
Why Depressed People Are Logical (Depressive Realism)
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Date: 2024-07-24
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lerneanlion
After watching this video, I feel the need to ask some questions:
1 Do you guys think those who are aggressive warhawks are now being portrayed as logical realists while those who are peace-loving doves are being portrayed as idealistic fools by the mainstream media
2 Are peoples like Hange and Armin too optomistic to the point of being nothing naive and foolish idealists for refusing to see that Marley as a nation is nothing but a bully that likes to do whatever they wanted because they are the most powerful one around The same can be said about Queen Calca from Overlord as well.
3 If what I said about the media in the first one is proven to be true, why the media promoted this kind of thing Why promoted the idea of using violence and military actions as the solutions to all problems in the first place
I asked these questions because until recently, I used to be a depressive and aggressive warhawk who used what happened to me in the past, what I've read in history of humanity in general and my desire for equality for everyone to justify my aggressive personality and my zero tolerance policy against the bullies when feeling threatened. So was I wrong for being a warhawk Was I wrong for believing in the school of thought known as Legalism that preached that all humans are inherently evil and very selfish creatures that needed to be controlled
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After watching this video, I feel the need to ask some questions:
1 Do you guys think those who are aggressive warhawks are now being portrayed as logical realists while those who are peace-loving doves are being portrayed as idealistic fools by the mainstream media
2 Are peoples like Hange and Armin too optomistic to the point of being nothing naive and foolish idealists for refusing to see that Marley as a nation is nothing but a bully that likes to do whatever they wanted because they are the most powerful one around The same can be said about Queen Calca from Overlord as well.
3 If what I said about the media in the first one is proven to be true, why the media promoted this kind of thing Why promoted the idea of using violence and military actions as the solutions to all problems in the first place
I asked these questions because until recently, I used to be a depressive and aggressive warhawk who used what happened to me in the past, what I've read in history of humanity in general and my desire for equality for everyone to justify my aggressive personality and my zero tolerance policy against the bullies when feeling threatened. So was I wrong for being a warhawk Was I wrong for believing in the school of thought known as Legalism that preached that all humans are inherently evil and very selfish creatures that needed to be controlled
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Raj-gz9yh
depression is not sadness it is a state of detachment from emotion, so basically depressed people turn off the emotional side of their brain and rely only on the logical side of their brain to navigate the world and themselves. Depressed minds turn to rationalization and logical thinking as a way to avoid the risk of pain they have previously associated with emotion. Because depressed people 'switch on' the logical side of their thinking, they exercise that side of their mind a lot more and so over time they might actually become more logical of a thinker. Of course you don't want to stay in a depressed state for a long time because it still negatively impacts your cognitive abilities, but I do think that experiencing one period of depression in your life is actually really important in order for you to develop skills such as logical thinking, a realistic view on life, self-awareness and evaluation, etc.
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depression is not sadness it is a state of detachment from emotion, so basically depressed people turn off the emotional side of their brain and rely only on the logical side of their brain to navigate the world and themselves. Depressed minds turn to rationalization and logical thinking as a way to avoid the risk of pain they have previously associated with emotion. Because depressed people 'switch on' the logical side of their thinking, they exercise that side of their mind a lot more and so over time they might actually become more logical of a thinker. Of course you don't want to stay in a depressed state for a long time because it still negatively impacts your cognitive abilities, but I do think that experiencing one period of depression in your life is actually really important in order for you to develop skills such as logical thinking, a realistic view on life, self-awareness and evaluation, etc.
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Xavier1.
I feel like this i know there isn't much i can do as i grew up in foster care, and i did not graduate high school. I have no doors open for me. I can't go back to school cause I can't afford it and need to work a lot because im working lower paying jobs. Im stuck
I also have social anxiety to the point where going to the groceries is hard for me. Being a man, im ashamed of this. i try to look at the bigger picture, but honestly, it just looks like 60 years of misery, so why even bother.
Bieng, this logical, also makes me realize that S is not the answer, and i will have to work hard for my life, but is it worth it Based on my experience, nothing ever works out, so why would this work Im just laying here waiting for time to pass. Anyways im sorry for dumping this on you guys. i just have no one to talk to about these things.
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I feel like this i know there isn't much i can do as i grew up in foster care, and i did not graduate high school. I have no doors open for me. I can't go back to school cause I can't afford it and need to work a lot because im working lower paying jobs. Im stuck
I also have social anxiety to the point where going to the groceries is hard for me. Being a man, im ashamed of this. i try to look at the bigger picture, but honestly, it just looks like 60 years of misery, so why even bother.
Bieng, this logical, also makes me realize that S is not the answer, and i will have to work hard for my life, but is it worth it Based on my experience, nothing ever works out, so why would this work Im just laying here waiting for time to pass. Anyways im sorry for dumping this on you guys. i just have no one to talk to about these things.
