The Best And Worst Shoulder Exercises
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Date: 2024-09-11
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jonassackarndt1174
I really like the cable lateral raises. What i notice when i try to teach it to others is that i often find that their hand moving all over the place. So i changed from having the cable in front of the body to behind the body. It is nice for having a more controlled feeling, but it cuts away a little of the stretched movement as the arm collides with the body in the lower position. Some feel less comfortable in this position, but when i tell them to control their movement or we switch back to my variant behind the back it works wonders because all of a sudden they are a lot more stable with the cable in front of them.
Also try out taking a close rowing grip and enter it sideways with your hand, so that you have one grip in your hand and the other grip resting on your wrist/forearm. This way you reduce the grip strength needed without purchasing handcuffs.
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I really like the cable lateral raises. What i notice when i try to teach it to others is that i often find that their hand moving all over the place. So i changed from having the cable in front of the body to behind the body. It is nice for having a more controlled feeling, but it cuts away a little of the stretched movement as the arm collides with the body in the lower position. Some feel less comfortable in this position, but when i tell them to control their movement or we switch back to my variant behind the back it works wonders because all of a sudden they are a lot more stable with the cable in front of them.
Also try out taking a close rowing grip and enter it sideways with your hand, so that you have one grip in your hand and the other grip resting on your wrist/forearm. This way you reduce the grip strength needed without purchasing handcuffs.
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digitaldale
S - Cable lat raise (No 1 Exercise for Side delts (Lateral)
- Cable 'Y' Raise
- Behind the back cuffed cable lat raise
- Reverse Pec Deck
- Reverse cable crossover (No 1 Exercise for rear delts (Posterior)
A - Machine Shoulder Press (No1 Exercise for front delts (Anterior)
- Atlantis standing machine Lat Raise
A - Lean-in DB Lat Raises
- Rope face pulls
- Seated DB Overhead Press
- 'Arnold Style' Side lying DB raises
B - Standing BB overhead press
B - Standing DB lat raise
- Bent over reverse DB Flye
- Seated machine lat raise
- Lean-away DB Lat Raise
- Super ROM DB lat raise
- Seated BB overhead press
- Upright rows
C - Banded Lat raise
D - Front raises (of any kind)
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S - Cable lat raise (No 1 Exercise for Side delts (Lateral)
- Cable 'Y' Raise
- Behind the back cuffed cable lat raise
- Reverse Pec Deck
- Reverse cable crossover (No 1 Exercise for rear delts (Posterior)
A - Machine Shoulder Press (No1 Exercise for front delts (Anterior)
- Atlantis standing machine Lat Raise
A - Lean-in DB Lat Raises
- Rope face pulls
- Seated DB Overhead Press
- 'Arnold Style' Side lying DB raises
B - Standing BB overhead press
B - Standing DB lat raise
- Bent over reverse DB Flye
- Seated machine lat raise
- Lean-away DB Lat Raise
- Super ROM DB lat raise
- Seated BB overhead press
- Upright rows
C - Banded Lat raise
D - Front raises (of any kind)
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larus2858
Some of these choices seem weird. Like, reverse cable crossovers are fine for the rear (spinal) deltoid head, but the stretch that Jeff refers to is all rhomboids and some trapezius. The deltoid heads can't stretch much due to their attachments. Most of that range of motion is wasted on the deltoids. If the goal is to build a more well-rounded back, that's fine, but deltoid-wise, they won't be the focus. Similarly, super ROM lateral raises are going to mostly hit trapezius and serratus anterior (also a problem for all overhead presses. Again, fine if the goal is capturing all the shoulder muscles, but misleading to say it has much to do with the deltoids.
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Some of these choices seem weird. Like, reverse cable crossovers are fine for the rear (spinal) deltoid head, but the stretch that Jeff refers to is all rhomboids and some trapezius. The deltoid heads can't stretch much due to their attachments. Most of that range of motion is wasted on the deltoids. If the goal is to build a more well-rounded back, that's fine, but deltoid-wise, they won't be the focus. Similarly, super ROM lateral raises are going to mostly hit trapezius and serratus anterior (also a problem for all overhead presses. Again, fine if the goal is capturing all the shoulder muscles, but misleading to say it has much to do with the deltoids.
