Intel Arc Battlemage B580 & B570 GPU Specs, Price, & Release Date
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Date: 2024-12-05
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anhiirr
idk why/how comparing a 250$ NEW release to an older 300$ gpu even matters when the used market has them lower...and 6700/6750xt are also found at a good price used, hell ive seen 6800-6800xt and 3070s at 300$ range. Most buyers with enough psu and cpu power can do MUCH better on the second hand market esp if they have a flourishing/local used market from USDM to a GLOBAL level. FSR3 and FMF2 as well with those rdna2 cards. Or FSR 3 with a frame gen mod with nv cards like a used 4060. Hard to consider perhaps if Microcenter added an EVEN MORE mark down factor when bundled given their current 299$ 265k markdown and -70$ for a z890 like a 180$ gigabyte gaming per ex. If they were like -50$ for adding an intel B580 it would sweeten the deal and offer someone a TODAY solution for saving/waiting for the dust to settle on the 8800xt and 5070 range of cards to be tested-full features expressed towards selling the b580 and upgrading to a full out AAA capable gpu. That would be pretty awesome. And great for builders aware of their cost/flexibility and used market/shifts after the rdna4/5000 series launch equally as well.
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idk why/how comparing a 250$ NEW release to an older 300$ gpu even matters when the used market has them lower...and 6700/6750xt are also found at a good price used, hell ive seen 6800-6800xt and 3070s at 300$ range. Most buyers with enough psu and cpu power can do MUCH better on the second hand market esp if they have a flourishing/local used market from USDM to a GLOBAL level. FSR3 and FMF2 as well with those rdna2 cards. Or FSR 3 with a frame gen mod with nv cards like a used 4060. Hard to consider perhaps if Microcenter added an EVEN MORE mark down factor when bundled given their current 299$ 265k markdown and -70$ for a z890 like a 180$ gigabyte gaming per ex. If they were like -50$ for adding an intel B580 it would sweeten the deal and offer someone a TODAY solution for saving/waiting for the dust to settle on the 8800xt and 5070 range of cards to be tested-full features expressed towards selling the b580 and upgrading to a full out AAA capable gpu. That would be pretty awesome. And great for builders aware of their cost/flexibility and used market/shifts after the rdna4/5000 series launch equally as well.
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ModernOddity728
With that pricing, Intel is REALLY trying to gun for that low-lower mid range GPU performance segment at actual entry-level prices. I can imagine they are hoping this will scrape up a bunch more of the budget build DIY market or situations where the aim isn't to play above 1440p 60FPS, and expect to lower settings for new and processing-intensive open world games like Dragon's Dogma 2 and Elden Ring and such.
But if the drivers are solid at launch and reviews hold, I can see this selling quite a bit more than Alchemist did, but probably not denting Nvidia or AMD in the GPU mindshare. Honestly, that's to be expected though. If Battlemage proves to be good value and a reliable product then picks up sales in turn, that will be much needed relief for the raging dumpster fire that Intel made of themselves. Though, I bet they wouldn't have gone so competitive with the pricing on Battlemage if Pat hadn't gone and pissed off TSMC for what he said, otherwise we'd probably see more competitive Arrow Lake prices and less competitive Battlemage prices.
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With that pricing, Intel is REALLY trying to gun for that low-lower mid range GPU performance segment at actual entry-level prices. I can imagine they are hoping this will scrape up a bunch more of the budget build DIY market or situations where the aim isn't to play above 1440p 60FPS, and expect to lower settings for new and processing-intensive open world games like Dragon's Dogma 2 and Elden Ring and such.
But if the drivers are solid at launch and reviews hold, I can see this selling quite a bit more than Alchemist did, but probably not denting Nvidia or AMD in the GPU mindshare. Honestly, that's to be expected though. If Battlemage proves to be good value and a reliable product then picks up sales in turn, that will be much needed relief for the raging dumpster fire that Intel made of themselves. Though, I bet they wouldn't have gone so competitive with the pricing on Battlemage if Pat hadn't gone and pissed off TSMC for what he said, otherwise we'd probably see more competitive Arrow Lake prices and less competitive Battlemage prices.
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rocksfire4390
cool but rt at these low end cards levels of performance is pointless unless you enjoy a slideshow of 30 fps locked.
the great thing about these cards is the amount of vram they come with, great choice on their part. they are certainly trying to nab the low end and at those prices that seems very likely.
also most of the market share nvidia has is low/mid range, Intel and AMD are correct in staring at that price because it's just there for the taking if they get the price to performance correct. soo many people are whining about prices that all they need is a great gpu that's affordable and they would dominate. however they also need to insert themselves into prebuilt computers because that's the vast majority of the market (it's how nivida has such a massive share of the market).
