HW News - AMD 5500X3D, Steam OS on ROG Ally, RTX 4070 VRAM Downgrade, AMD Vulnerability
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Date: 2024-08-20
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The_Chad_
Not being able to cancel a service really made me mad yesterday. I actually hate ATT fiber now, after loving them just 24 hours ago. I moved and had service at 2 places for a while while I finished moving. Setting up service for both addresses was so pleasant. I was quickly able to talkk with someone who spoke good English and didn't have to wait on hold. To end service on the other hand was a nightmare. I was on hold for almost an hour after already having them call me back an hour after I first called. The whole time I was on hold, the worst most distorted and staticy holding musiuc played, which must have been on purpose to get you to hang up. Then when I finally talked to someone, she tried everything to get me to keep the service AT THE OLD HOUSE that I don't live at anymore and will be demolished in a couple weeks. And to add to that, I said I wanted the mesh wifi in mt new house because it is so big, but they were like, oh no your router is fine for that sized house. Turns out it's not. So I tried to find the option for mesh on their app and website and couldn't find it. All I could find was one wifi extender so I ordered it. When I talked to them yesterday, they said I could have gotten mesh with 3 access points for free, but since I already ordered the one extender, that offer doesn't apply anymore. I sure hope the local fiber company makes its way here soon.
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Not being able to cancel a service really made me mad yesterday. I actually hate ATT fiber now, after loving them just 24 hours ago. I moved and had service at 2 places for a while while I finished moving. Setting up service for both addresses was so pleasant. I was quickly able to talkk with someone who spoke good English and didn't have to wait on hold. To end service on the other hand was a nightmare. I was on hold for almost an hour after already having them call me back an hour after I first called. The whole time I was on hold, the worst most distorted and staticy holding musiuc played, which must have been on purpose to get you to hang up. Then when I finally talked to someone, she tried everything to get me to keep the service AT THE OLD HOUSE that I don't live at anymore and will be demolished in a couple weeks. And to add to that, I said I wanted the mesh wifi in mt new house because it is so big, but they were like, oh no your router is fine for that sized house. Turns out it's not. So I tried to find the option for mesh on their app and website and couldn't find it. All I could find was one wifi extender so I ordered it. When I talked to them yesterday, they said I could have gotten mesh with 3 access points for free, but since I already ordered the one extender, that offer doesn't apply anymore. I sure hope the local fiber company makes its way here soon.
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gamersnexus
Anything that gives me a rs 232 port makes me happy. even thou in 2024 usb emulation shouldn't be what it was like in 2015 but sigh i still have to track down that one or 2 specific expensive brands that make a rs232 to uart bridge adapter that works with just there dongle or hardware (looking at you forescan) and then hunt down the right firmware depending on who makes the dam chip set... sure of course im such a dummy its easy just let me take it apart to find out if its the CP2102 or maby its the CH340 chip then make an account cause i forgot my password to download the driver from there website (si labs fu) uggggggg. there's a reason i will never stop using my cf53( because i cant afford a cf54 lol)
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Anything that gives me a rs 232 port makes me happy. even thou in 2024 usb emulation shouldn't be what it was like in 2015 but sigh i still have to track down that one or 2 specific expensive brands that make a rs232 to uart bridge adapter that works with just there dongle or hardware (looking at you forescan) and then hunt down the right firmware depending on who makes the dam chip set... sure of course im such a dummy its easy just let me take it apart to find out if its the CP2102 or maby its the CH340 chip then make an account cause i forgot my password to download the driver from there website (si labs fu) uggggggg. there's a reason i will never stop using my cf53( because i cant afford a cf54 lol)
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MarktheRude
I wish this whole long life-cycle we have seen with AM4 would become the de-facto standard in the industry going forward. It's saving everyone time, money and effort when you don't have to reinvent the wheel, plus it's environmentally more reasonable when you can minimize the amount of e-waste being produced.
Motherboard manufacturer's certainly aren't loving this situation, but we should have no sympathy towards them since in their infinite greed, they removed the diagnostic LCD's, a feature that had become pretty much the normal standard in anything but the most poverty-level motherboards.
