, because this is a dangerous step, and you should be aware of the risks.
5. -Debian non-free- is not fantastic. It-s a trade-off.
Date: 2022-03-21
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Ben
_I followed you from Windows, I followed you to Ubuntu_
_We didn't find it there so we moved on_
_Then I went with you to Murdock's Land_
_Things looked good in Debian . . ._
_-- My Elusive Dreams (Sherrill/Putman, 1967)_
Getting it in like you did is easy. But there's a shoal of handy stuff missing - and no obvious way to implant some of it. Like Gnome Settings are missing the Appearance options that control screen icon size, favorites placement, etc. Display Settings won't allow 5:4 screen ratio -and- 60 Hz refresh. The output sound is fuzzy and so is the screen images ... display manager out to lunch ? I'm surprised that Debian hasn't -iwd- as a WiFi daemon by now as it's out a couple of years. I notice that Ubuntu package -wpa_supplicant- is renamed -wpasupplicant- in Debian - whose freckin idea was that ? Does configuration of Debian really take 3 hours like your video ? Man, that's long !
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_I followed you from Windows, I followed you to Ubuntu_
_We didn't find it there so we moved on_
_Then I went with you to Murdock's Land_
_Things looked good in Debian . . ._
_-- My Elusive Dreams (Sherrill/Putman, 1967)_
Getting it in like you did is easy. But there's a shoal of handy stuff missing - and no obvious way to implant some of it. Like Gnome Settings are missing the Appearance options that control screen icon size, favorites placement, etc. Display Settings won't allow 5:4 screen ratio -and- 60 Hz refresh. The output sound is fuzzy and so is the screen images ... display manager out to lunch ? I'm surprised that Debian hasn't -iwd- as a WiFi daemon by now as it's out a couple of years. I notice that Ubuntu package -wpa_supplicant- is renamed -wpasupplicant- in Debian - whose freckin idea was that ? Does configuration of Debian really take 3 hours like your video ? Man, that's long !
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Graham
I've been using Ubuntu for around 15 years now on my personal and work computers (Desktop and Server at work) and I'm very happy with it, for personal use and development. I've had no stability issues and it's fast. I'd rather have the -bloat- and an easy to set up system that have to spend a lot of time setting things up. Even though I consider myself a fairly experienced Linux user, I doubt I would switch. The convenience, familiarity and the fact I haven't had any problems (except those I've caused myself) outweighs everything else for me. I guess the choice of distribution varies between person and it's often quite sticky. I just wanted to put it out there that it's not only beginners using Ubuntu. I wouldn't say its just marketed as the -beginners OS- either, I guess there are many experienced Linux users using Ubuntu as their daily driver.
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I've been using Ubuntu for around 15 years now on my personal and work computers (Desktop and Server at work) and I'm very happy with it, for personal use and development. I've had no stability issues and it's fast. I'd rather have the -bloat- and an easy to set up system that have to spend a lot of time setting things up. Even though I consider myself a fairly experienced Linux user, I doubt I would switch. The convenience, familiarity and the fact I haven't had any problems (except those I've caused myself) outweighs everything else for me. I guess the choice of distribution varies between person and it's often quite sticky. I just wanted to put it out there that it's not only beginners using Ubuntu. I wouldn't say its just marketed as the -beginners OS- either, I guess there are many experienced Linux users using Ubuntu as their daily driver.
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Nejat
I feel that Debian is like our Mammies.
They love us.
They want us to be good people und have success.
Of course we don-t hear to them so much when we-re young.
Of course we try out all the forbidden things. But we have that feeling that our Mam is the best Person in the world. We know, we can trust her.
And believe me, after having done all the bad things you allways come back to Mama and are the most happy person in the world an start living your live without wasting your time with unproductive things.
Debian, thank you so much!
And with -Debian- I mean all the involved people in the Community of course.
And with forbidden things I mean breaking the system again and again and trying one distro after the other :-)
Peace be with you
SELAMU ALEYKUM
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I feel that Debian is like our Mammies.
They love us.
They want us to be good people und have success.
Of course we don-t hear to them so much when we-re young.
Of course we try out all the forbidden things. But we have that feeling that our Mam is the best Person in the world. We know, we can trust her.
And believe me, after having done all the bad things you allways come back to Mama and are the most happy person in the world an start living your live without wasting your time with unproductive things.
Debian, thank you so much!