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cool but rt at these low end cards levels of performance is pointless unless you enjoy a slideshow of 30 fps locked.
the great thing about these cards is the amount of vram they come with, great choice on their part. they are certainly trying to nab the low end and at those prices that seems very likely.
also most of the market share nvidia has is low/mid range, Intel and AMD are correct in staring at that price because it's just there for the taking if they get the price to performance correct. soo many people are whining about prices that all they need is a great gpu that's affordable and they would dominate. however they also need to insert themselves into prebuilt computers because that's the vast majority of the market (it's how nivida has such a massive share of the market).
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dont99know
This is awesome, a GPU for the average gamer at a great price. I just hope they are not out of stock frequently. I'll be curious how it works in a x99 build I have that does have resizable bar in the BIOS. Will the PCIe 4.0 x8 be a problem for a 3.0 slot is my question. Possibly the ultimate budget build or maybe a 12400 12600k/f paired with it is even better for not much more, guess we'll see.
I have high hopes. We also can't forget how good the media engine has been for Arc which I'm assuming will still be great. Finally can have the best of both worlds with an AV1 capable GPU and good gaming performance with out of the box compatibility.
Don't fail us Intel! Great video and overview GN!
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This is awesome, a GPU for the average gamer at a great price. I just hope they are not out of stock frequently. I'll be curious how it works in a x99 build I have that does have resizable bar in the BIOS. Will the PCIe 4.0 x8 be a problem for a 3.0 slot is my question. Possibly the ultimate budget build or maybe a 12400 12600k/f paired with it is even better for not much more, guess we'll see.
I have high hopes. We also can't forget how good the media engine has been for Arc which I'm assuming will still be great. Finally can have the best of both worlds with an AV1 capable GPU and good gaming performance with out of the box compatibility.
Don't fail us Intel! Great video and overview GN!
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oM477o
Is it too much to ask for a GPU with lots of vram I like to tinker with large machine learning models but most of them don't fit in 12GB or they fit but only for inference and not for training. If intel made an affordable card with 32GB VRAM I'd buy it in a heartbeat. NVIDIA already makes affordable 12GB cards and if you want more you're forced to get an expensive 90 series or workstation card which cost several thousand dollars. NVIDIA is stingy on the VRAM to force AI developers to buy expensive enterprise cards. A cheap consumer card with lots of VRAM would be a hit with AI hobbyists and Intel wouldn't need to worry about cannibalizing their own enterprise GPU segment since they don't have one.
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Is it too much to ask for a GPU with lots of vram I like to tinker with large machine learning models but most of them don't fit in 12GB or they fit but only for inference and not for training. If intel made an affordable card with 32GB VRAM I'd buy it in a heartbeat. NVIDIA already makes affordable 12GB cards and if you want more you're forced to get an expensive 90 series or workstation card which cost several thousand dollars. NVIDIA is stingy on the VRAM to force AI developers to buy expensive enterprise cards. A cheap consumer card with lots of VRAM would be a hit with AI hobbyists and Intel wouldn't need to worry about cannibalizing their own enterprise GPU segment since they don't have one.
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K31TH3R
I want Intel to succeed. But as someone who hasn't bought a new nVidia GPU for almost 20 years, and as someone who owned a Radeon 5700 XT at launch, AMD has exhausted my capacity and desire to contribute to sustaining another underdog. I will not be one of the people doing unpaid beta testing for Intel, and I can only hope for the people who will, that Intel does a better job taking your advice than AMD has done taking the advice from it's most dedicated Radeon users.
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I want Intel to succeed. But as someone who hasn't bought a new nVidia GPU for almost 20 years, and as someone who owned a Radeon 5700 XT at launch, AMD has exhausted my capacity and desire to contribute to sustaining another underdog. I will not be one of the people doing unpaid beta testing for Intel, and I can only hope for the people who will, that Intel does a better job taking your advice than AMD has done taking the advice from it's most dedicated Radeon users.
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MikeD1101a
I just bought a '2nd' pc for the basement, bargain bin Victus desktop that will be used at most for light gaming. Comes with the Arc 370, will be hooked up to a 1080p monitor. I'll be very intersested in buying one of these when they are released (probably the B570), and the one good thing about the computer is a 500w power suupply.
