10 Years Old: AMD Phenom II 1090T CPU in 2020 - Benchmarks vs. Ryzen & Intel
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Date: 2020-08-06
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AlphaJon
18:28 >> Really not bad efficiency numbers for a 6c CPU a decade old.
And very good chart. Clearly show how efficient Ryzen really is at lower clocks (look at the R7 2700 stock), and how INefficient it gets, when overclocked (look at it 4.1 Ghz). That is 700 Mhz extra all core at a cost of 2.3x the power consumption (10% performance Gain) all core full 16t load. Mind you the 2700 boost to 3.4 all core full 16t load at stock.
Zen 2 has improved that. Can now do 4 GHz all core load at resonable low power (look at the 3700X), though Intel is Still more power efficient at 4+ GHz.
But once you OC Zen 2 to the max, efficiency falls of the cliff. BTW. Zen 2 has Amazing efficiency at baseclock, especially with undervolting.
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18:28 >> Really not bad efficiency numbers for a 6c CPU a decade old.
And very good chart. Clearly show how efficient Ryzen really is at lower clocks (look at the R7 2700 stock), and how INefficient it gets, when overclocked (look at it 4.1 Ghz). That is 700 Mhz extra all core at a cost of 2.3x the power consumption (10% performance Gain) all core full 16t load. Mind you the 2700 boost to 3.4 all core full 16t load at stock.
Zen 2 has improved that. Can now do 4 GHz all core load at resonable low power (look at the 3700X), though Intel is Still more power efficient at 4+ GHz.
But once you OC Zen 2 to the max, efficiency falls of the cliff. BTW. Zen 2 has Amazing efficiency at baseclock, especially with undervolting.
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Dave
Looking back over the long term, the AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+ series gave me a great upgrade path, one that was relatively 'future proofed' for more than ten years: I was able to upgrade either the MB or CPU without having to upgrade the entire system at once - a 'ship of Theseus' process. My AM3+ system is really at the end of life now. I'll look at replacing it with Ryzen system soon. There's a small number of B350/X370/X470 boards which still come with a PCI (not PCIe) slot which I'm thinking about - I'd like that because I muck around with legacy cards occasionally - and I should be able to run the (almost) newest Ryzens on them.
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Looking back over the long term, the AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+ series gave me a great upgrade path, one that was relatively 'future proofed' for more than ten years: I was able to upgrade either the MB or CPU without having to upgrade the entire system at once - a 'ship of Theseus' process. My AM3+ system is really at the end of life now. I'll look at replacing it with Ryzen system soon. There's a small number of B350/X370/X470 boards which still come with a PCI (not PCIe) slot which I'm thinking about - I'd like that because I muck around with legacy cards occasionally - and I should be able to run the (almost) newest Ryzens on them.
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FutureChaosTV
My new Ryzen 3600 is 3-5 times faster than my old and trusty Phenom II at 65-95W.
What I miss a little bit are the plentyful P-states that the Phenom could utilize.
I could fine tune those on Linux with a seperate undervolt for each state and it worked great.
It didn't want to go as low on Windows.
The Phenom II had a good time when it started. Then it lost out to all those clock hungry tasks and then it had a period of 3-4 years when it came back a little as browser and other software got more multithreaded.
Today I think it is totally out of date as it can't even fully load my used RX480.
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My new Ryzen 3600 is 3-5 times faster than my old and trusty Phenom II at 65-95W.
What I miss a little bit are the plentyful P-states that the Phenom could utilize.
I could fine tune those on Linux with a seperate undervolt for each state and it worked great.
It didn't want to go as low on Windows.
The Phenom II had a good time when it started. Then it lost out to all those clock hungry tasks and then it had a period of 3-4 years when it came back a little as browser and other software got more multithreaded.
Today I think it is totally out of date as it can't even fully load my used RX480.
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dracael006
I still have my old 1090T Black Ed. Although i have upgraded to an up-to-date Ryzen system i am loathe to simply get rid of it. The CPU was an awesome workhorse and proved itself for many years of gaming and intensive usage (system litterally was never powered down and rarely idle), perhaps it's life can still be extended within a NAS or streaming server i could build out of all the 'useless' assorted parts i've been hoarding (yes i am one of those people!).
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I still have my old 1090T Black Ed. Although i have upgraded to an up-to-date Ryzen system i am loathe to simply get rid of it. The CPU was an awesome workhorse and proved itself for many years of gaming and intensive usage (system litterally was never powered down and rarely idle), perhaps it's life can still be extended within a NAS or streaming server i could build out of all the 'useless' assorted parts i've been hoarding (yes i am one of those people!).