And with -Debian- I mean all the involved people in the Community of course.
And with forbidden things I mean breaking the system again and again and trying one distro after the other :-)
Peace be with you
SELAMU ALEYKUM
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Mitchel
For people new to Linux, -Free Software- does not refer to price. It refers to software that is open source and also adheres to the 4 software freedoms as outlined by the Free Software Foundation. It-s also known as libre software or FOSS. Free software is not necessarily gratis. It may be sold for profit, and some companies like Red Hat, build profitable businesses around Free Software. It-s different from public domain software and standard open-source software. Free and open-source software exists in contrast to proprietary software, which is closed source. Debian ships only Free Software by default; however, proprietary, closed-source software repositories are available.
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For people new to Linux, -Free Software- does not refer to price. It refers to software that is open source and also adheres to the 4 software freedoms as outlined by the Free Software Foundation. It-s also known as libre software or FOSS. Free software is not necessarily gratis. It may be sold for profit, and some companies like Red Hat, build profitable businesses around Free Software. It-s different from public domain software and standard open-source software. Free and open-source software exists in contrast to proprietary software, which is closed source. Debian ships only Free Software by default; however, proprietary, closed-source software repositories are available.
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AGPMandavel
I swapped most of my computers to Linux this past year, and about to swap more. Debian was my choice to start out on after much research and A/B comparisons, and I chose it specifically because it could be customized to hell and back, it could be a bare minimum install, and I could choose exactly what I wanted on it. It didn-t take me too long to figure out after a few mistakes (though I always back up my important data so no loss, I just reinstall the OS) and now it-s my OS of choice. I too have been in the stable branch since the start, but I just found out I may need to push to Sid to make a few things work, so onto my next adventure. Good vid man.
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I swapped most of my computers to Linux this past year, and about to swap more. Debian was my choice to start out on after much research and A/B comparisons, and I chose it specifically because it could be customized to hell and back, it could be a bare minimum install, and I could choose exactly what I wanted on it. It didn-t take me too long to figure out after a few mistakes (though I always back up my important data so no loss, I just reinstall the OS) and now it-s my OS of choice. I too have been in the stable branch since the start, but I just found out I may need to push to Sid to make a few things work, so onto my next adventure. Good vid man.
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John
Chris, Your discussion of the Debian installation process starts at video time T=9:11, which seems appropriate, given the long length of the official Debian Installation Guide. I had been searching for quite some time to find out how to install the necessary wifi driver firmware. Your video got me right where I needed to be and facilitated my installation of Debian 10.7 Buster. Many thanks.
Sorry folks, I'm old. I get confused. I messed up here.
This comment was meant for Chris' video titled Debian 10 Buster Release and Install.
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Chris, Your discussion of the Debian installation process starts at video time T=9:11, which seems appropriate, given the long length of the official Debian Installation Guide. I had been searching for quite some time to find out how to install the necessary wifi driver firmware. Your video got me right where I needed to be and facilitated my installation of Debian 10.7 Buster. Many thanks.
Sorry folks, I'm old. I get confused. I messed up here.
This comment was meant for Chris' video titled Debian 10 Buster Release and Install.
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mamamia88
Why not just install stable and then update a few end user apps? I mean does the core functionality of an app change with each version? Not really. Just give me security patches and update my browser on a regular basis. But, ubuntu is pretty stable nowadays and timeshift exists so I don't see the benefit of playing it too safe when I could just upgrade once a week or so and roll it back quickly if anything major breaks
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Why not just install stable and then update a few end user apps? I mean does the core functionality of an app change with each version? Not really. Just give me security patches and update my browser on a regular basis. But, ubuntu is pretty stable nowadays and timeshift exists so I don't see the benefit of playing it too safe when I could just upgrade once a week or so and roll it back quickly if anything major breaks
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John
Chris,
I have watched this video 3 times. Your video is very helpful about putting the subtle differences between Debian and Ubuntu into perspective. A key take-home point about Debian is that Debian intentionally uses older, proven, rock-solid software to provide Debian's 'stable' distribution.
Thanks, again.
Tom
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Chris,
I have watched this video 3 times. Your video is very helpful about putting the subtle differences between Debian and Ubuntu into perspective. A key take-home point about Debian is that Debian intentionally uses older, proven, rock-solid software to provide Debian's 'stable' distribution.
Thanks, again.
Tom
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