Can Narcissists Change
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Date: 2024-07-01
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Shadowcat753
It would depend on why the person is a narcissist, if you ask me.
If it's due to genetic factors, no, this person cannot ever not be a narcissist. It's literally just an issue of how their brains are wired from the start in that case.
Keep in mind, I am saying this as someone with an Autism diagnosis here. That would be like asking some who has autism to somehow be cured of their developmental disorder with just therapy. Sure, you can have therapy of a thousand types for them; they can mask, fake being normal, but they'll never be able to Neurotypical. They will always still have some traits (both negative and/or positive) of the Autism because it's literally just part of them. It's literally an issue of their brains being wired towards a particular neuro-type from the start. Unfortunately, if it's due to genetics, I doubt you'll ever successfully get the person that's a narcissist to not be a narcissist because it's literally an issue of brain wiring that's down their genetic coding.
It's like having a Mac programming based rather than a PC's, if you try to program a MacBook with PC updates, it's just not going to work. You can try downloading it a billion times bit unless you have a version that can work with a Mac instead, that PC update is just going to cause problems at best.
If it's due to upbringing instead, the answer would be a solid maybe. Yes, they would have to want to change first.
This is because rather than having this as the person's basic genetic and/or neurological programming, it would be more like being a sociopath. Sociopaths do have the ability to change for the better or worse since sociopathy is basically becoming numb to the feelings of others doe to abuse and/or neglect. Basically summed up in one sentence, if others don't give a damn about you, why should you give a damn about others
This happens because certain behaviors helped them in an advantageous manner. You can unlearn past-learned behaviors if you can replace them with other behaviors that still works with the individual's needs and/or wants. It's more like replacing an outdated program with an updated one that still 90% of the same job, do it enough times and you'll have a better working computer program.
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It would depend on why the person is a narcissist, if you ask me.
If it's due to genetic factors, no, this person cannot ever not be a narcissist. It's literally just an issue of how their brains are wired from the start in that case.
Keep in mind, I am saying this as someone with an Autism diagnosis here. That would be like asking some who has autism to somehow be cured of their developmental disorder with just therapy. Sure, you can have therapy of a thousand types for them; they can mask, fake being normal, but they'll never be able to Neurotypical. They will always still have some traits (both negative and/or positive) of the Autism because it's literally just part of them. It's literally an issue of their brains being wired towards a particular neuro-type from the start. Unfortunately, if it's due to genetics, I doubt you'll ever successfully get the person that's a narcissist to not be a narcissist because it's literally an issue of brain wiring that's down their genetic coding.
It's like having a Mac programming based rather than a PC's, if you try to program a MacBook with PC updates, it's just not going to work. You can try downloading it a billion times bit unless you have a version that can work with a Mac instead, that PC update is just going to cause problems at best.
If it's due to upbringing instead, the answer would be a solid maybe. Yes, they would have to want to change first.
This is because rather than having this as the person's basic genetic and/or neurological programming, it would be more like being a sociopath. Sociopaths do have the ability to change for the better or worse since sociopathy is basically becoming numb to the feelings of others doe to abuse and/or neglect. Basically summed up in one sentence, if others don't give a damn about you, why should you give a damn about others
This happens because certain behaviors helped them in an advantageous manner. You can unlearn past-learned behaviors if you can replace them with other behaviors that still works with the individual's needs and/or wants. It's more like replacing an outdated program with an updated one that still 90% of the same job, do it enough times and you'll have a better working computer program.
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saanalder5107
I hate how NPD people are always a they. Everyone talks about them as if they are some kind of monsters.
People with NPD are human.
I don't have NPD (not diagnosed, but I have narcissistic traits for sure. The comments in here make me uneasy. Narcissistic people can be terrible people, but they are people first. I'm sorry you've been treated badly, but maybe you have always been treated badly by them because the only one you recognise as narcissistic people are the people who treat you badly.
