AMD Radeon RX 7900 GRE GPU Review & Benchmarks vs. RX 7900 XT, 7800 XT, RTX 4070 Super
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Date: 2024-02-26
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desild5869
I honestly can't imagine that a person exists who has $550 and doesn't go $50 to get the 4070 SUPER to get 2-classes above ray tracing performance (so much better that the SUPER literally offers gaming experiences impossible on the GRE), superior upscaling, superior energy efficiency (especially at idle/desktop/video playback which will easily yield you the $50 in savings if you run your card 24/7) and, finally, superior resale value which practically guarantees your total cost of ownership with a 4070 SUPER will be lower than with a GRE.
It's literally impossible for me to imagine who buys this. It feels like even 10-15% is too much market share for AMD with its current above $500 lineup.
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I honestly can't imagine that a person exists who has $550 and doesn't go $50 to get the 4070 SUPER to get 2-classes above ray tracing performance (so much better that the SUPER literally offers gaming experiences impossible on the GRE), superior upscaling, superior energy efficiency (especially at idle/desktop/video playback which will easily yield you the $50 in savings if you run your card 24/7) and, finally, superior resale value which practically guarantees your total cost of ownership with a 4070 SUPER will be lower than with a GRE.
It's literally impossible for me to imagine who buys this. It feels like even 10-15% is too much market share for AMD with its current above $500 lineup.
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RN1441
Around the 21:00 minute mark I heard a sentence that I took three exceptions with in all of three seconds. First, that $500 is now considered mid-range, second that AMD is using a naming scheme with '900' in it to denote this 'mid-range' performer, and third that this is the improved pricing late in the generation but it's still losing on dollar per frame value in RT heavy games. I'm someone who used ATi/AMD exclusively from 1995 through 2017, and while their CPUs are still great in both value and performance their GPU division has been a bad joke for most of a decade now.
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Around the 21:00 minute mark I heard a sentence that I took three exceptions with in all of three seconds. First, that $500 is now considered mid-range, second that AMD is using a naming scheme with '900' in it to denote this 'mid-range' performer, and third that this is the improved pricing late in the generation but it's still losing on dollar per frame value in RT heavy games. I'm someone who used ATi/AMD exclusively from 1995 through 2017, and while their CPUs are still great in both value and performance their GPU division has been a bad joke for most of a decade now.
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EdwardViaTomato
I'd almost given up hope on always recommending the $500-600 card, and upgrading sooner (2-tiers, so either one gen and one tier, or two gens, same tier) instead of paying $800 for an idea of future proofness.
This looks like a great card, and I'm into it's TDP versus it's performance, too. Given its assumed binned nature, I wonder what its undervolted performance would be. I build mITX and custom cooled mITX, so potential for efficiency is always a top priority in my book.
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I'd almost given up hope on always recommending the $500-600 card, and upgrading sooner (2-tiers, so either one gen and one tier, or two gens, same tier) instead of paying $800 for an idea of future proofness.
This looks like a great card, and I'm into it's TDP versus it's performance, too. Given its assumed binned nature, I wonder what its undervolted performance would be. I build mITX and custom cooled mITX, so potential for efficiency is always a top priority in my book.
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DouglasWatt
Interesting! The other Steve showed their 7900 GRE basically being much more on-part with the 7800XT. I wonder what accounts for the different results
Still not convinced it's worth a 10% price increase over the 7800 XT (and as a 6800 XT user, not enticed to upgrade at all), but I'm hoping that these much more sane pricing trends continue and the 7800 XT will be $450 & the GRE drop to $500 in another 23 months.
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Interesting! The other Steve showed their 7900 GRE basically being much more on-part with the 7800XT. I wonder what accounts for the different results
Still not convinced it's worth a 10% price increase over the 7800 XT (and as a 6800 XT user, not enticed to upgrade at all), but I'm hoping that these much more sane pricing trends continue and the 7800 XT will be $450 & the GRE drop to $500 in another 23 months.
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themadoneplays7842
well this is certainly another blow to the RTX 4070 which really has become super irrelevant now in its price class. As for me being a RX 7800XT user well the appeal of the RX 7900GRE is kinda low, and makes me glad I spared the extra $50 for a very slight performance increase. Sure this does mean the RX 7800XT may lower in price but since I was able to snag my card at its MSRP I am not that bothered.
