Porsche 718 Cayman T v Alpine A110S review - 2020's hottest coupes tested - Autocar
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Date: 2022-04-17
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Gerald
I have seen this video at least 3 times and James' verdict baffles me, after his being so effusive in praise for the Cayman T. I was really expecting a split-decision. That said, the engineering recipe of the Alpine does not appear original to me. Those who have read a recent revisit of the Mercedes-Benz 300 SL's report by Autocar in the 1950's will know how this machine outdid the heavier and more powerful Ferraris of the day. The Mercedes 300 SL, like the Alpine, drew upon aluminium components to achieve this engineering superiority. And, I am sure that the Alpine, like the Mercedes 300 SL, gained in sheer agility from this. So, as admirably agile as the Renault is, I think that this was a recipe borrowed from great cars of the past like the Mercedes 300 SL gull-wing. With safety being such a high priority on my list, I would prefer the safer handling Porsche over the exhilaration of sheer agility and value for money which together I think, sadly, constitute the main criterion for the verdict of this video review.
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I have seen this video at least 3 times and James' verdict baffles me, after his being so effusive in praise for the Cayman T. I was really expecting a split-decision. That said, the engineering recipe of the Alpine does not appear original to me. Those who have read a recent revisit of the Mercedes-Benz 300 SL's report by Autocar in the 1950's will know how this machine outdid the heavier and more powerful Ferraris of the day. The Mercedes 300 SL, like the Alpine, drew upon aluminium components to achieve this engineering superiority. And, I am sure that the Alpine, like the Mercedes 300 SL, gained in sheer agility from this. So, as admirably agile as the Renault is, I think that this was a recipe borrowed from great cars of the past like the Mercedes 300 SL gull-wing. With safety being such a high priority on my list, I would prefer the safer handling Porsche over the exhilaration of sheer agility and value for money which together I think, sadly, constitute the main criterion for the verdict of this video review.
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carpediem1140
I have chosen already and bought the A110S (same color and options like in the video)
Why? I have driven both and the ALPINE is a different kind of getting engaged by the car on the road. It's so amazing and I use it as daily car. In normal mode no problem at all and the automatic gear box is perfect through the city. Why a Cayman T is in that point better? No way and I have driven both versions of the Cayman S and T.
My hint for everyone who has the money for these cars. test drive the ALPINE A110S
Not only for 10 minutes. Drive it some hours also through normal traffic and of course on fancy roads.
Then decide. I did it and selected the A110S
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I have chosen already and bought the A110S (same color and options like in the video)
Why? I have driven both and the ALPINE is a different kind of getting engaged by the car on the road. It's so amazing and I use it as daily car. In normal mode no problem at all and the automatic gear box is perfect through the city. Why a Cayman T is in that point better? No way and I have driven both versions of the Cayman S and T.
My hint for everyone who has the money for these cars. test drive the ALPINE A110S
Not only for 10 minutes. Drive it some hours also through normal traffic and of course on fancy roads.
Then decide. I did it and selected the A110S
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John
Cayman has classic styling. 110 looks like a bit plainer, like a kit car. Cayman is a Porsche, 110 basically a Renault. Cayman has built in quality, 110 I suspect far less. Cayman is manual, 110 isn't, Porsche more common, 110 more exclusive. No competition in my view, the Porsche every day, but each to his own. Wonder how many people saying the 110 would still make that choice if they were actually walking into a showroom with a pocket of cash?
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Cayman has classic styling. 110 looks like a bit plainer, like a kit car. Cayman is a Porsche, 110 basically a Renault. Cayman has built in quality, 110 I suspect far less. Cayman is manual, 110 isn't, Porsche more common, 110 more exclusive. No competition in my view, the Porsche every day, but each to his own. Wonder how many people saying the 110 would still make that choice if they were actually walking into a showroom with a pocket of cash?
