When Lifting Heavy. is BAD! (Common Mistake)
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Date: 2022-04-22
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cheezeofages
So many people make this mistake, even in dedicated fitness forums. Maxing an exercise should mean -the max you can lift safely and with good form-. I had coach once that would not count any bad form reps and would make you do them again. If he had to correct you too many times because of overloading he'd let you do all the reps then correct you afterward (unless your form was unsafe in a more serious way) just to hammer in a punishment. I saw a guy under his tutelage that just kept on trying to overload to speed up his gains at the cost of form and one day coach made him redo his entire circuit with a lower weight. To be clear it was a circuit that the guy normally ran through 3 times anyway. He just had to put in an extra after the first. Dude finally got the message though and stopped trying to sneak in over-heavy lifts behind coach's back.
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So many people make this mistake, even in dedicated fitness forums. Maxing an exercise should mean -the max you can lift safely and with good form-. I had coach once that would not count any bad form reps and would make you do them again. If he had to correct you too many times because of overloading he'd let you do all the reps then correct you afterward (unless your form was unsafe in a more serious way) just to hammer in a punishment. I saw a guy under his tutelage that just kept on trying to overload to speed up his gains at the cost of form and one day coach made him redo his entire circuit with a lower weight. To be clear it was a circuit that the guy normally ran through 3 times anyway. He just had to put in an extra after the first. Dude finally got the message though and stopped trying to sneak in over-heavy lifts behind coach's back.
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muzimuzi
Well yea sure you gotta lift with proper form - Problem is videos like this send the wrong message, that its ok NOT to push yourself. I mean hell if you really wanna take it extremely slow that's fine, but I used to see many Bro's in my gym with the opposite approach of what you're saying -I dont need to lift more weight to grow since im not a powerlifter- and myths like that can keep people stuck in a never ending cycle of squatting 3X8 with 135, and after six months of not moving up the weight they would go - I have bad leg genetics that's why they never grow-, Instead of taking a program that actually progresses you up the weights, in a steady fashion like Starting strength. I'm not suggesting to ever lift with bad form, specially if you're a noob, but I know many people would see this video and conclude that you dont need to train hard to grow.
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Well yea sure you gotta lift with proper form - Problem is videos like this send the wrong message, that its ok NOT to push yourself. I mean hell if you really wanna take it extremely slow that's fine, but I used to see many Bro's in my gym with the opposite approach of what you're saying -I dont need to lift more weight to grow since im not a powerlifter- and myths like that can keep people stuck in a never ending cycle of squatting 3X8 with 135, and after six months of not moving up the weight they would go - I have bad leg genetics that's why they never grow-, Instead of taking a program that actually progresses you up the weights, in a steady fashion like Starting strength. I'm not suggesting to ever lift with bad form, specially if you're a noob, but I know many people would see this video and conclude that you dont need to train hard to grow.
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Racer
This is perfect because I wrecked my left shoulder getting to 185lbs 5x3, trying to shoot for my goal of 225lbs x1. I belive its just tendonitis as Im pretty much at full range now and back above 1 plate on bench x1. I think lack of ohp'ing and as he explains adding weight and even though I was able to do the reps and get that PR that inside my body was not healed and/or ready to progress another 5lbs or more. Thats when my shoulder/front delt started screaming. I actually could tell that my joints and tendons, even with squats near the knee, were doing the majority of the work. But I kept pushing because I was near int' numbers.
Since taking a break Ive had the chance to see how consumed I was with all this. No more. Im coming back to it healed and smarter this time. I played with fire and its amazing it took this long to get burned.
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This is perfect because I wrecked my left shoulder getting to 185lbs 5x3, trying to shoot for my goal of 225lbs x1. I belive its just tendonitis as Im pretty much at full range now and back above 1 plate on bench x1. I think lack of ohp'ing and as he explains adding weight and even though I was able to do the reps and get that PR that inside my body was not healed and/or ready to progress another 5lbs or more. Thats when my shoulder/front delt started screaming. I actually could tell that my joints and tendons, even with squats near the knee, were doing the majority of the work. But I kept pushing because I was near int' numbers.
Since taking a break Ive had the chance to see how consumed I was with all this. No more. Im coming back to it healed and smarter this time. I played with fire and its amazing it took this long to get burned.