Some narcissistic people understand something is wrong with them and don't act narcissistic, especially if they have another mental condition (which is likely to happen with comorbidity) like depression or BPD.
People can manage their narcissistic traits, or hide them, to be able to have a good social life, once they understand they have narcissistic traits. So it's totally possible you interact with people with NPD in a daily basis. Some estimations say about 5% of the population have NPD. I don't think all of that population always treat others badly.
It's so ableist, and narcissistic to think YOU are the first victim of NPD. No, the first victim of NPD is the person with NPD. The world doesn't revolve around you. I'm sorry you had to suffer, I truly am, but you suffered because of a shitty person first, not because of a person with NPD.
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I hate how NPD people are always a they. Everyone talks about them as if they are some kind of monsters.
People with NPD are human.
I don't have NPD (not diagnosed, but I have narcissistic traits for sure. The comments in here make me uneasy. Narcissistic people can be terrible people, but they are people first. I'm sorry you've been treated badly, but maybe you have always been treated badly by them because the only one you recognise as narcissistic people are the people who treat you badly.
Some narcissistic people understand something is wrong with them and don't act narcissistic, especially if they have another mental condition (which is likely to happen with comorbidity) like depression or BPD.
People can manage their narcissistic traits, or hide them, to be able to have a good social life, once they understand they have narcissistic traits. So it's totally possible you interact with people with NPD in a daily basis. Some estimations say about 5% of the population have NPD. I don't think all of that population always treat others badly.
It's so ableist, and narcissistic to think YOU are the first victim of NPD. No, the first victim of NPD is the person with NPD. The world doesn't revolve around you. I'm sorry you had to suffer, I truly am, but you suffered because of a shitty person first, not because of a person with NPD.
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nikovol555
It is quite unusual for me to say, but. I do have something about narcissist that can change. Cuz I am one (Not with NPD, just observing most of narcissistic behaviour in myselt. At first, it didn't even bother me, and i accepted all of this, including (fake-self, just because i was behaving this way almost all my life, why change And if not why, then, how to change Then, i don't really know what actually happened, but my (totaly failed) relationship gave me at least some empaphy, even though, i didn't really understood it, just because this was the first thing i wanted to get rid of after relationship fell apart in the worst case possible, or so i thought. Luckily, my next relationship WERE succesful, and after some time i noticed that something was off, and that the way i behave might harm my loved one, and i tottaly don't want this to happen. I already was treating sociophobia and depression with therapist at the time, and the thing i understood in moment is that this narcissism is not for good, and might ruin my plans for life, so i wanted to get rid of it. Instead, therapist helped me to use all of this traits for good things. So yeah, narcissist actually can change, the question is: Will he try
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It is quite unusual for me to say, but. I do have something about narcissist that can change. Cuz I am one (Not with NPD, just observing most of narcissistic behaviour in myselt. At first, it didn't even bother me, and i accepted all of this, including (fake-self, just because i was behaving this way almost all my life, why change And if not why, then, how to change Then, i don't really know what actually happened, but my (totaly failed) relationship gave me at least some empaphy, even though, i didn't really understood it, just because this was the first thing i wanted to get rid of after relationship fell apart in the worst case possible, or so i thought. Luckily, my next relationship WERE succesful, and after some time i noticed that something was off, and that the way i behave might harm my loved one, and i tottaly don't want this to happen. I already was treating sociophobia and depression with therapist at the time, and the thing i understood in moment is that this narcissism is not for good, and might ruin my plans for life, so i wanted to get rid of it. Instead, therapist helped me to use all of this traits for good things. So yeah, narcissist actually can change, the question is: Will he try
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OlegBagriy-jl1jj
From my personal experience I can say only this. I'm not buying into the fairytale that a narcissist can ever change for better or that they can somehow learn empathy. This video can be harmful for some people who after watching it might believe that there's still a hope that the narcissist they are dealing with in their life can change and can start to treat them kindly. And so they might give them a second chance again and again and get stuck in this vicious cycle for the rest of their life and never get free. Just because some respected psychiatrist said that there is a possibility.
