Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme Threadripper 3 Motherboard Analysis
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Comments and reviews: 10
Ewen
It's too bad that the analysis looks like it's unorganized (unlike a lot of Steve's videos where he will give you an overview of what he is going to talk about instead of jumping, quite literally, all over the place -- and it isn't because of the motherboard layout. I think that you should have an outline of what areas or systems you're going to be talking about -- either by component or by its physical location on the board and then go through them one by one, so that the analysis actually looks more organized. But 7 minutes 46 seconds in of jumping around - I got bored with the analysis not being organized, and an unorganized analysis means that an analysis that might only take 15 minutes tops is stretched out to half an hour instead.
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It's too bad that the analysis looks like it's unorganized (unlike a lot of Steve's videos where he will give you an overview of what he is going to talk about instead of jumping, quite literally, all over the place -- and it isn't because of the motherboard layout. I think that you should have an outline of what areas or systems you're going to be talking about -- either by component or by its physical location on the board and then go through them one by one, so that the analysis actually looks more organized. But 7 minutes 46 seconds in of jumping around - I got bored with the analysis not being organized, and an unorganized analysis means that an analysis that might only take 15 minutes tops is stretched out to half an hour instead.
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Greg
Thanks for this really cool look at this motherboard. I have an old machine that uses a SuperMicro H8QME2 motherboard with 4 sockets for 6 core Opteron CPUs, which I thought was a beast in it day, but this ThreadRipper motherboard is a BEAUTIFUL BEAST. I love that they've included dual 10Gbit LAN ports. For video content creators, a PC built on this board will make the new Mac Pros look really puny and overpriced. As for needing more than one graphics card with this motherboard, folks with workloads to use 32 CPU cores, they're not playing games and are more likely to also be using OpenCL OpenMP, or CUDA applications for GPU processing. One of my 3 year old PCs for example has 3 AMD RX470 cards for 14 TFLOPS on OpenCL/MP workloads.
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Thanks for this really cool look at this motherboard. I have an old machine that uses a SuperMicro H8QME2 motherboard with 4 sockets for 6 core Opteron CPUs, which I thought was a beast in it day, but this ThreadRipper motherboard is a BEAUTIFUL BEAST. I love that they've included dual 10Gbit LAN ports. For video content creators, a PC built on this board will make the new Mac Pros look really puny and overpriced. As for needing more than one graphics card with this motherboard, folks with workloads to use 32 CPU cores, they're not playing games and are more likely to also be using OpenCL OpenMP, or CUDA applications for GPU processing. One of my 3 year old PCs for example has 3 AMD RX470 cards for 14 TFLOPS on OpenCL/MP workloads.
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GT
As always a great review. Question / Request would you consider reviewing the power delivery on an apple laptop motherboard or two with Lewis Rossman. The #1 issue he seems to address is issues with power rails due to failures of components (sometimes due to liquid. I think his audience would like to understand exactly how avoidable some of these issues are, especially since a lack of current sensing and or thermal monitoring often contributes to the worst damage done to the motherboards. I would love to hear about the cost difference between components apple is using and components that would be less likely to burn up and take half of the rest of the board with them.
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As always a great review. Question / Request would you consider reviewing the power delivery on an apple laptop motherboard or two with Lewis Rossman. The #1 issue he seems to address is issues with power rails due to failures of components (sometimes due to liquid. I think his audience would like to understand exactly how avoidable some of these issues are, especially since a lack of current sensing and or thermal monitoring often contributes to the worst damage done to the motherboards. I would love to hear about the cost difference between components apple is using and components that would be less likely to burn up and take half of the rest of the board with them.
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Hoang
Quad GPU set up might not be popular nowadays! However, there's still a small groups that use workstation have quad gpu or more GPU setup, like 3D rendering, normally u can use CPU for rendering but GPU rendering is faster, look more good than CPU rendering, ex: OCTANE Render, Redshift Render. etc. I have one threadripper running 24 hours/ day with 4 GTX GPU in it! And absolutely love it! SO that when AMD announce the platform that support 4 GPU in one workstation still continue in production===> im so glad! just want to let you guy know that there still small groups of consumers need quad or more GPU platform.
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Quad GPU set up might not be popular nowadays! However, there's still a small groups that use workstation have quad gpu or more GPU setup, like 3D rendering, normally u can use CPU for rendering but GPU rendering is faster, look more good than CPU rendering, ex: OCTANE Render, Redshift Render. etc. I have one threadripper running 24 hours/ day with 4 GTX GPU in it! And absolutely love it! SO that when AMD announce the platform that support 4 GPU in one workstation still continue in production===> im so glad! just want to let you guy know that there still small groups of consumers need quad or more GPU platform.
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Steamrick
You goe on about water cooling capacity. Has you never even heard of external radiators like the Mo-Ra 3 420? That thing has been sitting on Steve's desk for quite a long while at this point, and it can easily handle 1000W of cooling. Temperature could be more of an issue, but even at 1000W that's only about 120W per chiplet (I'm giving the IO Die 40W though it probably requires more when the Cache is really getting a workout) which is entirely doable, the energy concentration isn't too terrible. The VRMs might also need watercooling at that point, but that's not a problem.