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well this is certainly another blow to the RTX 4070 which really has become super irrelevant now in its price class. As for me being a RX 7800XT user well the appeal of the RX 7900GRE is kinda low, and makes me glad I spared the extra $50 for a very slight performance increase. Sure this does mean the RX 7800XT may lower in price but since I was able to snag my card at its MSRP I am not that bothered.
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Eazon_
17:32 I think it is a very worth revisit though, because previous reviews i've seen when i almost bought this card a couple months ago placed it way closer to the 7800XT than now. More around a 8% or so difference on average, compared to your review's 15-18%
Which makes me think they mightve done some driver optimization prior to globally launching it
Looks like a pretty good value now
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17:32 I think it is a very worth revisit though, because previous reviews i've seen when i almost bought this card a couple months ago placed it way closer to the 7800XT than now. More around a 8% or so difference on average, compared to your review's 15-18%
Which makes me think they mightve done some driver optimization prior to globally launching it
Looks like a pretty good value now
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jhowle9475
the reason why the 7700xt and the 7800xt are so close in oerformance is because the 7800xt is actually just a 7800 while the 7900GRE, is just actually an 7800XT. AMD upped one position on naming to justify price increases. Going further, the 7900XT should have just been a 7900 with the 7900XTX should have been just a 7900XT. The prices and performance made more since there.
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the reason why the 7700xt and the 7800xt are so close in oerformance is because the 7800xt is actually just a 7800 while the 7900GRE, is just actually an 7800XT. AMD upped one position on naming to justify price increases. Going further, the 7900XT should have just been a 7900 with the 7900XTX should have been just a 7900XT. The prices and performance made more since there.
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javiTests
How come in the Hardware Unboxed review the 4070 Super was almost always faster than the GRE and here is the other way around I noticed the GFX settings here are a bit lower, but I don't think that should have changed the results that much... What else could be the difference to make the 4070 Super faster than the GRE BIOS settings Memory
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How come in the Hardware Unboxed review the 4070 Super was almost always faster than the GRE and here is the other way around I noticed the GFX settings here are a bit lower, but I don't think that should have changed the results that much... What else could be the difference to make the 4070 Super faster than the GRE BIOS settings Memory
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PhillipLemmon
I'll save y'all some time....
Remember the LAST GRE MODEL...!
YEAH THAT!
getting REALLY sick and tired of AMD hitting that wall now!
The only japan gpu's coming to America Cuz they trying to get sales up....
Hey Su here some advice for ya.......
Bring it out in the USA... FIRST.. then your own country!!!
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I'll save y'all some time....
Remember the LAST GRE MODEL...!
YEAH THAT!
getting REALLY sick and tired of AMD hitting that wall now!
The only japan gpu's coming to America Cuz they trying to get sales up....
Hey Su here some advice for ya.......
Bring it out in the USA... FIRST.. then your own country!!!
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Kayametra
Micro Center still has some residual 6950XTs for $550. I was planning on getting one of those but AV1 encoding and a couple extra years of updates in case I want to throw this in an entertainment PC a few years down the road makes it worth the average couple percentage points the 6950XT might have in some titles.
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Micro Center still has some residual 6950XTs for $550. I was planning on getting one of those but AV1 encoding and a couple extra years of updates in case I want to throw this in an entertainment PC a few years down the road makes it worth the average couple percentage points the 6950XT might have in some titles.
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derekjohnston1743
Thanks Steve.... Having a 6800xt OC i think im going to wait for the next gen. Not really worth spending this kind of money for 10% uplift at best. RT doesnt matter to me so Nvidia isnt worth it to me.. Hopefully AMD's 9000 series is better because lord knows I can't afford a $3k nvidia 5000 series
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Thanks Steve.... Having a 6800xt OC i think im going to wait for the next gen. Not really worth spending this kind of money for 10% uplift at best. RT doesnt matter to me so Nvidia isnt worth it to me.. Hopefully AMD's 9000 series is better because lord knows I can't afford a $3k nvidia 5000 series
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jamesmcd71
I still can't understand how people are willing to pay hundreds of dollars just to have better ray tracing. 90% of the time you can't tell if RT is on or off without looking at the fps #. Yes, a screenshot with more accurate lighting and sharp reflections in a water bubble is very nice.