I grew up with a grandiose narcissistic controlling father. He's in his late sixtieth now. For many years I've been hoping that he can become a little less rough and a little kinder. I've been watching him over the years. But his narcissism, his grandiosity, arrogance, lack of empathy, entitlement and abuse of others are only getting so much worse with age.
I wish I had been a realist in the past and stopped giving him second chances. There would be much less suffering and negativity in my life.
To whoever is dealing with an abusive person in their life, I'm wishing you freedom and true happiness.
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From my personal experience I can say only this. I'm not buying into the fairytale that a narcissist can ever change for better or that they can somehow learn empathy. This video can be harmful for some people who after watching it might believe that there's still a hope that the narcissist they are dealing with in their life can change and can start to treat them kindly. And so they might give them a second chance again and again and get stuck in this vicious cycle for the rest of their life and never get free. Just because some respected psychiatrist said that there is a possibility.
I grew up with a grandiose narcissistic controlling father. He's in his late sixtieth now. For many years I've been hoping that he can become a little less rough and a little kinder. I've been watching him over the years. But his narcissism, his grandiosity, arrogance, lack of empathy, entitlement and abuse of others are only getting so much worse with age.
I wish I had been a realist in the past and stopped giving him second chances. There would be much less suffering and negativity in my life.
To whoever is dealing with an abusive person in their life, I'm wishing you freedom and true happiness.
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ktryushi4744
Narcissist are pathetic. Narcissists can only change when they’re getting older 50-60. Because they don’t want to end up alone and want the supplies and they will control their actions, they’re pathetic I can break them
so easily. As an diagnosed with ASPD and schizoid by age 26 with muted emotions, blunted. We basically don’t care about people feelings at all. We don’t care if we die alone, we don’t care if society collapses, we don’t care about society rules, we don’t invest our emotions on people feelings. We don’t feel love, we have limited empathy for the people we really care about. Narcissists: toxic, pathetic, abusers. ASPD: don’t care attitude, cold, uncaring, mean, cruel at times not going to lie. I also believe that human nature is intrinsically evil and that deep down people only care about themselves. But abusing people No. What do we get from it boosting our pathetic ego to feel superior about ourselves by abusing people Revenge Because we had boo hoo severe childhood trauma Oh please. No excuse to harm people. You know what kind of people narcissist can’t handle it Borderline individuals. Borderline individuals will eat narcissist alive, it will be chaos.
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Narcissist are pathetic. Narcissists can only change when they’re getting older 50-60. Because they don’t want to end up alone and want the supplies and they will control their actions, they’re pathetic I can break them
so easily. As an diagnosed with ASPD and schizoid by age 26 with muted emotions, blunted. We basically don’t care about people feelings at all. We don’t care if we die alone, we don’t care if society collapses, we don’t care about society rules, we don’t invest our emotions on people feelings. We don’t feel love, we have limited empathy for the people we really care about. Narcissists: toxic, pathetic, abusers. ASPD: don’t care attitude, cold, uncaring, mean, cruel at times not going to lie. I also believe that human nature is intrinsically evil and that deep down people only care about themselves. But abusing people No. What do we get from it boosting our pathetic ego to feel superior about ourselves by abusing people Revenge Because we had boo hoo severe childhood trauma Oh please. No excuse to harm people. You know what kind of people narcissist can’t handle it Borderline individuals. Borderline individuals will eat narcissist alive, it will be chaos.
