Is Kia's EV9 -FINALLY- The 3-Row EV You've Been Waiting For Almost, & Here's Why.
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Date: 2024-03-30
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Zhenocnra
I'm really looking forward to the EX90 because of the air suspension and all the similarities to the Kia EV9. I'm kind of sad that I won't get the much more room offered by the Kia EV9 but I don't want to take my $70k EV SUV to a Kia stealership.
Genesis' version of the EV9 is something I am looking forward to seeing (just not the lack of Genesis standalone dealerships. Not sure if the Ioniq 9 will have what the EX90 has (air suspension, LIDAR, etc. Spy shots show the Ioniq 9 is going to be less practical in the rear so it might be more similar to the EX90.
The LIDAR is the biggest difference and the big question. I'm hoping we'll see Kia/Hyundai/Genesis bring it back on theirs. I am very interested in how Volvo will or will not use LIDAR too since it's part of the reason why the EX90 launch has been botched/delayed so much.
I just can't stand how both the EX90 and EV9 have almost no buttons. I like that the EV9 has a few dedicated buttons for HVAC but they're both in dire need of more dedicated physical buttons.
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I'm really looking forward to the EX90 because of the air suspension and all the similarities to the Kia EV9. I'm kind of sad that I won't get the much more room offered by the Kia EV9 but I don't want to take my $70k EV SUV to a Kia stealership.
Genesis' version of the EV9 is something I am looking forward to seeing (just not the lack of Genesis standalone dealerships. Not sure if the Ioniq 9 will have what the EX90 has (air suspension, LIDAR, etc. Spy shots show the Ioniq 9 is going to be less practical in the rear so it might be more similar to the EX90.
The LIDAR is the biggest difference and the big question. I'm hoping we'll see Kia/Hyundai/Genesis bring it back on theirs. I am very interested in how Volvo will or will not use LIDAR too since it's part of the reason why the EX90 launch has been botched/delayed so much.
I just can't stand how both the EX90 and EV9 have almost no buttons. I like that the EV9 has a few dedicated buttons for HVAC but they're both in dire need of more dedicated physical buttons.
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derek17005
Kia is recalling 427K Tellurides (all years) due to a rolling away risk. Kia is also recalling Tellurides built between October 2023 and December 2023 due to faulty valve springs. Only fix is total engine replacement for a 3 month old vehicle. Imagine spending $50K and even some markup and you're told you need a new engine not 4 months later!
Please do your due diligence before spending $50K on these new Kias and Hyundais. I know Alex and all the auto journalists love them, but they are proving to be quite problematic and the notion that Kia/Hyundai has changed for the better, is proving to be not true. Also, the new Santa Fe uses the same problematic DCT found in the Sorrento and the Car Confections guys had to have their entire transmission replaced with only 27 miles!
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Kia is recalling 427K Tellurides (all years) due to a rolling away risk. Kia is also recalling Tellurides built between October 2023 and December 2023 due to faulty valve springs. Only fix is total engine replacement for a 3 month old vehicle. Imagine spending $50K and even some markup and you're told you need a new engine not 4 months later!
Please do your due diligence before spending $50K on these new Kias and Hyundais. I know Alex and all the auto journalists love them, but they are proving to be quite problematic and the notion that Kia/Hyundai has changed for the better, is proving to be not true. Also, the new Santa Fe uses the same problematic DCT found in the Sorrento and the Car Confections guys had to have their entire transmission replaced with only 27 miles!
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nikidelvalle
I really wish they had made the third row three seats, this has all the makings of a perfect XL car for rideshare, but losing a seatbelt makes that much more challenging (and in particular makes you require the 2nd-row bench for it to qualify. By the way I really hope you eventually review the version of this car regular people are actually going to want, which is the RWD long range. I find the obsession people have with high torque to be inane, I like to not have to buy new tires every 5 seconds.
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I really wish they had made the third row three seats, this has all the makings of a perfect XL car for rideshare, but losing a seatbelt makes that much more challenging (and in particular makes you require the 2nd-row bench for it to qualify. By the way I really hope you eventually review the version of this car regular people are actually going to want, which is the RWD long range. I find the obsession people have with high torque to be inane, I like to not have to buy new tires every 5 seconds.