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I wish this whole long life-cycle we have seen with AM4 would become the de-facto standard in the industry going forward. It's saving everyone time, money and effort when you don't have to reinvent the wheel, plus it's environmentally more reasonable when you can minimize the amount of e-waste being produced.
Motherboard manufacturer's certainly aren't loving this situation, but we should have no sympathy towards them since in their infinite greed, they removed the diagnostic LCD's, a feature that had become pretty much the normal standard in anything but the most poverty-level motherboards.
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theoneneo5024
The same federal government that loves imminent domain (take your land because they can use it better than you), civil asset forfeiture (take your money/car/house because it might have been used in a crime even if they don't charge you with a crime), and keeping your overpaid tax money for months with no penalties or interest is going to go after the greedy companies How about the bureaucrats clean up their own house first because I can guarantee more people are screwed for a lot more money by the IRS every year than by Adobe.
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The same federal government that loves imminent domain (take your land because they can use it better than you), civil asset forfeiture (take your money/car/house because it might have been used in a crime even if they don't charge you with a crime), and keeping your overpaid tax money for months with no penalties or interest is going to go after the greedy companies How about the bureaucrats clean up their own house first because I can guarantee more people are screwed for a lot more money by the IRS every year than by Adobe.
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maskharat
Would it be possible/in scope to publish the benchmarks on the website Kinda as a list/spreadsheet type one for CPUs one for CPUs
I like to watch the videos to keep myself informed, but when I'm in the buying decision process, I'd rather need a sortable list/spreadsheet of all the CPUs/GPUs. Using the most current review on the website and using the results given there to compare stuff is OK, too, but a sortable list/spreadsheet with the current tests integrated would be such a quality of life feature.
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Would it be possible/in scope to publish the benchmarks on the website Kinda as a list/spreadsheet type one for CPUs one for CPUs
I like to watch the videos to keep myself informed, but when I'm in the buying decision process, I'd rather need a sortable list/spreadsheet of all the CPUs/GPUs. Using the most current review on the website and using the results given there to compare stuff is OK, too, but a sortable list/spreadsheet with the current tests integrated would be such a quality of life feature.
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uncrunch398
I don't understand why it's so difficult to provide convenient unsub options to customers. There is no better way to generate funds nor reputation than a pool of satisfied customers or clients. Let those who aren't go with no harsh feelings. They and your product/service don't fit; don't force it. Further, it's an often harmful ongoing theft to not. People often want to drop a subscription because the cost is hurting their budget, and it's wasteful to spend on something you won't miss.
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I don't understand why it's so difficult to provide convenient unsub options to customers. There is no better way to generate funds nor reputation than a pool of satisfied customers or clients. Let those who aren't go with no harsh feelings. They and your product/service don't fit; don't force it. Further, it's an often harmful ongoing theft to not. People often want to drop a subscription because the cost is hurting their budget, and it's wasteful to spend on something you won't miss.
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TheHangarHobbit
According to MLID you WILL see new AM4 chips until mid 2025 and the reason is server contracts. AMD has server contracts for EPYC Milan that go through to 2025 and all the non X3D AM4 chips you are seeing is the EPYC chips that didn't pass muster while the X3d are all 5800X3d that failed. It's a smart move as that leaves AMD with pretty much 0 wasted silicon while we literally have over a hundred chips for AM4 so AM4 will remain the choice for budget ballers for awhile.
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According to MLID you WILL see new AM4 chips until mid 2025 and the reason is server contracts. AMD has server contracts for EPYC Milan that go through to 2025 and all the non X3D AM4 chips you are seeing is the EPYC chips that didn't pass muster while the X3d are all 5800X3d that failed. It's a smart move as that leaves AMD with pretty much 0 wasted silicon while we literally have over a hundred chips for AM4 so AM4 will remain the choice for budget ballers for awhile.
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bigmclargehuge1170
After the Yoshino situation, I'm gonna take everything you say about batteries with a grain of salt. I'm sure you mean well, but you had one of those things in hand, you could have simply taken it apart and poked the battery pack to find out whether it was solid state or not, and you didn't. It's kind of hilarious how obvious a scam it was in retrospect, I really wish you took the time and had the background to actually look into the technology you're talking about.