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psych2go
Yup. thanks for not demonising and stigmatising this disorder. its a mental health condition like any other else. Im a person with narc traits and maybe npd (not diagnosed but can relate to it a lot. it takes a lot of self acceptance, self love and self compassion to change. Addresing past traumas, working on our emotional regulation, willingnes to change for the good and to work on ourselves for the sake of it. Since we work on ourselves we also stop hurting other people around us and break patterns and improve relationships. it took me hitting on the rock bottom (i lost my dad) to be self aware and honest with myself. There are plenty of examples like spirit narc and people on subreddit npd who have identified their toxic behaviours and are willing to change. its not like that we cant be self aware but if somebody else is gonna tell the narc to change its most likely that he/she is not gonna change. it has to come from their side, from their within. Not all narcs are abusers. Some are just deeply insecure and broken and need safety, love, care and attention and need to understand that they can trust their loved ones and they are not gonna hurt them as they were in their childhood. Great video!
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Yup. thanks for not demonising and stigmatising this disorder. its a mental health condition like any other else. Im a person with narc traits and maybe npd (not diagnosed but can relate to it a lot. it takes a lot of self acceptance, self love and self compassion to change. Addresing past traumas, working on our emotional regulation, willingnes to change for the good and to work on ourselves for the sake of it. Since we work on ourselves we also stop hurting other people around us and break patterns and improve relationships. it took me hitting on the rock bottom (i lost my dad) to be self aware and honest with myself. There are plenty of examples like spirit narc and people on subreddit npd who have identified their toxic behaviours and are willing to change. its not like that we cant be self aware but if somebody else is gonna tell the narc to change its most likely that he/she is not gonna change. it has to come from their side, from their within. Not all narcs are abusers. Some are just deeply insecure and broken and need safety, love, care and attention and need to understand that they can trust their loved ones and they are not gonna hurt them as they were in their childhood. Great video!
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Psychedlia98
One last comment I would like to make, I am disappointed, but understanding, that people in the comments have vile reaction to people with NPD, and I understand. I was hurt by someone with that condition too, but instead of stewing on that resentment, I choose to find ways to how can we treat them. Yeah, it’s not easy, nothing is, but the fact that there are self-aware narcissists and that narcissist also face discrimination of their disorder, motivates me to help these people out. Yes, be firm with them, but don’t just demonize. That doesn’t solve the issue, if at all, people with autism will at times be accused of having NPD because we (autistic people) tend to lack empathy, and with the NPD scare, this will create harm for us in the autistic community. I know many people are going to try to tell me you are wasting your time you are a fool or they never change if this is the case, Lee Hammock would not exist.
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One last comment I would like to make, I am disappointed, but understanding, that people in the comments have vile reaction to people with NPD, and I understand. I was hurt by someone with that condition too, but instead of stewing on that resentment, I choose to find ways to how can we treat them. Yeah, it’s not easy, nothing is, but the fact that there are self-aware narcissists and that narcissist also face discrimination of their disorder, motivates me to help these people out. Yes, be firm with them, but don’t just demonize. That doesn’t solve the issue, if at all, people with autism will at times be accused of having NPD because we (autistic people) tend to lack empathy, and with the NPD scare, this will create harm for us in the autistic community. I know many people are going to try to tell me you are wasting your time you are a fool or they never change if this is the case, Lee Hammock would not exist.
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NikeyMiniyuh
Does anyone feel like they’re a narcissist sometimes because they have arguments with their family but never with friends, and friends always agree with you that you were right. Like my family doesn’t really speak English fluently, and they also do things differently from where theyre from, buts it’s just difficult sometimes because it’s so hard to communicate, and they just think I’m a grumpy British person, like for example they’ll say I’m too skinny I need to eat more, and I already know I’m skinny and I don’t like my body either but yeah, they think that they’re just being concerned for me, I’m not deathly skinny like I eat they just comment on my body. It’s just stuff like that, and I don’t really have anyone to talk to about it, because everyone just thinks I’m always being negative because I’m British. And they’ve told me that so.
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Does anyone feel like they’re a narcissist sometimes because they have arguments with their family but never with friends, and friends always agree with you that you were right. Like my family doesn’t really speak English fluently, and they also do things differently from where theyre from, buts it’s just difficult sometimes because it’s so hard to communicate, and they just think I’m a grumpy British person, like for example they’ll say I’m too skinny I need to eat more, and I already know I’m skinny and I don’t like my body either but yeah, they think that they’re just being concerned for me, I’m not deathly skinny like I eat they just comment on my body. It’s just stuff like that, and I don’t really have anyone to talk to about it, because everyone just thinks I’m always being negative because I’m British. And they’ve told me that so.