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mdribblecastle
Great video as always. I compared to EV9, R1S, and EX90 (with all info available) and EV9 won out for me. Biggest factor, interior space and car seats. I'm totally happy with the idea that it's basically an EV mini-van because that is exactly what I need. Rivian is cool but nowhere close on interior space and things that matter to me. FYI, i have the GT-Line but you can now get these way under MSRP, FYI.
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Great video as always. I compared to EV9, R1S, and EX90 (with all info available) and EV9 won out for me. Biggest factor, interior space and car seats. I'm totally happy with the idea that it's basically an EV mini-van because that is exactly what I need. Rivian is cool but nowhere close on interior space and things that matter to me. FYI, i have the GT-Line but you can now get these way under MSRP, FYI.
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SSS-mp8th
I mean I’d take it over a Model X but after testing 15 SUV’s recently I just got turned off to EV’s. Much more expensive with a variety of issues that gas engines don’t have for less money.
I have wanted a VW Microbus for 15 or more years but now with it being BEV only and with the likely cost similar or higher than this EV9 it’s just a no go.
Got an Outback Wilderness for $39k.
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I mean I’d take it over a Model X but after testing 15 SUV’s recently I just got turned off to EV’s. Much more expensive with a variety of issues that gas engines don’t have for less money.
I have wanted a VW Microbus for 15 or more years but now with it being BEV only and with the likely cost similar or higher than this EV9 it’s just a no go.
Got an Outback Wilderness for $39k.
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InvestBetter.
I just test drove the Hyundai Santa Fe, and then this Kia EV9, with all the fixins
What struck me was how many parts were shared between the two vehicles: The transmission lever, seat controls, headrests & moonroofs were the same. The Santa Fe drove more softly, because it didn't have 21 wheels on it. EV9 was swift. Sanfe Fe was 4-banging, so just ok. Looks great in green.
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I just test drove the Hyundai Santa Fe, and then this Kia EV9, with all the fixins
What struck me was how many parts were shared between the two vehicles: The transmission lever, seat controls, headrests & moonroofs were the same. The Santa Fe drove more softly, because it didn't have 21 wheels on it. EV9 was swift. Sanfe Fe was 4-banging, so just ok. Looks great in green.
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Vamano5
17: 43 i think all kia models will have an empty bottom section of the steering wheel
And all Hyundai models will have 3rd spoke right in the middle of the bottom part of the wheel.
All Genesis models will be 2 spoke steering wheel design.
So if that is the trend, i will have no choice, but to opt for kia/ Genesis instead of Hyundai.
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17: 43 i think all kia models will have an empty bottom section of the steering wheel
And all Hyundai models will have 3rd spoke right in the middle of the bottom part of the wheel.
All Genesis models will be 2 spoke steering wheel design.
So if that is the trend, i will have no choice, but to opt for kia/ Genesis instead of Hyundai.
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ruffmadman
I kind of wish Hyundai/Kia moved away from the drab gray interiors. They can do very nice looking interiors so it's super disappointing to see them go with gray on gray on more gray for their interiors. As press vehicles, you think they would use a color that looks more attractive on camera.
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I kind of wish Hyundai/Kia moved away from the drab gray interiors. They can do very nice looking interiors so it's super disappointing to see them go with gray on gray on more gray for their interiors. As press vehicles, you think they would use a color that looks more attractive on camera.
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Vamano5
I Test drove this last week I loved the physical ac toggle buttons in the middle. The Other ac controls 14: 54 needed a little leaning fwd but already could anchor my fingers on the top part of the screen and use the thumb for accurate touch input all the way across that panel.
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I Test drove this last week I loved the physical ac toggle buttons in the middle. The Other ac controls 14: 54 needed a little leaning fwd but already could anchor my fingers on the top part of the screen and use the thumb for accurate touch input all the way across that panel.
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LetMeCook86
If I was in the market for an $80K EV, there’s no way I’m getting a Kia! Model X starts at $80K! Luxury, American made, $7500 off, better technology, proven ev track record, faster, 5K free supercharger miles, longer range etc etc etc and you can add autonomous driving.
