ATX12VO specs, RX 5600 XT BIOS fallout, RTX vs high refresh rate, Q&A - The Full Nerd ep. 123
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Date: 2022-03-15
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itech
First, The 2060-KO -Has NOT- been selling for $300. This has been happening for weeks so I'm surprised recent youtube reviews are not mentioning this. They say its on sale but demand has influenced sellers to sell it for $320, $30 more than the sapphire 5600 xt at $290. In short the 5600XT is the best deal for 1080p, $-per frame. Oh and using the raytracing buzz word again? So tired of this. We all know there's a performance hit (never mentioned by nvidia fan boys) You literally need a really really good card to fully enjoy rt without seriously losing fps and that comes at a Price ($$$. also hardly mentioned. And then the card is obsolete by the time AMD gets on board and when more games with rt are available in a year or two. I get everyone is mad at AMD, i dont get by -how much- people and man babies are hyping this up like someone stole your baby bottle to spilling hot coffee on your hush puppies to punching your mother in the face. Industries have updates all the time/bios updates etc. AMD while messy, i agree, decided to do this now rather than later which i believe is a good decision so manufacturers can ship out cards -now- with the manufacturers updated bios (also not mentioned. Here's the thing, and most people know this, just like any new release be it hardware and especially new software updates, wait out the issues, then purchase wisely by doing some research. That's common sense.
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First, The 2060-KO -Has NOT- been selling for $300. This has been happening for weeks so I'm surprised recent youtube reviews are not mentioning this. They say its on sale but demand has influenced sellers to sell it for $320, $30 more than the sapphire 5600 xt at $290. In short the 5600XT is the best deal for 1080p, $-per frame. Oh and using the raytracing buzz word again? So tired of this. We all know there's a performance hit (never mentioned by nvidia fan boys) You literally need a really really good card to fully enjoy rt without seriously losing fps and that comes at a Price ($$$. also hardly mentioned. And then the card is obsolete by the time AMD gets on board and when more games with rt are available in a year or two. I get everyone is mad at AMD, i dont get by -how much- people and man babies are hyping this up like someone stole your baby bottle to spilling hot coffee on your hush puppies to punching your mother in the face. Industries have updates all the time/bios updates etc. AMD while messy, i agree, decided to do this now rather than later which i believe is a good decision so manufacturers can ship out cards -now- with the manufacturers updated bios (also not mentioned. Here's the thing, and most people know this, just like any new release be it hardware and especially new software updates, wait out the issues, then purchase wisely by doing some research. That's common sense.
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TheDarthTux
LOL! Luv'it! Gordon has converted the neigh sayer Nerds to ray tracing! Will have to say, this excites me no end!
I play games at 4K on a 65inch TV on my entertainment centre/HTPC rig and 4K monitors on my workstation and I never understood how anyone could want to play games at anything below 4K unless they had no choice financially. 4K is just far better visually than 1440p or 1080p and this carries over to ray tracing too. Doing almost everything at 4K for 3 years now may have clouded my judgement and made me biased, but visual fidelity and photo realism is what PC gamers should always be pushing for over and above high refresh rates which only help you in twitch shooters (which are the garbage bin or reality TV shows of video games; cheap to make and often don't require much imagination or story telling. Visual fidelity is what draws you into the worlds game developers and game artists build and make you want to explore and have that WOW reaction! Refresh rate is just about cheap consumerism and just completing a game and moving to the next thing without truly appreciating all the work that when into the game.
In as far as ray tracing, ray marching, etc help with visual fidelity, I personally would take the frame rate hit any day as long as the game is still giving me mid-40fps upwards!
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LOL! Luv'it! Gordon has converted the neigh sayer Nerds to ray tracing! Will have to say, this excites me no end!
I play games at 4K on a 65inch TV on my entertainment centre/HTPC rig and 4K monitors on my workstation and I never understood how anyone could want to play games at anything below 4K unless they had no choice financially. 4K is just far better visually than 1440p or 1080p and this carries over to ray tracing too. Doing almost everything at 4K for 3 years now may have clouded my judgement and made me biased, but visual fidelity and photo realism is what PC gamers should always be pushing for over and above high refresh rates which only help you in twitch shooters (which are the garbage bin or reality TV shows of video games; cheap to make and often don't require much imagination or story telling. Visual fidelity is what draws you into the worlds game developers and game artists build and make you want to explore and have that WOW reaction! Refresh rate is just about cheap consumerism and just completing a game and moving to the next thing without truly appreciating all the work that when into the game.
In as far as ray tracing, ray marching, etc help with visual fidelity, I personally would take the frame rate hit any day as long as the game is still giving me mid-40fps upwards!
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Peter
Confession: I am disappointed that Half Life 3 will be a VR-title. It can be cool but what with most of us who don't have a VR and won't get into it for a long time into the future? I might buy the game 5 years later and the entire game will be spoiled, like was the case for GTA5. I don't see this game make a big difference for VR-adoption, even if that would double it still would be a tiny part of all the gamers. I think that this Half Life might become the Half Life for the 1% gamers, not the game that gets every PC-gamer on VR.