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airviper6
I believe I am a narcissist.
In all this, you reference the narcissist’s desire to change in order to change but I tell you, without many of my friends’ and loved ones’ support and honesty with me, I wouldn’t have grasped that change for me meansday by day, little by little, slowly breaking down negative core beliefs that had hardened years ago. Doing so often reveals a very raw part of me that I have to face, and I’m trying, but there’s no way in hell I could do this alone, as much as I want to (due to shame, and I’m not really sure anyone could.
Yes, ultimately, EVERYONE has to make the choice to change but narcissists need a lot of help: ( I believe most, if not all, narcissists feel a deep shame of who they are and fear loneliness and abandonment more than most things. But hey, I could just be projecting (:
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I believe I am a narcissist.
In all this, you reference the narcissist’s desire to change in order to change but I tell you, without many of my friends’ and loved ones’ support and honesty with me, I wouldn’t have grasped that change for me meansday by day, little by little, slowly breaking down negative core beliefs that had hardened years ago. Doing so often reveals a very raw part of me that I have to face, and I’m trying, but there’s no way in hell I could do this alone, as much as I want to (due to shame, and I’m not really sure anyone could.
Yes, ultimately, EVERYONE has to make the choice to change but narcissists need a lot of help: ( I believe most, if not all, narcissists feel a deep shame of who they are and fear loneliness and abandonment more than most things. But hey, I could just be projecting (:
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psych2go
Well, I am no diagnosed narcissist myself, but I defiantly have had and still do have mental health issues and what I believe when I was a kid personality disorders because I was in a very toxic environment. However, getting back on topic do I believe narcissists can get better, absolutely! I've been a bullied and I have also been a bully myself and at the end of the day people are a result of their environment. But once someone has been taken out of that environment or given a whole new mental perspective of life people can and defiantly want to change I know I do. However though it can be very hard when people are labeled as bad people and treated like that based on that opinion. Instead, people should try to treat someone with kindness however I am not saying take abuse from anyone always protect yourself first.
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Well, I am no diagnosed narcissist myself, but I defiantly have had and still do have mental health issues and what I believe when I was a kid personality disorders because I was in a very toxic environment. However, getting back on topic do I believe narcissists can get better, absolutely! I've been a bullied and I have also been a bully myself and at the end of the day people are a result of their environment. But once someone has been taken out of that environment or given a whole new mental perspective of life people can and defiantly want to change I know I do. However though it can be very hard when people are labeled as bad people and treated like that based on that opinion. Instead, people should try to treat someone with kindness however I am not saying take abuse from anyone always protect yourself first.
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gatorssbm
In my opinion I dont really think most can change, Id just leave them alone to the harsh truth of the world that you wont end up happy once everyone else abandons you if you keep those charades up. Sure they may revert to it after the bottom hits but thats on them if they truly want to change. And yes I am biased because one of my caretakers was one and personally Ill never forgive him for what hes done to have me go through some insane anxious panic attacks as an adult even after Ive long been away from my family. Never put up with these attitudes, hold strong boundaries and never become someones welcome mat to abuse you even if youre doing this so you can potentially help them, these people have to realize just how harmful their actions are and they only deserve to be dismissed in return.
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In my opinion I dont really think most can change, Id just leave them alone to the harsh truth of the world that you wont end up happy once everyone else abandons you if you keep those charades up. Sure they may revert to it after the bottom hits but thats on them if they truly want to change. And yes I am biased because one of my caretakers was one and personally Ill never forgive him for what hes done to have me go through some insane anxious panic attacks as an adult even after Ive long been away from my family. Never put up with these attitudes, hold strong boundaries and never become someones welcome mat to abuse you even if youre doing this so you can potentially help them, these people have to realize just how harmful their actions are and they only deserve to be dismissed in return.