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alanfarquharhill
Front raise gets hate but actually almost all the arguments against it can be applied to all vertical presses. I actually think front raises are arguably a more functional movement.
Ultimately it's the only exercise where the anterior delts are the guaranteed limiting factor.
I'm not saying ppl need to spam them but it's a decent tool in the toolbox, especially if a lot of your chest work is less press-focussed or if you haven't had a strong powerbuilding phase in your lifting career.
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Front raise gets hate but actually almost all the arguments against it can be applied to all vertical presses. I actually think front raises are arguably a more functional movement.
Ultimately it's the only exercise where the anterior delts are the guaranteed limiting factor.
I'm not saying ppl need to spam them but it's a decent tool in the toolbox, especially if a lot of your chest work is less press-focussed or if you haven't had a strong powerbuilding phase in your lifting career.
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Shazok55
I don't do front raises but i don't understand the hate of it, a lot of people say that you don't need more for front delts after bench pressing yet people do ohp so why does this argument is only targeted to front raises, also pronated front raises are actually good for side delts and front delts at the same time ( good leverage due to internal rotation, I feel like nobody knows it even science nerds
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I don't do front raises but i don't understand the hate of it, a lot of people say that you don't need more for front delts after bench pressing yet people do ohp so why does this argument is only targeted to front raises, also pronated front raises are actually good for side delts and front delts at the same time ( good leverage due to internal rotation, I feel like nobody knows it even science nerds
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bojnicko
in my personal experience when you’re doing banded pull up parts as I called them. I think you should try to go for the heaviest you possibly could pull apart and then post it rapidly in the athletic motion to stimulate fast muscle fibers. for me personally when I do them my shoulders get pumped less than three minutes because I will do it as much as I can for those three minutes as fast as I can
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in my personal experience when you’re doing banded pull up parts as I called them. I think you should try to go for the heaviest you possibly could pull apart and then post it rapidly in the athletic motion to stimulate fast muscle fibers. for me personally when I do them my shoulders get pumped less than three minutes because I will do it as much as I can for those three minutes as fast as I can
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luisgoodrich4793
Hey Jeff, I’m sure you probably won’t see this but I’ve been wondering
Recently I was doing lat pulldowns and felt more of a forearm pump instead of my lats. Is that due to bad form, or is it normal.
Also I know lots of exercises help with forearm strength because of needing to grab the DB or BB, but is it a good idea to train forearms If so what exercises do you recommend
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Hey Jeff, I’m sure you probably won’t see this but I’ve been wondering
Recently I was doing lat pulldowns and felt more of a forearm pump instead of my lats. Is that due to bad form, or is it normal.
Also I know lots of exercises help with forearm strength because of needing to grab the DB or BB, but is it a good idea to train forearms If so what exercises do you recommend
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liftordietrying
To fix some of the front delt dominance of the seated OHP I do lateral raises first and then do OHP after with lower weight and more repetitions to make the lateral heads the first part of the shoulder to give out during the movement and I have never felt more soreness in my lateral delts than by doing this. Idk how scientific it is, but it sure seems to work well for me.
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To fix some of the front delt dominance of the seated OHP I do lateral raises first and then do OHP after with lower weight and more repetitions to make the lateral heads the first part of the shoulder to give out during the movement and I have never felt more soreness in my lateral delts than by doing this. Idk how scientific it is, but it sure seems to work well for me.
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jonbarnard3780
Sounds weird but Ive been doing the Seated Machine Lateral raise facing the opposite direction. Instead I keep my arms with a slight bend and the pad rests on my elbows. I feel this is a better mind muscle connection than the regular seated machine raise.
