AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 8-Core CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. i7-12700KF, R9 7900X, & More
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Date: 2022-09-28
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Jamie
I'm actually going to try to build a computer with the 7700X. The reason is because as is, I haven't upgraded my computer in 3 years. And the CPU that I have was a couple years old when I built it (an i5 8400). So I'm still running a CPU that was considered low-end when it came out 5 years ago. And it did just about everything I wanted until Elden Ring came out. Steam won't let me play that game because of my CPU. So that's when I decided it was finally time for an upgrade. So I'd like to get a CPU that will 1) blow my old CPU out of the water. 2) last me more than 3 years before NEEDING an upgrade, and 3) honestly gives me some bragging rights. I don't need a production class R9, but having an 8 core, 16 thread CPU that does 5.2 Ghz all core just sounds nice. The difference between an i5 8400 and a R7 7700X would be night and day. I'm not going to build it right away, and I want to wait until all of AMD's stuff is out (IE. motherboards and next gen GPU's) before I start building because I also want to make this an all team red computer (again, just to say I did). But I do want to build this thing then not really need to worry about upgrading anything other than the GPU for several years. So I'm willing to pay an extra 100 if it means I won't need to upgrade for an extra launch cycle.
Also, it feels weird spending so much on a 360mm rad. ATX 3.0 PSU, DDR5 6400 RAM, and mobo just to get the cheapest offering.
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I'm actually going to try to build a computer with the 7700X. The reason is because as is, I haven't upgraded my computer in 3 years. And the CPU that I have was a couple years old when I built it (an i5 8400). So I'm still running a CPU that was considered low-end when it came out 5 years ago. And it did just about everything I wanted until Elden Ring came out. Steam won't let me play that game because of my CPU. So that's when I decided it was finally time for an upgrade. So I'd like to get a CPU that will 1) blow my old CPU out of the water. 2) last me more than 3 years before NEEDING an upgrade, and 3) honestly gives me some bragging rights. I don't need a production class R9, but having an 8 core, 16 thread CPU that does 5.2 Ghz all core just sounds nice. The difference between an i5 8400 and a R7 7700X would be night and day. I'm not going to build it right away, and I want to wait until all of AMD's stuff is out (IE. motherboards and next gen GPU's) before I start building because I also want to make this an all team red computer (again, just to say I did). But I do want to build this thing then not really need to worry about upgrading anything other than the GPU for several years. So I'm willing to pay an extra 100 if it means I won't need to upgrade for an extra launch cycle.
Also, it feels weird spending so much on a 360mm rad. ATX 3.0 PSU, DDR5 6400 RAM, and mobo just to get the cheapest offering.
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Kyle
I've never been happier to not have waited. I was going to go AMD and wait for the 7600X but I really wanted a PC so I went with the i5 12500 ( 202 at the time) over the 5600X ( 250 at the time) instead, this was back in April. Solid value gaming build, DDR4 3600 in a B660 board. I would have never spent 400 on a 7600X plus all the extra for the MOBO, DDR5, Cooling, etc. I would have been waiting for nothing.
I was also going to wait for the 4070 but with the rumors all over the place and me going 3 months with my new PC with no GPU I caved and bought a 3080 12gb for 700 after discount. 3 months later of happily gaming and the 4000 series launch blows with NO 4070 and 900 price of entry. I would have never spent 900 on a GPU, let alone that 4080 12gb which is a 4070 in disguise. The 700 I spent on my 3080 12gb was already above what I wanted to spend and is my first 80 series card. Yeah, glad I didn't wait! I love my build, will use it for at least 4 years as is being that is the warranty length on my GPU
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I've never been happier to not have waited. I was going to go AMD and wait for the 7600X but I really wanted a PC so I went with the i5 12500 ( 202 at the time) over the 5600X ( 250 at the time) instead, this was back in April. Solid value gaming build, DDR4 3600 in a B660 board. I would have never spent 400 on a 7600X plus all the extra for the MOBO, DDR5, Cooling, etc. I would have been waiting for nothing.