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You goe on about water cooling capacity. Has you never even heard of external radiators like the Mo-Ra 3 420? That thing has been sitting on Steve's desk for quite a long while at this point, and it can easily handle 1000W of cooling. Temperature could be more of an issue, but even at 1000W that's only about 120W per chiplet (I'm giving the IO Die 40W though it probably requires more when the Cache is really getting a workout) which is entirely doable, the energy concentration isn't too terrible. The VRMs might also need watercooling at that point, but that's not a problem.
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Guest
Finally a TRx40 mobo with proper support for quad PCIe gpus spacing for rendering its literally what I do for work. Most TRx board dont seem to have proper spacing and if am gonna expend all this money on a TR like the older gen, (which I have) I would like its proper spacing support so I can actually use them, so annoying that so many new TRx boards dont have proper spacing. I get not many people do what I do, but TRx its suppose to be a HEDT platform for users with my scenero case, no one buys this system for 1 or 2 PCIe devices.
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Finally a TRx40 mobo with proper support for quad PCIe gpus spacing for rendering its literally what I do for work. Most TRx board dont seem to have proper spacing and if am gonna expend all this money on a TR like the older gen, (which I have) I would like its proper spacing support so I can actually use them, so annoying that so many new TRx boards dont have proper spacing. I get not many people do what I do, but TRx its suppose to be a HEDT platform for users with my scenero case, no one buys this system for 1 or 2 PCIe devices.
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MrDodecahedron99
They still place the first ram slots too close to the CPU With the previous generations of TR, this causes issues if you wish to populate all the ram slots because air coolers block the first slots unless you can find rare low profile ram Your pretty much limited to water coolers which is what I had to use when I went with 128GB of ram, this board looks like it will have exactly the same issue Don't these companies ever take feedback into account? This issue has been reported time and time again
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They still place the first ram slots too close to the CPU With the previous generations of TR, this causes issues if you wish to populate all the ram slots because air coolers block the first slots unless you can find rare low profile ram Your pretty much limited to water coolers which is what I had to use when I went with 128GB of ram, this board looks like it will have exactly the same issue Don't these companies ever take feedback into account? This issue has been reported time and time again
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richie1326
Excellent video! This is the very first chance I've had to see a TRX40 board up close. And I like it. although I wouldn't buy the extreme version of anything cos I think you get more 'bang for your buck' by spending less. I just love the idea of a 24 or 32 core Threadripper as a rendering platform for Blender, although I do have one query; assuming I'm running at stock settings, would I be able to cool it sufficiently with a really good air cooler, like a Noctua NH-15 type of cooler? Thanks BZ
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Excellent video! This is the very first chance I've had to see a TRX40 board up close. And I like it. although I wouldn't buy the extreme version of anything cos I think you get more 'bang for your buck' by spending less. I just love the idea of a 24 or 32 core Threadripper as a rendering platform for Blender, although I do have one query; assuming I'm running at stock settings, would I be able to cool it sufficiently with a really good air cooler, like a Noctua NH-15 type of cooler? Thanks BZ
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Hoystein
Like if I wanted to toss money into my geek habits I'd do the quad GPU set up with it. Not for rendering, but to make a Linux multi seat set up for four seats so me and three other people can game on a single system at once. I know it's not practical in most people's eyes, I don't really care that much. I'd have reason to do it if I had two kids, not just my gf. Otherwise I might as well just make a set up with a 16 core AM4 CPU and two GPUs. Something much more practical.
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Like if I wanted to toss money into my geek habits I'd do the quad GPU set up with it. Not for rendering, but to make a Linux multi seat set up for four seats so me and three other people can game on a single system at once. I know it's not practical in most people's eyes, I don't really care that much. I'd have reason to do it if I had two kids, not just my gf. Otherwise I might as well just make a set up with a 16 core AM4 CPU and two GPUs. Something much more practical.
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neoqueto
Also I think dual-slot PCIe spacing is absolutely fine, gamers will have 5 SLOTS of space for dual-GPU configs, and honestly, Quadros, even the top tier ones, are true dual-slot cards, no 2. 5. If you must go air, you REALLY do want to use blower-style coolers for 4x multi GPU, even though they would still suffocate, there won't be as much hot air recirculation. So, we're kinda entering the age when high-end workstations have to be fully liquid cooled.
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Also I think dual-slot PCIe spacing is absolutely fine, gamers will have 5 SLOTS of space for dual-GPU configs, and honestly, Quadros, even the top tier ones, are true dual-slot cards, no 2. 5. If you must go air, you REALLY do want to use blower-style coolers for 4x multi GPU, even though they would still suffocate, there won't be as much hot air recirculation. So, we're kinda entering the age when high-end workstations have to be fully liquid cooled.
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