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After the Yoshino situation, I'm gonna take everything you say about batteries with a grain of salt. I'm sure you mean well, but you had one of those things in hand, you could have simply taken it apart and poked the battery pack to find out whether it was solid state or not, and you didn't. It's kind of hilarious how obvious a scam it was in retrospect, I really wish you took the time and had the background to actually look into the technology you're talking about.
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JoeStuffzAlt
ffmpeg looks like it has a bunch of audio filters, plus it's command-line. EQ, denoise, gate, delay, deesser, compression, low pass, high pass, etc. Tempo, drmmeter, normalization, flanger, resample also might be nice. These kinds of algorithms are common in DAWs and would be a very helpful benchmark.
Strip away the UI and you'll have very similar algorithms running in a DAW, plus ffmpeg's libavcodec is EVERYWHERE, including in Radeon drivers
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ffmpeg looks like it has a bunch of audio filters, plus it's command-line. EQ, denoise, gate, delay, deesser, compression, low pass, high pass, etc. Tempo, drmmeter, normalization, flanger, resample also might be nice. These kinds of algorithms are common in DAWs and would be a very helpful benchmark.
Strip away the UI and you'll have very similar algorithms running in a DAW, plus ffmpeg's libavcodec is EVERYWHERE, including in Radeon drivers
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beyondearth6418
The RTX 4000 series are borderline useless with new games that are coming out from August 2024 though December 2024. Game developers using Unreal Engine 5 remain a bottleneck as they can't be bothered to optimize correctly and don't know what they're doing, while in-house game engines struggle to keep up. What gives The gaming industry is in shambles, it's clear and obvious.
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The RTX 4000 series are borderline useless with new games that are coming out from August 2024 though December 2024. Game developers using Unreal Engine 5 remain a bottleneck as they can't be bothered to optimize correctly and don't know what they're doing, while in-house game engines struggle to keep up. What gives The gaming industry is in shambles, it's clear and obvious.
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comfyzone2271
Please do some linux benchmarks. Phoronix measured a significant performance uplift on ryzen 9000 using linux. It is really disappointing that all of your tests are done on a single operating system. If that system had bad drivers, all of your testing was for nothing. Its like betting all of your money on a single horse, knowing that the other horses are not far behind
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Please do some linux benchmarks. Phoronix measured a significant performance uplift on ryzen 9000 using linux. It is really disappointing that all of your tests are done on a single operating system. If that system had bad drivers, all of your testing was for nothing. Its like betting all of your money on a single horse, knowing that the other horses are not far behind
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moravianlion3108
While having more vram is always great for all things AI, I wonder how 4090d is actually performant. Can't find any reliable, real benchmark. I also wonder how 4090d can be only 5% slower than regular 4090 while 7900 GRE has been cut down to almost $450 7800 xt territory.
If anyone can explain this to me, I'm listening, because for now it doesn't make any sense.
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While having more vram is always great for all things AI, I wonder how 4090d is actually performant. Can't find any reliable, real benchmark. I also wonder how 4090d can be only 5% slower than regular 4090 while 7900 GRE has been cut down to almost $450 7800 xt territory.
If anyone can explain this to me, I'm listening, because for now it doesn't make any sense.
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FrancisFjordCupola
Rodinia obviously uses AVX-512. Given that AMD put in a half-width path in previous generations of zens and a full-width path. What would be interesting to see is if graphics drivers were to use AVX-512 in the future. I doubt they have a code path for that since AVX-512 availability generally wasn't there much. Limited to some top-end Intel CPU's.
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Rodinia obviously uses AVX-512. Given that AMD put in a half-width path in previous generations of zens and a full-width path. What would be interesting to see is if graphics drivers were to use AVX-512 in the future. I doubt they have a code path for that since AVX-512 availability generally wasn't there much. Limited to some top-end Intel CPU's.
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JamieStuff
Remember, Valve doesn't make their money on selling Steam Decks. They make their money selling games. So having other companies' handhelds running SteamOS ties them a bit tighter to the Steam ecosystem, which means more Steam game sales. Also, Valve may be putting in the work for software support for the next generation Steam Deck. Win-win-win!