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Nile9063
I had an 1100T in 2017 for my second rig which I built to play older not Windows 10 compatible games and also games that I didn't want my main rig to get cluttered with... I should have kept that plattform... At the end of its life in 2018 that pc had a GTX670 in it and 8 GB of RAM, as well as a USB 3 card with front USB 3 support... I also played the Battlefield 1 Beta on that system as my main rig was broken at the time and it ran surprisingly well...
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I had an 1100T in 2017 for my second rig which I built to play older not Windows 10 compatible games and also games that I didn't want my main rig to get cluttered with... I should have kept that plattform... At the end of its life in 2018 that pc had a GTX670 in it and 8 GB of RAM, as well as a USB 3 card with front USB 3 support... I also played the Battlefield 1 Beta on that system as my main rig was broken at the time and it ran surprisingly well...
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Robert
As someone who oned one of these chips back in the day (and has a modern Ryzen today), thanks for the video and the nostalgia hit!
Interesting to see this venerable chip compared to the modern counterparts. It may have been overshadowed by Intel's Sandy Bridge line, which we already know held up better, but thanks for giving us the numbers for the 1090T on the modern tests that could complete on it. Great to have actual numbers for this one.
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As someone who oned one of these chips back in the day (and has a modern Ryzen today), thanks for the video and the nostalgia hit!
Interesting to see this venerable chip compared to the modern counterparts. It may have been overshadowed by Intel's Sandy Bridge line, which we already know held up better, but thanks for giving us the numbers for the 1090T on the modern tests that could complete on it. Great to have actual numbers for this one.
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bardacuda82
I was rockin a 1090T for about 6 years. The rig is still sitting in the corner, alone and without a GPU. That rig started out as an Athlon II X4 640, and I put the 1090T in in 2011-ish. At that point it was already under 200 CAD so probably sub 150 freedom dollars. The first time I ran it in my MSI NF980-G65 board it popped that board's Nikos mosfets. This is how I learned that MSI makes cheap garbage despite their 'Military Grade' branding.
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I was rockin a 1090T for about 6 years. The rig is still sitting in the corner, alone and without a GPU. That rig started out as an Athlon II X4 640, and I put the 1090T in in 2011-ish. At that point it was already under 200 CAD so probably sub 150 freedom dollars. The first time I ran it in my MSI NF980-G65 board it popped that board's Nikos mosfets. This is how I learned that MSI makes cheap garbage despite their 'Military Grade' branding.
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Leon
I've just serviced a PC that had a Phenom II x3 so the guy could give it to his son. Shifting Windows 10 to an SSD helped, but I did wonder what they were expecting from the machine. I'm hoping that the kid just wants to do his homework on it and enjoys retro gaming.
We are now getting to the situation where the activated copy of Windows 10 is becoming worth more than the hardware it's running on.
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I've just serviced a PC that had a Phenom II x3 so the guy could give it to his son. Shifting Windows 10 to an SSD helped, but I did wonder what they were expecting from the machine. I'm hoping that the kid just wants to do his homework on it and enjoys retro gaming.
We are now getting to the situation where the activated copy of Windows 10 is becoming worth more than the hardware it's running on.
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LUNATIC75
I've always had a soft spot for the Phenom X6's. I built a 1055T mitx system back in the day, which I thought was pretty swish and started my love for small form factor PC's.
Today, my cobbled together Unraid Plex/storage server has an 1100T running in it and it does a 'pretty good' job.
They still command good prices on UK ebay too.
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I've always had a soft spot for the Phenom X6's. I built a 1055T mitx system back in the day, which I thought was pretty swish and started my love for small form factor PC's.
Today, my cobbled together Unraid Plex/storage server has an 1100T running in it and it does a 'pretty good' job.
They still command good prices on UK ebay too.
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Hankey
And here I'm sitting, watching this on a AMD Phenom II x6 1055T,
able to do photoshop projects, Games I play just fine GTAV (average settings), Ark survival evolved (average settings), Satisfactory(high settings)
My graphics card is nvidia Geforce-GTX 960 4gb so nothing special there.
Guess an upgrade would not hurt I suppose.
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And here I'm sitting, watching this on a AMD Phenom II x6 1055T,
able to do photoshop projects, Games I play just fine GTAV (average settings), Ark survival evolved (average settings), Satisfactory(high settings)
My graphics card is nvidia Geforce-GTX 960 4gb so nothing special there.
Guess an upgrade would not hurt I suppose.
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