I was also going to wait for the 4070 but with the rumors all over the place and me going 3 months with my new PC with no GPU I caved and bought a 3080 12gb for 700 after discount. 3 months later of happily gaming and the 4000 series launch blows with NO 4070 and 900 price of entry. I would have never spent 900 on a GPU, let alone that 4080 12gb which is a 4070 in disguise. The 700 I spent on my 3080 12gb was already above what I wanted to spend and is my first 80 series card. Yeah, glad I didn't wait! I love my build, will use it for at least 4 years as is being that is the warranty length on my GPU
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no
A significant portion of increased motherboard cost is due to PCIe 5.0 support, which is kind of silly because there are no really compelling reasons for a consumer board to support PCIe 5.0. Here are some PCB cost numbers we have seen over recent years - we saw the cost of a 12 x13 mid-loss PCIe 3.0 PCB was around 55 a few years ago. Moving to a low-loss 12 x13 PCB for PCIe 4.0 support, we saw the PCB cost increase to around 90. When we moved to ultra-low-loss material with loads of via backdrilling (extra tool time milling the raw PCB) to meet PCIe 5.0 design rules, that same 12 x13 PCB cost increased to about 200. This is just the raw circuit board itself. We also saw significant BOM increases around the rest of the board as well due to extreme increases in socket power consumption requiring many more D2D power stages. These increased bus speeds and socket power consumption specs are not free, they have significant cost adders that are driving motherboard cost up.
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A significant portion of increased motherboard cost is due to PCIe 5.0 support, which is kind of silly because there are no really compelling reasons for a consumer board to support PCIe 5.0. Here are some PCB cost numbers we have seen over recent years - we saw the cost of a 12 x13 mid-loss PCIe 3.0 PCB was around 55 a few years ago. Moving to a low-loss 12 x13 PCB for PCIe 4.0 support, we saw the PCB cost increase to around 90. When we moved to ultra-low-loss material with loads of via backdrilling (extra tool time milling the raw PCB) to meet PCIe 5.0 design rules, that same 12 x13 PCB cost increased to about 200. This is just the raw circuit board itself. We also saw significant BOM increases around the rest of the board as well due to extreme increases in socket power consumption requiring many more D2D power stages. These increased bus speeds and socket power consumption specs are not free, they have significant cost adders that are driving motherboard cost up.
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Mr.
Great reviews! Thanks GN Team!
My takeaway from watching all these videos is that...
- The Ryzen 7000 series are a significant improvement in performance over the 5000 series, particularly in single thread operation. In single thread performance each core is performing better than Intel's 12 gen, but Intel's lower end CPUs have more cores, so it's a toss up.
- If you're just a gamer, then your needs are pretty low, and these performance gains won't mean much to you. Save your money for a new GPU. (There's an exception to gamers who play games that are CPU limited e.g. factorio, rimworld, etc)
- For everyone else that needs a beefy machine, get as many cores as you can afford to make the extra money you're investing worth it.
- If you're worried about power efficiency, the ECO modes should allow you to have your cake and eat it too. Major power savings with minimal performance loss.
- Everyone should wait for the cheaper B650 motherboards.
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Great reviews! Thanks GN Team!
My takeaway from watching all these videos is that...
- The Ryzen 7000 series are a significant improvement in performance over the 5000 series, particularly in single thread operation. In single thread performance each core is performing better than Intel's 12 gen, but Intel's lower end CPUs have more cores, so it's a toss up.
- If you're just a gamer, then your needs are pretty low, and these performance gains won't mean much to you. Save your money for a new GPU. (There's an exception to gamers who play games that are CPU limited e.g. factorio, rimworld, etc)
- For everyone else that needs a beefy machine, get as many cores as you can afford to make the extra money you're investing worth it.
- If you're worried about power efficiency, the ECO modes should allow you to have your cake and eat it too. Major power savings with minimal performance loss.
- Everyone should wait for the cheaper B650 motherboards.