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Remember, Valve doesn't make their money on selling Steam Decks. They make their money selling games. So having other companies' handhelds running SteamOS ties them a bit tighter to the Steam ecosystem, which means more Steam game sales. Also, Valve may be putting in the work for software support for the next generation Steam Deck. Win-win-win!
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MrGhostLt
Steve Its not that hard to add VRAM to 20xx and 30xx cards.
Buy some depend on speed (K4ZAF325BM-HC14 / 16 / 18) and get out the soldering iron.
This YT Graphics Card Repairs have most of how you doing it.
He change 1 GB to 2 GB memory modules and more important change the strapping on the card recognize it have more memory .
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Steve Its not that hard to add VRAM to 20xx and 30xx cards.
Buy some depend on speed (K4ZAF325BM-HC14 / 16 / 18) and get out the soldering iron.
This YT Graphics Card Repairs have most of how you doing it.
He change 1 GB to 2 GB memory modules and more important change the strapping on the card recognize it have more memory .
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572089
I wanna see benchmarks in KSP with all the standard advanced mods loaded like Feram, Near Future, KSP-I, Wild Blue, etc
someone should put together a concise modpack with launch automation and set it up for a benchmark run.
KSP is a really inefficient game, but it absolutely POUNDS a CPU single thread and chews through memory bandwidth.
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I wanna see benchmarks in KSP with all the standard advanced mods loaded like Feram, Near Future, KSP-I, Wild Blue, etc
someone should put together a concise modpack with launch automation and set it up for a benchmark run.
KSP is a really inefficient game, but it absolutely POUNDS a CPU single thread and chews through memory bandwidth.
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magfal
I'm trying to convince GPD to do a premium SKU of the Pocket 4 with at least 96GB but preferably 256GB of DDR5
I want a pocket workstation.
I've already ordered 2 2560x1600 500 nits 9 inch portable monitors to make sure that I can do decent work anywhere using equipment that fits in my jacket pockets or cargo pockets.
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I'm trying to convince GPD to do a premium SKU of the Pocket 4 with at least 96GB but preferably 256GB of DDR5
I want a pocket workstation.
I've already ordered 2 2560x1600 500 nits 9 inch portable monitors to make sure that I can do decent work anywhere using equipment that fits in my jacket pockets or cargo pockets.
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dgo4490
Looks like amd has finally stockpiled enough miss-qualifying 3d chiplets to release a 100 mhz lower clocked SKU. I doubt this will keep on happening, as the percentage of chiplets that will qualify even lower will be even lower. And I doubt it will be very available, more of a limited run to clear up some warehouse space.
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Looks like amd has finally stockpiled enough miss-qualifying 3d chiplets to release a 100 mhz lower clocked SKU. I doubt this will keep on happening, as the percentage of chiplets that will qualify even lower will be even lower. And I doubt it will be very available, more of a limited run to clear up some warehouse space.
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QLPJosh
I have a B350strix board that started with a 1600x, now it has a 5800x3d. It's missing a lot of modern stuff... no usb c, PCIE3 only, only 1 NVME slot... etc.
Not sure if I want to upgrade the board and get all the cool modern features, or just wait to build a new system. 5800x3d is still so fast
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I have a B350strix board that started with a 1600x, now it has a 5800x3d. It's missing a lot of modern stuff... no usb c, PCIE3 only, only 1 NVME slot... etc.
Not sure if I want to upgrade the board and get all the cool modern features, or just wait to build a new system. 5800x3d is still so fast
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LautaroQ2812
Rossmann.24 is one of the best anger translators currently. I'm glad you've got one of those as well.
No matter political isle, depending on how they are doing it, this is a big W in general.
I'm so glad AMD went back to support 3000 processors. Now my 2600 is going to be safe! Hold on...
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Rossmann.24 is one of the best anger translators currently. I'm glad you've got one of those as well.
No matter political isle, depending on how they are doing it, this is a big W in general.
I'm so glad AMD went back to support 3000 processors. Now my 2600 is going to be safe! Hold on...
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