Politicians have been trying to ban microtransactions since World War 2
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If they truly had some qualms about fictional characters being depicted gunning one another down, based on actual thought rather than reactive emotion, then their response would be tempered by the fact that if fictional characters lives have importance and moral consequence, the much larger number of characters which are born when the game is begun compared to the small number killed makes videogames overall a vastly life-positive enterprise. Their kid gives birth to thousands every day!\r\n
Date: 2023-12-10
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-mgiedeman
This is my comparison with loot boxes the whole time. Pinball machines prior to the addition of flippers were a game of luck (aka the shitty version of gambling as majority of the time you get nothing in return. Once flippers were introduced these machines were a game of skill, hence becoming legal as they are not part of the definition of gambling. Loot boxes by this definition are 100% gambling. And worst off, their predator and addictive nature should have never ever been introduced into the hands of adolonces and unregulated general public. The banning of Preflipper pinball machines looks extremely innocent compared to the predatory nature of loot boxes and yet they are still legal. Pinball machines may have given video games a bad rap or if you look at it a different way, given us the greatest example of why Loot boxes need to go. like 2 years ago.
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This is my comparison with loot boxes the whole time. Pinball machines prior to the addition of flippers were a game of luck (aka the shitty version of gambling as majority of the time you get nothing in return. Once flippers were introduced these machines were a game of skill, hence becoming legal as they are not part of the definition of gambling. Loot boxes by this definition are 100% gambling. And worst off, their predator and addictive nature should have never ever been introduced into the hands of adolonces and unregulated general public. The banning of Preflipper pinball machines looks extremely innocent compared to the predatory nature of loot boxes and yet they are still legal. Pinball machines may have given video games a bad rap or if you look at it a different way, given us the greatest example of why Loot boxes need to go. like 2 years ago.
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-roidroid
Huh it's kinda the other way around in Australia where Poker Machines are a problem for - not kids - but RETIREES.
A sizable amount of Australia would like to see them banned outright. They've ruined pub culture, with most pubs thesedays having rooms full of pokies rather than live music.
In many respects they resemble those pin-ball games of olde, no flippers, just pumping endless coins into a game of chance.
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Huh it's kinda the other way around in Australia where Poker Machines are a problem for - not kids - but RETIREES.
A sizable amount of Australia would like to see them banned outright. They've ruined pub culture, with most pubs thesedays having rooms full of pokies rather than live music.
In many respects they resemble those pin-ball games of olde, no flippers, just pumping endless coins into a game of chance.
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-spetterman2916
You forgot to add that pool/pinball halls also had a lot of them turn into video game halls in the late 70s to early 80s before the video game crash in USA. This also gave them a bad wrap because it was a place for adults to drink, gamble, play video games etc but also for children to hang out, smoke and do whatever they wanted without the eye of their parents.
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You forgot to add that pool/pinball halls also had a lot of them turn into video game halls in the late 70s to early 80s before the video game crash in USA. This also gave them a bad wrap because it was a place for adults to drink, gamble, play video games etc but also for children to hang out, smoke and do whatever they wanted without the eye of their parents.
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-SnackHouse
As someone who grew up around Pinball this is actually really interesting, I legit didn-t know anything about this and it-s fascinating! I will say one thing however, shaking the machine enough to move the ball but not enough to tilt is a strategy the pros use even today, I would know seeing as my little brother won the title of Pinball World Champion in 2016
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As someone who grew up around Pinball this is actually really interesting, I legit didn-t know anything about this and it-s fascinating! I will say one thing however, shaking the machine enough to move the ball but not enough to tilt is a strategy the pros use even today, I would know seeing as my little brother won the title of Pinball World Champion in 2016
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-blur128
You didn't really connect how pinball gave video games a bad name. I get where you were going with it but the point was never actually made. You just made an obscure connection with how pinball was hated there for that's why video games get a lot of flack. Thats about it. I think you missed the mark.
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You didn't really connect how pinball gave video games a bad name. I get where you were going with it but the point was never actually made. You just made an obscure connection with how pinball was hated there for that's why video games get a lot of flack. Thats about it. I think you missed the mark.
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-anannon8384
The problem isn't pinball or video games, it's the profit motive that invents things to exploit addictive personalities. These past times could do without it's legacy of gambling methods and be much better for it.
The issue _isn't_ entertainment, its -Capitalism. -
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The problem isn't pinball or video games, it's the profit motive that invents things to exploit addictive personalities. These past times could do without it's legacy of gambling methods and be much better for it.
The issue _isn't_ entertainment, its -Capitalism. -
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-scottydog6713
fun fact! in astrology, games and gambling are both ruled by leo! games and gambling have always been very closely intertwined all throughout human history as well. even old, simple games can become gambling just by putting some money on the table lol
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fun fact! in astrology, games and gambling are both ruled by leo! games and gambling have always been very closely intertwined all throughout human history as well. even old, simple games can become gambling just by putting some money on the table lol
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-YourFriendTnt
Itll be fine soon enough the generation growing up with videogames will grow up and this pushing games-violence and gambling together will die out because we know it dosent cause violence and is not inherently gambling unless EA makes the game
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Itll be fine soon enough the generation growing up with videogames will grow up and this pushing games-violence and gambling together will die out because we know it dosent cause violence and is not inherently gambling unless EA makes the game
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-Rachel-ph5dy
This is so interesting! I've been researching the overlap between video games and gambling from a legal standpoint for an article and Simone brought up some information and ideas I hadn't come across before that gave me a new perspective
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This is so interesting! I've been researching the overlap between video games and gambling from a legal standpoint for an article and Simone brought up some information and ideas I hadn't come across before that gave me a new perspective
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-maidenchynna2725
I always hear peple being very one sided on this topic. But Is there a possibility that it's actually in the middle? That for some people it doesn't change them for the worse but for others it encourages violent behavior?