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Alan
I'm sure over the coming weeks and months that more reasonable AM5 motherboards will come out, more coolers will be certified for use with (or given adapters for) the AM5 socket, and we are already seeing more reasonably priced DDR5 RAM. Few short months ago in June, 32GB of Kingston Fury DDR5-5600 CL36 would run you 510. Now you can get the same Kingston kit for 189 and other brands still matching the specs are as low as 149. AM5 motherboards are thus still the largest cost gap between AM5 and AM4 outside of the CPUs themselves. The enthusiast tax on the new products is much lower now than it was for the introduction of DDR5 iterations of Intel's 12th gen, and I look forward to those X670 (non-E) and B650 boards to bridge that gap.
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I'm sure over the coming weeks and months that more reasonable AM5 motherboards will come out, more coolers will be certified for use with (or given adapters for) the AM5 socket, and we are already seeing more reasonably priced DDR5 RAM. Few short months ago in June, 32GB of Kingston Fury DDR5-5600 CL36 would run you 510. Now you can get the same Kingston kit for 189 and other brands still matching the specs are as low as 149. AM5 motherboards are thus still the largest cost gap between AM5 and AM4 outside of the CPUs themselves. The enthusiast tax on the new products is much lower now than it was for the introduction of DDR5 iterations of Intel's 12th gen, and I look forward to those X670 (non-E) and B650 boards to bridge that gap.
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Derek2k
Ok so help me out bros. Imma whole broke boy who s been waiting what 2 years for a gpu. I have a stinky 1660 super and a ryzen 5 3600 with a trident z 8gb 2 sticks of ram 3600 16-18-18-30 something. An asus rog strix b550 motherboard and a Corsair 4000d airflow. I m tryna be cheap af and just play apex with better frames. I know I need at least a better monitor as mine sucks and is 144 fps which is the max I get with the 1660 super on low settings on it. Do I just leave it and sell the whole damn thing and start over or can I get a 30 series or even an amd that is better than the crap I have that will give me 240 fps on apex 1080p of course with low settings for all I care.
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Ok so help me out bros. Imma whole broke boy who s been waiting what 2 years for a gpu. I have a stinky 1660 super and a ryzen 5 3600 with a trident z 8gb 2 sticks of ram 3600 16-18-18-30 something. An asus rog strix b550 motherboard and a Corsair 4000d airflow. I m tryna be cheap af and just play apex with better frames. I know I need at least a better monitor as mine sucks and is 144 fps which is the max I get with the 1660 super on low settings on it. Do I just leave it and sell the whole damn thing and start over or can I get a 30 series or even an amd that is better than the crap I have that will give me 240 fps on apex 1080p of course with low settings for all I care.
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Luke
I went with the MSI a Pro WiFi z690 for 183 and the 12700k for 339 on sale, and kept my fast ddr4. No regrets. Got to sell my 8600k and asus z370 board now before their value drops completely off of a cliff, and I'm not gonna upgrade cpu or mobo for another 4-5 years anyway. Love to see the competition from AMD, but the cost was too much for me to justify. It would have been minimum 700 for a similar setup, plus extra for DDR5. The AMD launch boards at 300 are comparatively uninspiring, and I figure everything is going to be different in 4-5 years time anyway and that I'm not going to care about direct socket upgrades.
So glad to have copious leaks of benchmarks and specs.
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I went with the MSI a Pro WiFi z690 for 183 and the 12700k for 339 on sale, and kept my fast ddr4. No regrets. Got to sell my 8600k and asus z370 board now before their value drops completely off of a cliff, and I'm not gonna upgrade cpu or mobo for another 4-5 years anyway. Love to see the competition from AMD, but the cost was too much for me to justify. It would have been minimum 700 for a similar setup, plus extra for DDR5. The AMD launch boards at 300 are comparatively uninspiring, and I figure everything is going to be different in 4-5 years time anyway and that I'm not going to care about direct socket upgrades.
So glad to have copious leaks of benchmarks and specs.