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hill2hell
Pretty sure they don't lack self awareness they just don't care, I once provided proof to someone with a video of them in it being an ss, and they were still denying it to hell. She kept saying it wasn't her, I don't sound like that, blah blah. Even if she's clearly watching the video of it happening.
I also told her that why is it that when she does it to other people it's okay, but when it's done to her it's not. I clearly said it concise and legibly and to her there's just nothing wrong with what she's doing.
BTW I was calm when talking to her about it back then, so I left her. She still keeps trying to rope me in every few months or so saying that she's changed, but I just remember all the things she's done and it deeply disgusts me.
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Pretty sure they don't lack self awareness they just don't care, I once provided proof to someone with a video of them in it being an ss, and they were still denying it to hell. She kept saying it wasn't her, I don't sound like that, blah blah. Even if she's clearly watching the video of it happening.
I also told her that why is it that when she does it to other people it's okay, but when it's done to her it's not. I clearly said it concise and legibly and to her there's just nothing wrong with what she's doing.
BTW I was calm when talking to her about it back then, so I left her. She still keeps trying to rope me in every few months or so saying that she's changed, but I just remember all the things she's done and it deeply disgusts me.
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anthonyarturo7559
I experienced and observed myself exhibits narcissistic traits when I was 20. My ex girlfriend back then told me that I'm very toxic and needed help, and it made me realize how I act back then hurt her big time.
Only then when I had my dog, it started. I learned how to be patient with animals first.
I sometimes see myself being irritated to people that did bad on video games and think that I could do better than this guy, but I guess it'd always get heated when your team starts to lose. I'm not good at the games I play too so I guess backseating wouldn't do any better.
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I experienced and observed myself exhibits narcissistic traits when I was 20. My ex girlfriend back then told me that I'm very toxic and needed help, and it made me realize how I act back then hurt her big time.
Only then when I had my dog, it started. I learned how to be patient with animals first.
I sometimes see myself being irritated to people that did bad on video games and think that I could do better than this guy, but I guess it'd always get heated when your team starts to lose. I'm not good at the games I play too so I guess backseating wouldn't do any better.
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user-js5dx5yy1p
In my experience dealing with my mother, the fake toxic friend from my young adulthood, and the woman who used to bully me as a kid who never developed past that mentality, no.
Narcissists are unable to feel empathy for others. They see people as a means to an end, not as human beings with value. It takes therapeutic intervention for them to even change in the least amount.
They can’t change on their own, because you need empathy and self awareness for that. You have to take responsibility for past actions, something a narcissist cannot do.
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In my experience dealing with my mother, the fake toxic friend from my young adulthood, and the woman who used to bully me as a kid who never developed past that mentality, no.
Narcissists are unable to feel empathy for others. They see people as a means to an end, not as human beings with value. It takes therapeutic intervention for them to even change in the least amount.
They can’t change on their own, because you need empathy and self awareness for that. You have to take responsibility for past actions, something a narcissist cannot do.
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psych2go
When I feel my past trauma caused by gaslighting, isolating, devaluing I feel like I wanna revenge, I've been diagnosed with Autism, OCD as well as Schizophrenia also having a history of trauma and I believe those who bullied me due to stigma about my lack of religious beliefs by unconsented touching, damaging my property, making hate claims about my existence, religious manipulation and stealing should get what they deserve but when I explore about Sadism, Psychopathy and Narcissism as illnesses, it's kinda hard for me to curse in the way I want.
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When I feel my past trauma caused by gaslighting, isolating, devaluing I feel like I wanna revenge, I've been diagnosed with Autism, OCD as well as Schizophrenia also having a history of trauma and I believe those who bullied me due to stigma about my lack of religious beliefs by unconsented touching, damaging my property, making hate claims about my existence, religious manipulation and stealing should get what they deserve but when I explore about Sadism, Psychopathy and Narcissism as illnesses, it's kinda hard for me to curse in the way I want.
