Is AI-Generated Art Original (Authenticity & Originality)
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Date: 2024-08-29
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crash_course
If the person following LeWitt's instructions didn't follow them properly, would it still be considered a LeWitt artwork If it's not the case, wouldn't there be a case for it not being a LeWitt artwork regardless of how well one follows the instructions, since one could argue here and there that the style or size of the wall, or number or appearance of lines didn't actually resemble LeWitt's method etc If he was alive, maybe he could settle the dispute, but what of the ones created after his death If an AI creates an artwork that didn't follow my prompt precisely, wouldn't it be subject to the same questioning regarding ownership In my personal experience, AI frequently leaves out sections of my prompts when creating art, making something I was not expecting.
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If the person following LeWitt's instructions didn't follow them properly, would it still be considered a LeWitt artwork If it's not the case, wouldn't there be a case for it not being a LeWitt artwork regardless of how well one follows the instructions, since one could argue here and there that the style or size of the wall, or number or appearance of lines didn't actually resemble LeWitt's method etc If he was alive, maybe he could settle the dispute, but what of the ones created after his death If an AI creates an artwork that didn't follow my prompt precisely, wouldn't it be subject to the same questioning regarding ownership In my personal experience, AI frequently leaves out sections of my prompts when creating art, making something I was not expecting.
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WESTMPLS
This video isn't meant to settle the debate, but instead to bring more nuance to the conversation with historically relevant pieces of info.
I understand that artist livelyhoods are at stake, and I dont think its fair to them to train AI models in their work.
But if we're talking solely about the output, I have a hard time not calling it a FORM of art itself.
Like, a meme image of a Dinosaur eating twinkles in response to a story of Twinkie sales dropping with the youth, that's still a form of social commentary Im making. It wouldn't exist without my original instruction.
Whether or not the use of these AI tools are ethical or original is a completely valid conversation that doesnt seem to have a clear answer yet.
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This video isn't meant to settle the debate, but instead to bring more nuance to the conversation with historically relevant pieces of info.
I understand that artist livelyhoods are at stake, and I dont think its fair to them to train AI models in their work.
But if we're talking solely about the output, I have a hard time not calling it a FORM of art itself.
Like, a meme image of a Dinosaur eating twinkles in response to a story of Twinkie sales dropping with the youth, that's still a form of social commentary Im making. It wouldn't exist without my original instruction.
Whether or not the use of these AI tools are ethical or original is a completely valid conversation that doesnt seem to have a clear answer yet.
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SamCridlin
AI art being Art isn't the issue for me. The issue is the AI creator using copyright protected works for educational use to create the original software, witch is fair use. But they then make commercial use of that software it is not fair use, and a license is required. Thus the Ansel Adams Foundation, NY Times, and AP all taking chat GTP to court. Leverage for a license fee. You always have to sue for copyright infringement because no one ever pays when you reach out to them.
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AI art being Art isn't the issue for me. The issue is the AI creator using copyright protected works for educational use to create the original software, witch is fair use. But they then make commercial use of that software it is not fair use, and a license is required. Thus the Ansel Adams Foundation, NY Times, and AP all taking chat GTP to court. Leverage for a license fee. You always have to sue for copyright infringement because no one ever pays when you reach out to them.
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MNSweet
I've been waiting for this topic to be tackled. To the writers, researchers, and host: well done! You did an amazing job at presenting thought-provoking unbiased factual accounts as to how this topic is not new just a new lens of which we are viewing an old topic. Undoubtedly I know I won't have to scroll far before seeing an emotionally charge post for or against AI Generative Art but I'm very happy with your portrayal of the topic in the video. Also nice set location.
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I've been waiting for this topic to be tackled. To the writers, researchers, and host: well done! You did an amazing job at presenting thought-provoking unbiased factual accounts as to how this topic is not new just a new lens of which we are viewing an old topic. Undoubtedly I know I won't have to scroll far before seeing an emotionally charge post for or against AI Generative Art but I'm very happy with your portrayal of the topic in the video. Also nice set location.