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Sounds weird but Ive been doing the Seated Machine Lateral raise facing the opposite direction. Instead I keep my arms with a slight bend and the pad rests on my elbows. I feel this is a better mind muscle connection than the regular seated machine raise.
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RMDole19
I’m a big bear mode kind of guy (not in a gay sense, well, usually at least. I find I enjoy my life much more hanging out in that 15-20% body fat range than if I try, and typically fail, to maintain anything lower than 15% lol. Looking great Jeff!
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I’m a big bear mode kind of guy (not in a gay sense, well, usually at least. I find I enjoy my life much more hanging out in that 15-20% body fat range than if I try, and typically fail, to maintain anything lower than 15% lol. Looking great Jeff!
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Penzig
Great vid as always!
I do have to say I am bit surprised at the amount of exercises going into B tier, even when having little to no tension in the stretched position. It's like your almost too nice (towards the exercises x)
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Great vid as always!
I do have to say I am bit surprised at the amount of exercises going into B tier, even when having little to no tension in the stretched position. It's like your almost too nice (towards the exercises x)
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ItsVad
As much as front raises aren't rated well, they're good if you have weak/injured shoulders. Maybe not the ideal exercise, but after separating one shoulder and tearing the other, I started doing them to build up strength in them
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As much as front raises aren't rated well, they're good if you have weak/injured shoulders. Maybe not the ideal exercise, but after separating one shoulder and tearing the other, I started doing them to build up strength in them
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RadianceCOD
I would say: supinated barbell front raises is s tier for front delts. Slow and controlled sets all the way to eye level are really hell for the muscle. I have under developed front delts so this worked like magic for me
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I would say: supinated barbell front raises is s tier for front delts. Slow and controlled sets all the way to eye level are really hell for the muscle. I have under developed front delts so this worked like magic for me
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Ro7770
You forgot to include the best excercise by a mile for side delts which is the lying cable lateral raise with cuffs. Nothing beats the stretch and the activation from this exercise. Great video nonetheless!
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You forgot to include the best excercise by a mile for side delts which is the lying cable lateral raise with cuffs. Nothing beats the stretch and the activation from this exercise. Great video nonetheless!
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Matt-tp1si
Is progressive overloading still necessary if you push yourself to failure every time I don’t remember exactly what weights I used last time but every time I push till failure
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Is progressive overloading still necessary if you push yourself to failure every time I don’t remember exactly what weights I used last time but every time I push till failure
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Kraxter1
I am 14 and currently have a buzz cut and seeing jeff with a buzzcut has motivated me to workout even more, will try my best to push my natural limits and get like you one day.
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I am 14 and currently have a buzz cut and seeing jeff with a buzzcut has motivated me to workout even more, will try my best to push my natural limits and get like you one day.
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dragonpundit. 6443
Anything that limits the amount of weight and prevents a strong lockout is weak. Barbell push presses allow the max weight and lockout. Its simple natural, effective.
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Anything that limits the amount of weight and prevents a strong lockout is weak. Barbell push presses allow the max weight and lockout. Its simple natural, effective.
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Matt_Nor
Where would you place Pike push up | elevated pike push up and handstand push ups
I'm doing hybrid by training the upperbody with some weights but mostly bodyweight.
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Where would you place Pike push up | elevated pike push up and handstand push ups
I'm doing hybrid by training the upperbody with some weights but mostly bodyweight.
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jeffnippard
Lean-in Dumbbell Lateral Raise
Does using a wide stance and leaning to one side (same torso angle) work as well or is bracing on a wall etc. necessary
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Lean-in Dumbbell Lateral Raise
Does using a wide stance and leaning to one side (same torso angle) work as well or is bracing on a wall etc. necessary
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tmarton133
I wholeheartedly agree. Doing shoulder exercises with cables are the safest, most effective, most controlled, most easily adjustable method you can use.
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I wholeheartedly agree. Doing shoulder exercises with cables are the safest, most effective, most controlled, most easily adjustable method you can use.
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