Not trying to match my main gaming computer, but for fun, to see how this thing does.
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I just bought a '2nd' pc for the basement, bargain bin Victus desktop that will be used at most for light gaming. Comes with the Arc 370, will be hooked up to a 1080p monitor. I'll be very intersested in buying one of these when they are released (probably the B570), and the one good thing about the computer is a 500w power suupply.
Not trying to match my main gaming computer, but for fun, to see how this thing does.
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ethosterros9430
Ive been looking into amd recently for both cpu and cpu. Seems like intel and nvidia has been slipping. Geforce cards are still good but their prices are ridiculous. Is it becoming a better play to try an intel gpu and an amd cpu these days I just want affordable quality gameplay without feeling cheated. I wanted to get a computer this black friday but the sales all felt like a scam to me. Maybe I hold off for summer.
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Ive been looking into amd recently for both cpu and cpu. Seems like intel and nvidia has been slipping. Geforce cards are still good but their prices are ridiculous. Is it becoming a better play to try an intel gpu and an amd cpu these days I just want affordable quality gameplay without feeling cheated. I wanted to get a computer this black friday but the sales all felt like a scam to me. Maybe I hold off for summer.
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empath69
You're going at this all wrong; your PC is the balanced party - different components have different roles; CPU and GPU are both casters - GPU more for dps, and CPU for crowd control; coolers and fans are your tanks - drawing off heat (aggro) from other components; RAM and storage are your support, and finally PSU is your healer - managing the flow of life-giving energy to all. Intel's got their naming just right.
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You're going at this all wrong; your PC is the balanced party - different components have different roles; CPU and GPU are both casters - GPU more for dps, and CPU for crowd control; coolers and fans are your tanks - drawing off heat (aggro) from other components; RAM and storage are your support, and finally PSU is your healer - managing the flow of life-giving energy to all. Intel's got their naming just right.
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Chumly409
Anyone use any of these brands I've never used any of them and I've avoided names like Sparkle, Super Flower, or Giggle Puff intentionally. And no, don't go look for Giggle Puff...I'm pretty sure it's not a great result. I do remember back when OCZ PowerStream PSU's were around, I tested a Super Flower unit that came out really strong and I suggested they may be the same units with just another internal layout.
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Anyone use any of these brands I've never used any of them and I've avoided names like Sparkle, Super Flower, or Giggle Puff intentionally. And no, don't go look for Giggle Puff...I'm pretty sure it's not a great result. I do remember back when OCZ PowerStream PSU's were around, I tested a Super Flower unit that came out really strong and I suggested they may be the same units with just another internal layout.
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liamcollett4537
I got an A750 for my first ever PC build about 18 months ago and, while it has been testing at times, I would not have learned as much as I have about my PC and how to troubleshoot if I had gone for something else. The driver updates were always exciting and, I have to say, Intel's support has been amazing the entire time. I'm definitely considering upgrading to a B580 if the reviews are good.
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I got an A750 for my first ever PC build about 18 months ago and, while it has been testing at times, I would not have learned as much as I have about my PC and how to troubleshoot if I had gone for something else. The driver updates were always exciting and, I have to say, Intel's support has been amazing the entire time. I'm definitely considering upgrading to a B580 if the reviews are good.
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LanceNotHiding
Alchemist matured well enough for its use and pricing. And for the price, make great Low Profile chipsets. As I used an A380 LP in a side SFF case for a side build. I am excited to see Intel continuing to develop their gpus and cant wait to see what a 'real fighter' might look like (what would intel make with a 1000 dollar budget on a card) on paper for something to compete in the future.
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Alchemist matured well enough for its use and pricing. And for the price, make great Low Profile chipsets. As I used an A380 LP in a side SFF case for a side build. I am excited to see Intel continuing to develop their gpus and cant wait to see what a 'real fighter' might look like (what would intel make with a 1000 dollar budget on a card) on paper for something to compete in the future.
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Briannoger-j1w
This sure is looking extremely promising. I think by the time Celestial comes aorund Intel will have gotten the drivers up to speed for average consumers, and that will be the first line of truly competitive products. Really hoping AMDs promised RT improvements are real and not just marketing talk, otherwise they're gonna struggle having to compete with 2 companies in that niche.