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If I was in the market for an $80K EV, there’s no way I’m getting a Kia! Model X starts at $80K! Luxury, American made, $7500 off, better technology, proven ev track record, faster, 5K free supercharger miles, longer range etc etc etc and you can add autonomous driving.
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Vamano5
18: 13 the arm rest padding in the ioniq 5 was PERFECT, DOOR PADDING AND CENTER CONSOLE Padding were SYMMETRICAL, BROAD and ergonomic for driver comfort. No other new Hyundai/ kia / Genesis seems to be focusing on that level of passing any more What's going on
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18: 13 the arm rest padding in the ioniq 5 was PERFECT, DOOR PADDING AND CENTER CONSOLE Padding were SYMMETRICAL, BROAD and ergonomic for driver comfort. No other new Hyundai/ kia / Genesis seems to be focusing on that level of passing any more What's going on
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chipper6729
Alex, the shifter is similar to Ioniq5, and re: your get in and shift to drive comment, on the Ioniq5 if you use the fob to remote start the car, it does go into ready when the fob enters the car and then all you have to do is shift to drive and go
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Alex, the shifter is similar to Ioniq5, and re: your get in and shift to drive comment, on the Ioniq5 if you use the fob to remote start the car, it does go into ready when the fob enters the car and then all you have to do is shift to drive and go
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alex_on_autos
great review as always, car seems nice, but I think the market for $80k EVs is way smaller than the industry may be hoping. Even with the average price of this model around $65k, the depreciation on EVs is pretty severe
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great review as always, car seems nice, but I think the market for $80k EVs is way smaller than the industry may be hoping. Even with the average price of this model around $65k, the depreciation on EVs is pretty severe
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amigajoe
I sure wish Evie reviews would switch from talking about 10% to 80 or 20% to 80 to the time it takes to add 100 miles of range from best charging condition. That means a lot more to people as far as comparing vehicles.
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I sure wish Evie reviews would switch from talking about 10% to 80 or 20% to 80 to the time it takes to add 100 miles of range from best charging condition. That means a lot more to people as far as comparing vehicles.
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Vamano5
16: 47 those side buttons on the front passenger side. . Q for HMG: why are these missing / OMITTED on the 2024 Hyundai Santa fe, NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY TRIM for the USA region while other global markets have this
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16: 47 those side buttons on the front passenger side. . Q for HMG: why are these missing / OMITTED on the 2024 Hyundai Santa fe, NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY TRIM for the USA region while other global markets have this
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Rioichi4
This is the one! This is the EV I want to end up with. It has everything I want, and isn't godawful expensive. I'm coming for you, EV9.
(also I never noticed the and - on the accelerator and brake omg)
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This is the one! This is the EV I want to end up with. It has everything I want, and isn't godawful expensive. I'm coming for you, EV9.
(also I never noticed the and - on the accelerator and brake omg)
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jiaweichen9296
Hello Alex. I think it’s a good time to make a comprehensive guide for people that are new to EV. Maybe thing like what to note when switching to EV, what are some helpful app, etc.
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Hello Alex. I think it’s a good time to make a comprehensive guide for people that are new to EV. Maybe thing like what to note when switching to EV, what are some helpful app, etc.
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ALMX5DP
Only miss is the swivel-around second row seats. I get that NA regulations likely dictate the way it is, but that’s a big bummer for a limo like experience for back seat passengers.
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Only miss is the swivel-around second row seats. I get that NA regulations likely dictate the way it is, but that’s a big bummer for a limo like experience for back seat passengers.
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jerryebner7582
I am not against EVS but near 80 K I never paid more than 36k for even a used car. I don't think I would trust a used EV until ID see a battery tested or used ev warranty
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I am not against EVS but near 80 K I never paid more than 36k for even a used car. I don't think I would trust a used EV until ID see a battery tested or used ev warranty
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ebels3
The fact that manufacturers are discounting cars as soon as they come out tells me they can just drop the price. Cars are going the way of housing and getting way out of control.
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The fact that manufacturers are discounting cars as soon as they come out tells me they can just drop the price. Cars are going the way of housing and getting way out of control.
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