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I still can't understand how people are willing to pay hundreds of dollars just to have better ray tracing. 90% of the time you can't tell if RT is on or off without looking at the fps #. Yes, a screenshot with more accurate lighting and sharp reflections in a water bubble is very nice.
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danieltoth9742
Wow. With this release, basically half of Radeon's current gen lineup is called a x900 now. They REALLY want you to think you're getting the Ultimate Premium Edition of Computer Graphics (TM), even more so than Nvidia, which is impressive considering what _that_ company did.
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Wow. With this release, basically half of Radeon's current gen lineup is called a x900 now. They REALLY want you to think you're getting the Ultimate Premium Edition of Computer Graphics (TM), even more so than Nvidia, which is impressive considering what _that_ company did.
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Joostinonline
So long story short, it gives a much more comfortable amount of VRAM next to the 4070S, but you lose out on a good H264 encoder (necessary for twitch streaming and production) and DLSS. It would be good if you just want to play at home and use either native 1440p or FSR2 4k.
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So long story short, it gives a much more comfortable amount of VRAM next to the 4070S, but you lose out on a good H264 encoder (necessary for twitch streaming and production) and DLSS. It would be good if you just want to play at home and use either native 1440p or FSR2 4k.
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prajacalin3136
You guys got it good on pricing, in Europe at my local store you're looking at the equivalent of 1102$ for a 7900XT or 784$ for a 4070S.....it's usually cheaper to get AMD but not in this case I guess.
Side note: Arc A770 goes for the equivalent of 480$ over here.
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You guys got it good on pricing, in Europe at my local store you're looking at the equivalent of 1102$ for a 7900XT or 784$ for a 4070S.....it's usually cheaper to get AMD but not in this case I guess.
Side note: Arc A770 goes for the equivalent of 480$ over here.
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emlyndewar
It’s not that it’s a bad card, it’s just that it’s permanently been at the wrong price. Here in China people didn’t want this for that pathetic original price. I guess they’re sitting on a lot of them, and need to sell the broken shit.
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It’s not that it’s a bad card, it’s just that it’s permanently been at the wrong price. Here in China people didn’t want this for that pathetic original price. I guess they’re sitting on a lot of them, and need to sell the broken shit.
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DunkSouth
Thanks, Steve.
I've noticed lately that the 3090 is absent from a lot of gaming benchmark charts. Is this because the card's rasterization performance is effectively shadowed by a newer card (e.g. 4070 Ti/3080 Ti) or something else Cheers.
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Thanks, Steve.
I've noticed lately that the 3090 is absent from a lot of gaming benchmark charts. Is this because the card's rasterization performance is effectively shadowed by a newer card (e.g. 4070 Ti/3080 Ti) or something else Cheers.
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erickelly4107
Why no mention of upscaling / DLSS or frame gen
Seems like Digital Foundry the ONLY reviewers that can be counted on these days..
Other reviewers just copy / paste same BS making seem like DLSS / FSR, etc. and the same.
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Why no mention of upscaling / DLSS or frame gen
Seems like Digital Foundry the ONLY reviewers that can be counted on these days..
Other reviewers just copy / paste same BS making seem like DLSS / FSR, etc. and the same.
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munem939
You wanna know why they're selling the GRE (Golden Rabbit Edition) to the rest of the world It's because it's now the Year of the Dragon now and Year of the Rabbit was last year, so AMD are getting rid of old stock from China lmao
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You wanna know why they're selling the GRE (Golden Rabbit Edition) to the rest of the world It's because it's now the Year of the Dragon now and Year of the Rabbit was last year, so AMD are getting rid of old stock from China lmao
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martineyles
The Hardware unboxed seems to show the 7900GRE much closer to the 7800XT in performance. Any thoughts on why that might be A different suite of tested games, or a different test methodology or partner vs reference card testing
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The Hardware unboxed seems to show the 7900GRE much closer to the 7800XT in performance. Any thoughts on why that might be A different suite of tested games, or a different test methodology or partner vs reference card testing
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