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This sure is looking extremely promising. I think by the time Celestial comes aorund Intel will have gotten the drivers up to speed for average consumers, and that will be the first line of truly competitive products. Really hoping AMDs promised RT improvements are real and not just marketing talk, otherwise they're gonna struggle having to compete with 2 companies in that niche.
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nordvestgaming1238
This definitely has me intrigued, though I'm personally more interested in the what presumably will be the B7xx cards. If they are able to truly fix the driver issues and maintain the same level of price to performance with the B7xx cards as they claim they have with the B5xx cards then a PC with an AMD CPU and an Intel GPU may be in my future...
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This definitely has me intrigued, though I'm personally more interested in the what presumably will be the B7xx cards. If they are able to truly fix the driver issues and maintain the same level of price to performance with the B7xx cards as they claim they have with the B5xx cards then a PC with an AMD CPU and an Intel GPU may be in my future...
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Adrian-y1x
I appreciate Intel's effort, but we'll have to see how it goes against 5060. It is better than 4060 for same or lower price, but the 5000 series is just around the corner.. and if all goes as it always been, there will be at least 1.5 - 2x performance increase of 5060 over 4060 for about same price. But hey, I'm down to support Intel on this one...
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I appreciate Intel's effort, but we'll have to see how it goes against 5060. It is better than 4060 for same or lower price, but the 5000 series is just around the corner.. and if all goes as it always been, there will be at least 1.5 - 2x performance increase of 5060 over 4060 for about same price. But hey, I'm down to support Intel on this one...
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pinnacleexpress420
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LOUD COUGH
No meaningful limits Excuse me sir That sounds like the dumbest thing Ive EVER HEARD YOU SAY.
Youre a god, ok, but I clearly see a 20% max power limit increase on the next slide. My understanding is that the power limit (and cooling the thing to match, ofc) is the name of the game when it comes to GPU overclocking
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13:00
LOUD COUGH
No meaningful limits Excuse me sir That sounds like the dumbest thing Ive EVER HEARD YOU SAY.
Youre a god, ok, but I clearly see a 20% max power limit increase on the next slide. My understanding is that the power limit (and cooling the thing to match, ofc) is the name of the game when it comes to GPU overclocking
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MozzaBurger88
Funny how things go : Intel has fcked up big time in the CPU market but are making an interesting breakthrough on the GPU market. When AMD is basically opposite... Hopefully that AMD/Intel war can drive the low-to-mid end to a new level of affordable. Sad though for PC gaming that Nvidia is all alone up there ready to milk us to hell and back.
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Funny how things go : Intel has fcked up big time in the CPU market but are making an interesting breakthrough on the GPU market. When AMD is basically opposite... Hopefully that AMD/Intel war can drive the low-to-mid end to a new level of affordable. Sad though for PC gaming that Nvidia is all alone up there ready to milk us to hell and back.
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buriedbits6027
16:20. I believe this could ultimately disrupt NVIDIA, as AMD and Intel will need to advance their technologies to remain competitive. If these advancements begin to encroach on NVIDIA’s product line, NVIDIA may need to either innovate further or focus exclusively on the ultra-high-end market, where price is less of a concern.
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16:20. I believe this could ultimately disrupt NVIDIA, as AMD and Intel will need to advance their technologies to remain competitive. If these advancements begin to encroach on NVIDIA’s product line, NVIDIA may need to either innovate further or focus exclusively on the ultra-high-end market, where price is less of a concern.
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ShinichiKudoQatnip
Well, there was a lot less humour in this one than I expceted. But oh well, the last time I got a 200$ card was the rx480 and absolutely loved it, the specs don't seem to have changed much over the 8 years. But still it would be a good run down the memory lane when store shelves have something to offer us at a humble $200.
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Well, there was a lot less humour in this one than I expceted. But oh well, the last time I got a 200$ card was the rx480 and absolutely loved it, the specs don't seem to have changed much over the 8 years. But still it would be a good run down the memory lane when store shelves have something to offer us at a humble $200.
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nova290r
This might as well turn out interesting, I’m still rocking a now 8 year old 1080, mainly playing cyberpunk earning around 60 fps in high on 1080. I just want the game to look better and be able to play in 1440, a 220 GPU delivering that might be very attractive, and they’re only become more powerfully efficient as time goes pn
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This might as well turn out interesting, I’m still rocking a now 8 year old 1080, mainly playing cyberpunk earning around 60 fps in high on 1080. I just want the game to look better and be able to play in 1440, a 220 GPU delivering that might be very attractive, and they’re only become more powerfully efficient as time goes pn
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