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AJBtheSuede
Let's hope for a changed IHS in the 8xxx series, a 20 deg cooling loss is pretty awful. That's HALF the thermal conductivity of the Intel chips in the 4-8 series with pasted (not soldered) IHS's... And back then the tech community were all screaming for blood, executions and mass layoffs - where did that go now? :)
Just bought a 5700X now after all the good reviews of the 7-series have sterted to get out. I had a 2700x system in a media server that was starting to feel a bit dated. Waiting until spring to get a 7-series under 800 for MB-CPU-MEM seemed pretty silly for what you get. I paid 270 for the 5700X, had a 2x16GB 3200 kit over and an existing MB. Done.
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Let's hope for a changed IHS in the 8xxx series, a 20 deg cooling loss is pretty awful. That's HALF the thermal conductivity of the Intel chips in the 4-8 series with pasted (not soldered) IHS's... And back then the tech community were all screaming for blood, executions and mass layoffs - where did that go now? :)
Just bought a 5700X now after all the good reviews of the 7-series have sterted to get out. I had a 2700x system in a media server that was starting to feel a bit dated. Waiting until spring to get a 7-series under 800 for MB-CPU-MEM seemed pretty silly for what you get. I paid 270 for the 5700X, had a 2x16GB 3200 kit over and an existing MB. Done.
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0shark0
My situation may be a little unique because I needed to do an upgrade soon due to my current machine showing its age. I went with a 7700x because I'm upgrading from a 1800x so I'll see the upgrade in speed. I use my computer for 3d production work as well as gaming so the 7700 seemed like a good balance there as well. I also wanted to delay upgrading my PSU and this let's me do that until I decide a direction on a new gpu in the future. Lastly, the 400 price point would make a cpu upgrade next year still ok if they come out with something major, and I won't be stuck with the outrageous 7950x cost.
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My situation may be a little unique because I needed to do an upgrade soon due to my current machine showing its age. I went with a 7700x because I'm upgrading from a 1800x so I'll see the upgrade in speed. I use my computer for 3d production work as well as gaming so the 7700 seemed like a good balance there as well. I also wanted to delay upgrading my PSU and this let's me do that until I decide a direction on a new gpu in the future. Lastly, the 400 price point would make a cpu upgrade next year still ok if they come out with something major, and I won't be stuck with the outrageous 7950x cost.
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NyuNighteyes
I really wish reviews of CPUs would include games that people actually need the info for(the top battle royales, tarkov, war thunder, Dayz, apex legends,) mixed with more obscure but still high quality enthusiast games (things like ArmA or Squad or Hell let Loose)
And then like two of the most popular VR games (so like Vrchat and Pavlov)
That would be way more helpful than games that are running at 300 fps to 600 fps and run on anything, i also picked those games because they tend to be more cpu bound
also star citizen!!! since it's very cpu heavy and hard to run
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I really wish reviews of CPUs would include games that people actually need the info for(the top battle royales, tarkov, war thunder, Dayz, apex legends,) mixed with more obscure but still high quality enthusiast games (things like ArmA or Squad or Hell let Loose)
And then like two of the most popular VR games (so like Vrchat and Pavlov)
That would be way more helpful than games that are running at 300 fps to 600 fps and run on anything, i also picked those games because they tend to be more cpu bound
also star citizen!!! since it's very cpu heavy and hard to run
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Edward
Currently the product stack has huge wholes in it. I think AMD is missing out not making a lower tier 4 core die with less cache per die. It would make for smaller die and cheaper chips and fill a huge segmant where the only option is a dead end platform or Intel. With 4 core chipplet, they could hit 2-4-6-8 core cpus. It would offer 2 and 4 core sku chips for more padestrian usages, and a lower and cheaper tier of 6 and 8 core models for business that can be snappy without content creation mussle needs.