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cynical5150
yea, i kinda relate to this a lot, and i used to be so cynical and pessimistic, but i came to realize that not everyone is bad and not everyone will hurt you like those that hurt you. And that even if you are down in a dark pit, u can always find a way out if you try. i find that that mindset stopped me from being motivated and kept me from truly showing my loving nature towards people that i truly love and care about. so whoevers going through rough times and depression, take ur time, breathe, vision yourself free from that stressful situation, work towards it slowly 1 step at a time, and dont be afraid to find comfort from the people who truly loves you and would only want you to succeed. i would not have made it out from this dark pit without the people around me
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yea, i kinda relate to this a lot, and i used to be so cynical and pessimistic, but i came to realize that not everyone is bad and not everyone will hurt you like those that hurt you. And that even if you are down in a dark pit, u can always find a way out if you try. i find that that mindset stopped me from being motivated and kept me from truly showing my loving nature towards people that i truly love and care about. so whoevers going through rough times and depression, take ur time, breathe, vision yourself free from that stressful situation, work towards it slowly 1 step at a time, and dont be afraid to find comfort from the people who truly loves you and would only want you to succeed. i would not have made it out from this dark pit without the people around me
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ironDsteele
Truth tellers punch hole in peoples' facades, and do not engage in the magical thinking that most do. They don't suffer the endemic cognitive dissonance that plagues our society. As a result, they are often demonized and cast out of peer groups, looked down upon by family, and labeled derogatory names by those in charge. They often say what needs to be said when no one else is capable and often pay the price for saying it. We also know that this is a losing battle. No wonder we're depressed.
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Truth tellers punch hole in peoples' facades, and do not engage in the magical thinking that most do. They don't suffer the endemic cognitive dissonance that plagues our society. As a result, they are often demonized and cast out of peer groups, looked down upon by family, and labeled derogatory names by those in charge. They often say what needs to be said when no one else is capable and often pay the price for saying it. We also know that this is a losing battle. No wonder we're depressed.
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andreajones65
Being a depressed, autistic girl, its soooo important to keep a balance between cynicism and positivity, while still remaining open to new friends and true to your boundaries of not accepting abusive ones. Especially when everyone knows you're the best therapist, but keep in mind reciprocity and if they wont help that in return, you dont have to always be the hero for someone who wont treat you with the same kindness and love.
Edit: 3: 56 talks about balance
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Being a depressed, autistic girl, its soooo important to keep a balance between cynicism and positivity, while still remaining open to new friends and true to your boundaries of not accepting abusive ones. Especially when everyone knows you're the best therapist, but keep in mind reciprocity and if they wont help that in return, you dont have to always be the hero for someone who wont treat you with the same kindness and love.
Edit: 3: 56 talks about balance
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Vishfeast
As someone who has battled depression I believe i gained a tremendous amount of introspective of going through the highs/lows of life and it really made the good days feel good and the bad days well I learnt eventually to be more positive and I now settle on, tomorrow is going to be a better day. I work through my bad days. Try my best to make peace and at ease with the negatives going on in my life. And usually now with that my set, the next day feels like a W!
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As someone who has battled depression I believe i gained a tremendous amount of introspective of going through the highs/lows of life and it really made the good days feel good and the bad days well I learnt eventually to be more positive and I now settle on, tomorrow is going to be a better day. I work through my bad days. Try my best to make peace and at ease with the negatives going on in my life. And usually now with that my set, the next day feels like a W!
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BochuJay
I’ve wrestled with depression in the past, and I’ve also been in a place of hyper joy, neither are a good place to be at, but experiencing both definitely give you a balance of reality, and being content of doing your best to make a great outcome in all circumstances and be blessed in it. There’s definitely wisdom to take from it to be able to counsel yourself and help others with the experiences
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I’ve wrestled with depression in the past, and I’ve also been in a place of hyper joy, neither are a good place to be at, but experiencing both definitely give you a balance of reality, and being content of doing your best to make a great outcome in all circumstances and be blessed in it. There’s definitely wisdom to take from it to be able to counsel yourself and help others with the experiences
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ztwilisrealm
Yes I am depressed, but that doesn't mean I don't want the world be to a happy place. Keep being happy and do what you can to better future generations to live longer and create things for our world without harming others or oneself in the process. I'm just depressed cus I'm afraid that world won't happen and it's hard to fight that pain with a smile sometimes. I keep trying to be nice either way.
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Yes I am depressed, but that doesn't mean I don't want the world be to a happy place. Keep being happy and do what you can to better future generations to live longer and create things for our world without harming others or oneself in the process. I'm just depressed cus I'm afraid that world won't happen and it's hard to fight that pain with a smile sometimes. I keep trying to be nice either way.
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Fandomerr7
I think my logic just works because when I was little like 1-7 we moved around a lot, like states over months, so at this point I try to assess what will happen to me if I move again (which I won’t but don’t trust that fact, I try to figure out my course of action to protect myself from being sad like I have before. So I think situations through and I acknowledge all possible outcomes.
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I think my logic just works because when I was little like 1-7 we moved around a lot, like states over months, so at this point I try to assess what will happen to me if I move again (which I won’t but don’t trust that fact, I try to figure out my course of action to protect myself from being sad like I have before. So I think situations through and I acknowledge all possible outcomes.