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I always hear peple being very one sided on this topic. But Is there a possibility that it's actually in the middle? That for some people it doesn't change them for the worse but for others it encourages violent behavior?
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-Wyattap125
This is great reporting and writing with good voice over and video clip additions. Except for having the main reporter recorded in. A corner? I like the video, 5 stars. But just get a good backdrop for your reporter lol
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This is great reporting and writing with good voice over and video clip additions. Except for having the main reporter recorded in. A corner? I like the video, 5 stars. But just get a good backdrop for your reporter lol
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-dilshmil7240
We were just talking about this in our Business of Video Games class at NYU! Even the comparison to Fortnite and Lootboxes today. Pretty sure you've been talking with Joost Van Dreunen, Simone!
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We were just talking about this in our Business of Video Games class at NYU! Even the comparison to Fortnite and Lootboxes today. Pretty sure you've been talking with Joost Van Dreunen, Simone!
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-whosmaya666
Great video, as always. But I'd love it if you put citations in the description or something, so I could continue to learn about the topic on my own. Thank you for your amazing videos anyway!
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Great video, as always. But I'd love it if you put citations in the description or something, so I could continue to learn about the topic on my own. Thank you for your amazing videos anyway!
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-mermaidfinn
my dad's had a pinball machine since he was 12 because he won it in a pinball competition. i've always loved playing it AND video games so this history is so so fascinating! love u simone!
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my dad's had a pinball machine since he was 12 because he won it in a pinball competition. i've always loved playing it AND video games so this history is so so fascinating! love u simone!
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polygon
well i know who to send this to.
my dad. he LOVES pinball, and he loves video games (and he got all of his children into gaming.
if only he knew it was A TRICKERY SLOPE INTO GAMBILING!
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well i know who to send this to.
my dad. he LOVES pinball, and he loves video games (and he got all of his children into gaming.
if only he knew it was A TRICKERY SLOPE INTO GAMBILING!
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-jamiehendrix2568
Regardless of whether early pinball machines were sinful gateways to gambling, i think we can all agree it was a really shitty game and they should have been thrown in the river
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Regardless of whether early pinball machines were sinful gateways to gambling, i think we can all agree it was a really shitty game and they should have been thrown in the river
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-RossLlewallyn
And then there's also that whole story about someone who had to play pinball in a courtroom to prove that it was a game of skill rather than pure chance, therefore not gambling.
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And then there's also that whole story about someone who had to play pinball in a courtroom to prove that it was a game of skill rather than pure chance, therefore not gambling.
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polygon
This was not in depth enough. Many videos on Polygon have been fantastic but this, felt more insincere and buzzfeed like. Please improve and provide more indepth details and coverage.
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This was not in depth enough. Many videos on Polygon have been fantastic but this, felt more insincere and buzzfeed like. Please improve and provide more indepth details and coverage.
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-miss-jerk175
I do wonder what it is about humans that we love games of chance so much, even though we know the odds are terrible, there's something about it that very easily pull us in
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I do wonder what it is about humans that we love games of chance so much, even though we know the odds are terrible, there's something about it that very easily pull us in
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-ChrisWCorp
What an absolutely fantastic, interesting, and educating video. So cool to learn a little bit about pinball and its relation to video games today. Great job Simone.
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What an absolutely fantastic, interesting, and educating video. So cool to learn a little bit about pinball and its relation to video games today. Great job Simone.
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-braedon26
Mmmm I love pinball. The real ones with flippers and such. The bells and lights and just simple fun has them remaining as my favorite all around game machine
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Mmmm I love pinball. The real ones with flippers and such. The bells and lights and just simple fun has them remaining as my favorite all around game machine
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-onelazynoob15
Neat video, but just as an aside, loot boxes ARE gambling and shouldn't be in games. or at least people shouldn't be able to buy them with real money.
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Neat video, but just as an aside, loot boxes ARE gambling and shouldn't be in games. or at least people shouldn't be able to buy them with real money.
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-paige_404
Surprised you didn't mention Nintendo's own history with gambling and organized crime, printing hanafuda cards long before they were making video games.
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Surprised you didn't mention Nintendo's own history with gambling and organized crime, printing hanafuda cards long before they were making video games.
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-lylelay
You keep saying Pinball and showing pictures of Bingo machines (I admit most of your closeups are Pinballs but the old long shots are mostly Bingos)
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You keep saying Pinball and showing pictures of Bingo machines (I admit most of your closeups are Pinballs but the old long shots are mostly Bingos)
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-pigsareit
The intro made me angry and I almost just disliked and quit the video. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened to a lot of other video game fans
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The intro made me angry and I almost just disliked and quit the video. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened to a lot of other video game fans
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-wohdinhel
Games are no more gambling than movies. People don-t see movies as a -gamble- on whether or not they will -enjoy- the movie, right?
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Games are no more gambling than movies. People don-t see movies as a -gamble- on whether or not they will -enjoy- the movie, right?
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-parkeraddams7590
I will watch any video that Simone is in, thank you Polygon, please give her a raise or at least a crisp high-five.
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I will watch any video that Simone is in, thank you Polygon, please give her a raise or at least a crisp high-five.
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-Mekiv1
I enjoyed this video but the pacing between sentences seemed awkwardly slow. I don't know why but it made me uncomfortable.
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I enjoyed this video but the pacing between sentences seemed awkwardly slow. I don't know why but it made me uncomfortable.
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-Larbado
Hey Polygon, do yall think you might ever do a video showing some of Cass Murphy's MMO stunts? I want wine mom videos.
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Hey Polygon, do yall think you might ever do a video showing some of Cass Murphy's MMO stunts? I want wine mom videos.
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