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Currently the product stack has huge wholes in it. I think AMD is missing out not making a lower tier 4 core die with less cache per die. It would make for smaller die and cheaper chips and fill a huge segmant where the only option is a dead end platform or Intel. With 4 core chipplet, they could hit 2-4-6-8 core cpus. It would offer 2 and 4 core sku chips for more padestrian usages, and a lower and cheaper tier of 6 and 8 core models for business that can be snappy without content creation mussle needs.
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beaR
So im not sure exactly what amd did for a different performance increase as far as the 95c thing.
Its basically the same as far back as an Intel 3570k. The mobo is automatically over volting the cpu. Just set the voltage properly and you'll get the same performance for less power and less heat.
Im not sure whats going here.
Optimum Tech just showed setting the 7700 to 85 watts, still hit 5.1ghz at 61c.
Again im confused as to what 95c has to do with anything other than its way to hot.
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So im not sure exactly what amd did for a different performance increase as far as the 95c thing.
Its basically the same as far back as an Intel 3570k. The mobo is automatically over volting the cpu. Just set the voltage properly and you'll get the same performance for less power and less heat.
Im not sure whats going here.
Optimum Tech just showed setting the 7700 to 85 watts, still hit 5.1ghz at 61c.
Again im confused as to what 95c has to do with anything other than its way to hot.
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Many
im sitting here with a p600s and a MSI Suprim x 3090ti. Ive been watching videos and reviews for a couple of weeks trying to decide what cpu to get. I was ready to pull trigger on 7600x then seen intel gen13 is launching. As I was researching and reading up on that I discovered Meteor Lake is right around the corner. Meteor Lake seems interesting at this point. So, do I get the 5800x3d, 5 7600x, i5 12600k, 15 13600k, 15 14600k, or wait for 7800x3d? My head is starting to hurt at this point.
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im sitting here with a p600s and a MSI Suprim x 3090ti. Ive been watching videos and reviews for a couple of weeks trying to decide what cpu to get. I was ready to pull trigger on 7600x then seen intel gen13 is launching. As I was researching and reading up on that I discovered Meteor Lake is right around the corner. Meteor Lake seems interesting at this point. So, do I get the 5800x3d, 5 7600x, i5 12600k, 15 13600k, 15 14600k, or wait for 7800x3d? My head is starting to hurt at this point.
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realbadTech
It may be worthwhile to start testing these CPUs with ray tracing enabled titles and DLSS/FSR enabled. From what I gather from Digital Foundry we're quick to run up against CPU limitations in games like Spiderman where RT is on full display. Maybe a niche thing to look at, but probably less so than analyzing 600+ FPS in CS:GO. It may also reveal CPU differences in more realistic resolutions like 1440p/4K since I doubt most who are spending 400+ on a CPU are running a 1080p display.
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It may be worthwhile to start testing these CPUs with ray tracing enabled titles and DLSS/FSR enabled. From what I gather from Digital Foundry we're quick to run up against CPU limitations in games like Spiderman where RT is on full display. Maybe a niche thing to look at, but probably less so than analyzing 600+ FPS in CS:GO. It may also reveal CPU differences in more realistic resolutions like 1440p/4K since I doubt most who are spending 400+ on a CPU are running a 1080p display.
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Fryderyk
5:52 AMDbros, don't hesitate to seek help if you are feeling anxious. If you cannot afford consultations (probably because you spent all the money on energy bill), you can always use a simple paper bag to help you with relieve the stress. Simply follow these 5 steps:
1. Hold a small paper bag (the kind used for lunches) over your mouth and nose.
2. Take 6 to 12 normal breaths.
3. Remove the bag from your mouth and nose.
4. Take a few breaths.
5. Repeat as needed.
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5:52 AMDbros, don't hesitate to seek help if you are feeling anxious. If you cannot afford consultations (probably because you spent all the money on energy bill), you can always use a simple paper bag to help you with relieve the stress. Simply follow these 5 steps:
1. Hold a small paper bag (the kind used for lunches) over your mouth and nose.
2. Take 6 to 12 normal breaths.
3. Remove the bag from your mouth and nose.
4. Take a few breaths.
5. Repeat as needed.
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