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rickson50
Nothing that humans make is ever truely original. We dont exist in isolation. Everything that we make is built on other people's work. Every time we are exposed to something it sticks in our mind and when we make something we pull from that information even if we dont realize it. Same concept as AI
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Nothing that humans make is ever truely original. We dont exist in isolation. Everything that we make is built on other people's work. Every time we are exposed to something it sticks in our mind and when we make something we pull from that information even if we dont realize it. Same concept as AI
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bunnyfreakz
AI creates artwork 1000x times faster than human could do. People spamming AI arts which makes AI arts less desirable overtime.
I don't want to bashing it too hard but AI art sometimes can create some fascinating fusion. But because there are lot of them, it lost a meaning.
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AI creates artwork 1000x times faster than human could do. People spamming AI arts which makes AI arts less desirable overtime.
I don't want to bashing it too hard but AI art sometimes can create some fascinating fusion. But because there are lot of them, it lost a meaning.
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TJtheBee
The original artists did not consent to having their work put into these generators. Many of those artists are still alive and actively working in their artistic fields.
AI is at best lazy photo manipulation and at worst a butchered attempt at theft.
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The original artists did not consent to having their work put into these generators. Many of those artists are still alive and actively working in their artistic fields.
AI is at best lazy photo manipulation and at worst a butchered attempt at theft.
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JoaoPessoa86
I think the closest things we have today to the artist's studio system are haute couture ateliers and architecture firms. The name on the dress or building is the designer but an entire team of specialists put the object together.
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I think the closest things we have today to the artist's studio system are haute couture ateliers and architecture firms. The name on the dress or building is the designer but an entire team of specialists put the object together.
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Castersvarog
Genuinely no.
Literally the only way it works is by literally harvesting other art like a parasite to create its own art.
There is fundamentally nothing original about AI creations, and there never will be
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Genuinely no.
Literally the only way it works is by literally harvesting other art like a parasite to create its own art.
There is fundamentally nothing original about AI creations, and there never will be
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Krishnendulaha
I think based on art vs craft debate we can say AI art is art. After all as you pointed out a user after all thought of it and used AI as a tool. Same as Duchamp used the toilet as Fountain to present his idea
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I think based on art vs craft debate we can say AI art is art. After all as you pointed out a user after all thought of it and used AI as a tool. Same as Duchamp used the toilet as Fountain to present his idea
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thijsjong
Art must come from the visceral embodied human experience. We have layers of culture to cover it up but thats the origin. A. i. art is an abomination.
We will get lost in simulacra losing touch with our being.
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Art must come from the visceral embodied human experience. We have layers of culture to cover it up but thats the origin. A. i. art is an abomination.
We will get lost in simulacra losing touch with our being.
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Corey. Coolidge
Crash Course: Here's a thought provoking and nuanced take on intellectual property. It's many faceted and shows how this is a philosophical question as much as a legal one.
Comments: AI aRt Isn'T ArT!
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Crash Course: Here's a thought provoking and nuanced take on intellectual property. It's many faceted and shows how this is a philosophical question as much as a legal one.
Comments: AI aRt Isn'T ArT!
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Prince-kp1zq
I like to think of AI art as something like the monster from Frankenstein; different parts of different artworks from different artists put together to make something new
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I like to think of AI art as something like the monster from Frankenstein; different parts of different artworks from different artists put together to make something new
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ConQuixote
idea creates the machine that creates the art- Idea (prompt) is mine and author of art (ai image) is debated. But, what about the MACHINE Who CONTROLS the MACHINE
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idea creates the machine that creates the art- Idea (prompt) is mine and author of art (ai image) is debated. But, what about the MACHINE Who CONTROLS the MACHINE
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insanetrickster
If AI art is not original, no human art is. All artists, with the exception of the first cave painters, have stood on the shoulders of their predecessors.
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If AI art is not original, no human art is. All artists, with the exception of the first cave painters, have stood on the shoulders of their predecessors.
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grennbalze
Just like any other art, it is not original because its impossible to not be influenced by others and their art and the world around us
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Just like any other art, it is not original because its impossible to not be influenced by others and their art and the world around us
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bondedstars
How can you sue AI creators when it's impossible to pinpoint exactly who's art was used in creating the new AI generated art.
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How can you sue AI creators when it's impossible to pinpoint exactly who's art was used in creating the new AI generated art.
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