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Confession: I am disappointed that Half Life 3 will be a VR-title. It can be cool but what with most of us who don't have a VR and won't get into it for a long time into the future? I might buy the game 5 years later and the entire game will be spoiled, like was the case for GTA5. I don't see this game make a big difference for VR-adoption, even if that would double it still would be a tiny part of all the gamers. I think that this Half Life might become the Half Life for the 1% gamers, not the game that gets every PC-gamer on VR.
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bob
atx12vo is about cost optimizations. period. thats what people dont get about intel. theres a million little things they do that amd havent gotten around to yet. amd might soon enough but right now a 14nm intel 6 core laptop will have lower power usage browsing the web etc than a 7nm 6 core from amd. at full load, amd wins hands down. but at 10% to idle 14nm intel still wins because of power management in the cpu. they can idle at 3 watts and the igpu plays video on half a watt.
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atx12vo is about cost optimizations. period. thats what people dont get about intel. theres a million little things they do that amd havent gotten around to yet. amd might soon enough but right now a 14nm intel 6 core laptop will have lower power usage browsing the web etc than a 7nm 6 core from amd. at full load, amd wins hands down. but at 10% to idle 14nm intel still wins because of power management in the cpu. they can idle at 3 watts and the igpu plays video on half a watt.
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tech360gamer
I was a console gamer until the end of 2015 since being a pc gamer I do love the high refresh rate of games and even better since Nvidia now allows their GPUs to work with free-sync monitors. I have never played anything higher in resolution than 1080p and I prefer a higher frame rate than the higher resolution. That is until I do soon or later try out a 1440p/2160p monitor. Great show like always: ) Thanks all.
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I was a console gamer until the end of 2015 since being a pc gamer I do love the high refresh rate of games and even better since Nvidia now allows their GPUs to work with free-sync monitors. I have never played anything higher in resolution than 1080p and I prefer a higher frame rate than the higher resolution. That is until I do soon or later try out a 1440p/2160p monitor. Great show like always: ) Thanks all.
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Lexie
Its not high refresh you cant go back from, its a wide adaptive sync range you cant go back from. 37fps, 53fps, 86fps, 100fps whatever, as long as there's no tearing or stutter. I'd never go back from a monitor thats versatile, useful for whatever game im playing at whatever IQ i deem acceptable. Of course it depends on the game, i could never go back to anything under 120fps for online shooters.
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Its not high refresh you cant go back from, its a wide adaptive sync range you cant go back from. 37fps, 53fps, 86fps, 100fps whatever, as long as there's no tearing or stutter. I'd never go back from a monitor thats versatile, useful for whatever game im playing at whatever IQ i deem acceptable. Of course it depends on the game, i could never go back to anything under 120fps for online shooters.
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Peter
Only 1 take for Gordon his intro this time. Adam, you need to schedule more topics, make it more challenging for Gordon. Brad, I think that tablets are quite useful if you only want a small device to read text from it. It takes less space, it is easier to hold it. As an extra computer it can be nice. A phone is less suitable to read text from, the screen is too small.
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Only 1 take for Gordon his intro this time. Adam, you need to schedule more topics, make it more challenging for Gordon. Brad, I think that tablets are quite useful if you only want a small device to read text from it. It takes less space, it is easier to hold it. As an extra computer it can be nice. A phone is less suitable to read text from, the screen is too small.
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Lewis
I work for an IT dept. and we use all HP slim form factor PC's. This step-down feature on the board has been used for years. None of the PSU's in our slim HP machines have direct power from PSU to drives (optical, HDD or SSD. Everything comes off the motherboard via a 4-pin to SATA power cable. These machines date back to 2016 or earlier.
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I work for an IT dept. and we use all HP slim form factor PC's. This step-down feature on the board has been used for years. None of the PSU's in our slim HP machines have direct power from PSU to drives (optical, HDD or SSD. Everything comes off the motherboard via a 4-pin to SATA power cable. These machines date back to 2016 or earlier.
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Florida
The industrial sector pollutes the planet exponentially more than the consumer electronics sector. If you're concerned about saving this planet you might consider advocating for LFT reactors. Thorium is the sustainable energy that won't further pollute our environment and allow us to not banish us to a dark age.
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The industrial sector pollutes the planet exponentially more than the consumer electronics sector. If you're concerned about saving this planet you might consider advocating for LFT reactors. Thorium is the sustainable energy that won't further pollute our environment and allow us to not banish us to a dark age.
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Omland
ATX 12VO is probably a very nice solution, -
3. 3V and 5V are most affected by longer wires, etc. -
Generating these closer to the consumer is a big advantage, -
I bet you get active transition. within weeks of first pc / power supply leaves dealer. (small tray with 12vo in, and normal 24pin out, etc)
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ATX 12VO is probably a very nice solution, -
3. 3V and 5V are most affected by longer wires, etc. -
Generating these closer to the consumer is a big advantage, -
I bet you get active transition. within weeks of first pc / power supply leaves dealer. (small tray with 12vo in, and normal 24pin out, etc)
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