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Colton
I'm 6' 2- and 112 lbs, I've been having a really hard time putting on muscle, really just weight in general. I first started a 3000 calorie diet for 4 months and gained nothing even ended up losing 4 lbs. My problem now is that I'm on a 5000 calorie diet and all I'm doing is maintaining my weight. I've been at a steady 110-112 lbs for nearly 6 months now. I've been getting 150+ grams of protein a day from chicken and my protein shake. I could really use some advice for gaining weight/muscle at this point. I've been told for the past 2 years if I get sick there's a high chance I could end up dying. I'm only 18 years old, I ain't fixing to die from being sick! If anyone has any advice I could really really use some, cause I physically cannot eat more in one day as I'm already eating every 2 hours for 16 hours a day
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I'm 6' 2- and 112 lbs, I've been having a really hard time putting on muscle, really just weight in general. I first started a 3000 calorie diet for 4 months and gained nothing even ended up losing 4 lbs. My problem now is that I'm on a 5000 calorie diet and all I'm doing is maintaining my weight. I've been at a steady 110-112 lbs for nearly 6 months now. I've been getting 150+ grams of protein a day from chicken and my protein shake. I could really use some advice for gaining weight/muscle at this point. I've been told for the past 2 years if I get sick there's a high chance I could end up dying. I'm only 18 years old, I ain't fixing to die from being sick! If anyone has any advice I could really really use some, cause I physically cannot eat more in one day as I'm already eating every 2 hours for 16 hours a day
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pbetftdi
I work out at Pizza Planet so this is no surprise, I see guys with no results pile weights on and do 1/4 reps. One guy has 315+ on the bench, he bends his elbows just a little, grunts and straightens his elbows. And then the out of shape guys who pile weights on the leg press. Before they do the first rep, I already know there won-t be one actual rep. I try not to look but it-s hard not to watch a train wreck. Also the personal trainer is a fat dude with imaginary lat syndrome. Nonetheless, a good portion of the people in there know what their doing - except the assholes who don-t rerack their weights.
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I work out at Pizza Planet so this is no surprise, I see guys with no results pile weights on and do 1/4 reps. One guy has 315+ on the bench, he bends his elbows just a little, grunts and straightens his elbows. And then the out of shape guys who pile weights on the leg press. Before they do the first rep, I already know there won-t be one actual rep. I try not to look but it-s hard not to watch a train wreck. Also the personal trainer is a fat dude with imaginary lat syndrome. Nonetheless, a good portion of the people in there know what their doing - except the assholes who don-t rerack their weights.
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arsenalgooner4ever
Jeff I train my legs doing lunges with a bar and do things like leg press but cannot squat due to problem of left leg was born a bit inwards any way they operated basically as a new born and then developed achilles problems on both legs which were then operated on my problem is my calves and due to your sport science knowledge I was wondering if they will still develop muscle in the same way
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Jeff I train my legs doing lunges with a bar and do things like leg press but cannot squat due to problem of left leg was born a bit inwards any way they operated basically as a new born and then developed achilles problems on both legs which were then operated on my problem is my calves and due to your sport science knowledge I was wondering if they will still develop muscle in the same way
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Marcos
Awesome video Jeff! I train at home and I had to reduce the load in my bench press and it was really painful to my ego but it was something that I realized I had to do to improve my form (I couldn't keep my shoulder blades together. Now watching this video makes me feel a lot better knowing that I was on the right path. And just like you said, it is a burst to the ego haha
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Awesome video Jeff! I train at home and I had to reduce the load in my bench press and it was really painful to my ego but it was something that I realized I had to do to improve my form (I couldn't keep my shoulder blades together. Now watching this video makes me feel a lot better knowing that I was on the right path. And just like you said, it is a burst to the ego haha
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SeanScytheXtreme
Just went to orthopedic surgeon today due to knee issue. Believes I have a torn meniscus, advised nothing pass 90 degrees with legs. Really sucks because I've been held back so much with bad genetics in my legs and now this. I can deadlift 365lbs, squat 315lbs and Press 745lbs. But I suffer with a swollen knee and horrible knee lock afterwards. --
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Just went to orthopedic surgeon today due to knee issue. Believes I have a torn meniscus, advised nothing pass 90 degrees with legs. Really sucks because I've been held back so much with bad genetics in my legs and now this. I can deadlift 365lbs, squat 315lbs and Press 745lbs. But I suffer with a swollen knee and horrible knee lock afterwards. --
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Sean
So I-m wondering today I did 140 pounds incorrectly for multiple sets which is 70 percent of my supposed 3 rep max but this time I think I did it wrong my knees and inner thighs huts and near my right foot near my ankle so I don-t know if there-s any permenant damage etc please someone respond and help I need better form and make sure to heal from this
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So I-m wondering today I did 140 pounds incorrectly for multiple sets which is 70 percent of my supposed 3 rep max but this time I think I did it wrong my knees and inner thighs huts and near my right foot near my ankle so I don-t know if there-s any permenant damage etc please someone respond and help I need better form and make sure to heal from this
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Martin
Dont make it sound like its bad to lift heavy weight. Because its not. Bad form is bad, and especially with much weight on the bar.
And btw, i cant help wonder why you have such a quad dominant squat, when you have bad knees. Why not do low bar squats instead, and youll significantly reduce the moment arm, that goes from mid- foot, to the knees?
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Dont make it sound like its bad to lift heavy weight. Because its not. Bad form is bad, and especially with much weight on the bar.
And btw, i cant help wonder why you have such a quad dominant squat, when you have bad knees. Why not do low bar squats instead, and youll significantly reduce the moment arm, that goes from mid- foot, to the knees?
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