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Stu
Cayman GTS 4. 0 is a 70-75k car for decent spec, so in a slight category above these 55-60k cars. I don't think I could spend 60k on either of those cars as tested, something from the used market I think would be a lot more exciting for less money (even with some set aside for maintenance) a 987. 2 3. 4s or 987 R 981 S or GTS, Alternately original M2 coupe for 30k would have 1 years bmw warranty and a 3. 0L 6cyl and some back seats.
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Cayman GTS 4. 0 is a 70-75k car for decent spec, so in a slight category above these 55-60k cars. I don't think I could spend 60k on either of those cars as tested, something from the used market I think would be a lot more exciting for less money (even with some set aside for maintenance) a 987. 2 3. 4s or 987 R 981 S or GTS, Alternately original M2 coupe for 30k would have 1 years bmw warranty and a 3. 0L 6cyl and some back seats.
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MrSuchasillygoose
Pretty pointless to chose the lighter car when it only comes with a boring transmission. Both engines are boring so just pick the more potent one. Cayman should take the win quite easily. Perhaps journalists are giving the Alpine a pass just to bring competition in the sports car world. I could stomach an Alpine win for that political reason but not because it's more fun. Porsche wins on transmission alone for me.
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Pretty pointless to chose the lighter car when it only comes with a boring transmission. Both engines are boring so just pick the more potent one. Cayman should take the win quite easily. Perhaps journalists are giving the Alpine a pass just to bring competition in the sports car world. I could stomach an Alpine win for that political reason but not because it's more fun. Porsche wins on transmission alone for me.
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Stephen
I wish Renault would produce an A110 'Plus', with the engine and steering-mapping/geometry of the 'S', but produce a 'hybrid' suspension-tuning that was much closer to the standard car's damping (perhaps, identical to it, but with stiffer anti-roll bars. I'd keep the smaller wheels of the standard car - tires, I'm not sure about. That would be a truly perfect package.
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I wish Renault would produce an A110 'Plus', with the engine and steering-mapping/geometry of the 'S', but produce a 'hybrid' suspension-tuning that was much closer to the standard car's damping (perhaps, identical to it, but with stiffer anti-roll bars. I'd keep the smaller wheels of the standard car - tires, I'm not sure about. That would be a truly perfect package.
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SolvedBiz
Cayman held the crown for enough time. Now, for me? The crown should be in Alpine A110 & A110s. Design, feeling, modern-classic engineered, and engine sound were masterpiece by Alpine. Just keep good after sales services & spare part distribution and Alpine soon to be a classic in next 25-50 years. In My Humble Opinion
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Cayman held the crown for enough time. Now, for me? The crown should be in Alpine A110 & A110s. Design, feeling, modern-classic engineered, and engine sound were masterpiece by Alpine. Just keep good after sales services & spare part distribution and Alpine soon to be a classic in next 25-50 years. In My Humble Opinion
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Fr
I tried the Alpine and liked the noise of the engine. Then I went to test if it was real. Lowered the windows and went full steam in the next available tunnel and. nothing! The noise is just a loudspeaker inside! I will stick with Porsche for quite a while -
Cheers,
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I tried the Alpine and liked the noise of the engine. Then I went to test if it was real. Lowered the windows and went full steam in the next available tunnel and. nothing! The noise is just a loudspeaker inside! I will stick with Porsche for quite a while -
Cheers,
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Patrick
The video started with two lovely looking sports cars, then some cool music and i got all excited thinking about my love for sports cars, racing and the evocativeness of it all.
Then those two dorks entered the picture and my dream was shattered --
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The video started with two lovely looking sports cars, then some cool music and i got all excited thinking about my love for sports cars, racing and the evocativeness of it all.
Then those two dorks entered the picture and my dream was shattered --
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velibor
17 min of nothing. waste of time Nothing about interior? Porsche got maybe 10sec of dash but from side so they make sure you see non of it and Alpine got non at all. After this video you gotta google for interior pics or vids. Booooooring!
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17 min of nothing. waste of time Nothing about interior? Porsche got maybe 10sec of dash but from side so they make sure you see non of it and Alpine got non at all. After this video you gotta google for interior pics or vids. Booooooring!
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