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321GhostRider123
Thats why i switched back to tell people everything is ok. At least then no one tells you your pessimistic, or everything will be good, or some other stuff i don't belive in. If you don't actualy care how i feel and just want to throw random phrases at me so you feel better cause you think you did something good then please do me a favor and safe us both the wastet time.
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Thats why i switched back to tell people everything is ok. At least then no one tells you your pessimistic, or everything will be good, or some other stuff i don't belive in. If you don't actualy care how i feel and just want to throw random phrases at me so you feel better cause you think you did something good then please do me a favor and safe us both the wastet time.
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greenowl2834
Could you guys do a video about how some people just don’t change and HOW we could still try to help them / bring out the good in them
Or
You know how some people do really bad things Could you do a video on either how we can forgive them no matter what or give advice to those people about how they are messing up their own lives and the lives of people around them
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Could you guys do a video about how some people just don’t change and HOW we could still try to help them / bring out the good in them
Or
You know how some people do really bad things Could you do a video on either how we can forgive them no matter what or give advice to those people about how they are messing up their own lives and the lives of people around them
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SweetAsYoni
I have severe depression, but ppl think I'm more mature and intelligent than I am. My ex practically demonized me for being negative all the time when I'm just being rational and realistic. (Sorry that real life can't be a fairytale. My depression improved since I'm no longer codependent on someone and happy by myself and my dog.
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I have severe depression, but ppl think I'm more mature and intelligent than I am. My ex practically demonized me for being negative all the time when I'm just being rational and realistic. (Sorry that real life can't be a fairytale. My depression improved since I'm no longer codependent on someone and happy by myself and my dog.
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sarahn. h355
I have this problem. And I try not to be TOO pessimistic. But when I have a compounding of bad days. i just don’t want to wake up in the morning.
I also see no point in going to a therapist because they will just tell me what I already know lol. Just try and find the silver lining.
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I have this problem. And I try not to be TOO pessimistic. But when I have a compounding of bad days. i just don’t want to wake up in the morning.
I also see no point in going to a therapist because they will just tell me what I already know lol. Just try and find the silver lining.
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ericsmith6677
i have a diagnosies ofmajor deppresive disorder and its sucks me dry of any joy on a daily basis and i can assure you being logical is a curse in this clown world. it causes issues in relationships, work and everything else it sucks but being a realist is the onyl way to be in my opinion
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i have a diagnosies ofmajor deppresive disorder and its sucks me dry of any joy on a daily basis and i can assure you being logical is a curse in this clown world. it causes issues in relationships, work and everything else it sucks but being a realist is the onyl way to be in my opinion
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friendlybendy2070
The real problem is that society as of late associates such talk as 'irrational rambling while being high on something', so these perspective keep getting obscured from thee public eye, its legitimately disappointing for me to be part of the witnesses of this negative trend
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The real problem is that society as of late associates such talk as 'irrational rambling while being high on something', so these perspective keep getting obscured from thee public eye, its legitimately disappointing for me to be part of the witnesses of this negative trend
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MxPotato84
This will give my psychologist a kick in the pants. She thinks im my depression makes me a doomer and should be sent away to a hospital. This video literally explains how i think and feel. Im not a doomer. Theres just too many grey clouds blocking the sun in my life.
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This will give my psychologist a kick in the pants. She thinks im my depression makes me a doomer and should be sent away to a hospital. This video literally explains how i think and feel. Im not a doomer. Theres just too many grey clouds blocking the sun in my life.
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Bored_Overthinker
Oh, that explains a lot. I think one of my favorite things about taking an antidepressant and bring myself out of that depression that I was in is that I can still find the nuggets of truth and logic, but not react to them in such downtrodden and negative way.
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Oh, that explains a lot. I think one of my favorite things about taking an antidepressant and bring myself out of that depression that I was in is that I can still find the nuggets of truth and logic, but not react to them in such downtrodden and negative way.
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A55a551n
Timestamps
1. Depressive realism 0: 25
2. Heightened awareness 1: 09
3. Self-evaluation 1: 37
4. Explanatory style 2: 02
5. Overgeneralization 2: 32
6. Pessimism 2: 51
Hope this helps you out. Hope you have a nice day. Sorry this is so late.
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Timestamps
1. Depressive realism 0: 25
2. Heightened awareness 1: 09
3. Self-evaluation 1: 37
4. Explanatory style 2: 02
5. Overgeneralization 2: 32
6. Pessimism 2: 51
Hope this helps you out. Hope you have a nice day. Sorry this is so late.
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Phane02
I was like that, then I accepted complete and total defeatism. Now no more stress, anxiety, tension, or constant exhaustion. My worries and outlook on life is meaningless, I live to live and nothing more. No striving, but no struggling either; it set me free.
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I was like that, then I accepted complete and total defeatism. Now no more stress, anxiety, tension, or constant exhaustion. My worries and outlook on life is meaningless, I live to live and nothing more. No striving, but no struggling either; it set me free.
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