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aspirenux8599
I believe my younger brother and my dad are narcisist.
Me and my brother dont speak ourselves anymore since a 2 years.
Recently, I have started to think about he to be a narcisist.
He dont understand my depression and blames me. I hope he doesn't go through the things I went through.
i would like to see him better, but he never think about how he affects people around himself.
He is a doctor. But he says psycchology and psychatry are not science. :/ Too smart but too dumb.
about my father, i given up about him already.
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I believe my younger brother and my dad are narcisist.
Me and my brother dont speak ourselves anymore since a 2 years.
Recently, I have started to think about he to be a narcisist.
He dont understand my depression and blames me. I hope he doesn't go through the things I went through.
i would like to see him better, but he never think about how he affects people around himself.
He is a doctor. But he says psycchology and psychatry are not science. :/ Too smart but too dumb.
about my father, i given up about him already.
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mimishandle
They will always justify their hurting you because they have already convinced themselves and believe you deserved it. Idk how you can change it. Its lowkey sociopath like behavior and can be dangerous in some instances.
And they pretend to be brand new every other day lol. Go out in public with them, the way they interact with literally anyone else is complete opposite of who they are with you alone. If you mention it, theyll snap on you for being jealous or insecure. Lmao its hell. RUN.
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They will always justify their hurting you because they have already convinced themselves and believe you deserved it. Idk how you can change it. Its lowkey sociopath like behavior and can be dangerous in some instances.
And they pretend to be brand new every other day lol. Go out in public with them, the way they interact with literally anyone else is complete opposite of who they are with you alone. If you mention it, theyll snap on you for being jealous or insecure. Lmao its hell. RUN.
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redheadbelle
I think they can change if they hit rock bottom and then there are only two options: either choosing to change (with long term therapy&commitment) or behaving exactly the same ways. However I do believe it is possible to change if they truly want it. If they realise its for their own sanity. As if they continue that way, its a recipe for self destruction and there are people that can see through the masks. So why hide
Taking Lee Hammock as a role model and motivation is fantastic.
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I think they can change if they hit rock bottom and then there are only two options: either choosing to change (with long term therapy&commitment) or behaving exactly the same ways. However I do believe it is possible to change if they truly want it. If they realise its for their own sanity. As if they continue that way, its a recipe for self destruction and there are people that can see through the masks. So why hide
Taking Lee Hammock as a role model and motivation is fantastic.
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feariehollow
Sometimes the absence of hope when it comes to narcissism feels so overwhelming, because we're starting to forget that they're human. But if we always put that in mind, we might get lost in either the confusion of how human nature is capable of doing something like this, or drown in the nihilistic belief that human nature is just pure evil, or cling to the shaky but healing hope that this IS human, but not the definition of humaness. I'll choose the third for as long as I can y'all
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Sometimes the absence of hope when it comes to narcissism feels so overwhelming, because we're starting to forget that they're human. But if we always put that in mind, we might get lost in either the confusion of how human nature is capable of doing something like this, or drown in the nihilistic belief that human nature is just pure evil, or cling to the shaky but healing hope that this IS human, but not the definition of humaness. I'll choose the third for as long as I can y'all
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psych2go
I have a family member who's quite narcissistic. When I was younger, I remember my mother taking a year break from contacting them because they were acting in this manner. This family member did change for a while, but did slip back until their controlling ways again and since my mother passed away, they got worse with how they treated other family members, particularly the males in our family. I do believe they can change, but it's up to them, not me or the rest of my family.
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I have a family member who's quite narcissistic. When I was younger, I remember my mother taking a year break from contacting them because they were acting in this manner. This family member did change for a while, but did slip back until their controlling ways again and since my mother passed away, they got worse with how they treated other family members, particularly the males in our family. I do believe they can change, but it's up to them, not me or the rest of my family.
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