The Best Software Center For Debian and Ubuntu DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Russell
Synaptic is the only one I use on Debian, other than the terminal. I uninstall Gnome-Software or Discover. On Arch, I don't think Pamac is particularly good, either. I wish somebody would port Synaptic for Arch. Tkpacman is the closest thing to Synaptic that I've found for use on Arch. It's pretty good. For Debian, a Synaptic-like alternative that's pretty good is the Muon Package Manager. I ended up using it on a Debian-based distro that for some reason didn't have Synaptic in their repos. I've also used it to get around things that Synaptic won't let you do in some cases. That came into play when I was turning LMDE4 into a Bullseye/Sid installation. I used Muon to replace the Mint version of Synaptic with the standard Debian version 90. Mint's Synaptic version has system updating disabled. I also had to uninstall Mint Update, because it was not happy about the change to the Debian Bullseye and Sid repos. I suppose what I actually ended up with was Debian 11 Bullseye/Sid, though I still had the Linux Mint theming and some Mint utilities. I found later that an Unofficial non-free Debian 11 iso is available that made it much easier to get Debian 11 with proprietary drivers out of the box, using the Calamares installer. Even with that, Synaptic is still the best way to go through and uninstall all the locales and optional language packages that Debian leaves on your system.
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Synaptic is the only one I use on Debian, other than the terminal. I uninstall Gnome-Software or Discover. On Arch, I don't think Pamac is particularly good, either. I wish somebody would port Synaptic for Arch. Tkpacman is the closest thing to Synaptic that I've found for use on Arch. It's pretty good. For Debian, a Synaptic-like alternative that's pretty good is the Muon Package Manager. I ended up using it on a Debian-based distro that for some reason didn't have Synaptic in their repos. I've also used it to get around things that Synaptic won't let you do in some cases. That came into play when I was turning LMDE4 into a Bullseye/Sid installation. I used Muon to replace the Mint version of Synaptic with the standard Debian version 90. Mint's Synaptic version has system updating disabled. I also had to uninstall Mint Update, because it was not happy about the change to the Debian Bullseye and Sid repos. I suppose what I actually ended up with was Debian 11 Bullseye/Sid, though I still had the Linux Mint theming and some Mint utilities. I found later that an Unofficial non-free Debian 11 iso is available that made it much easier to get Debian 11 with proprietary drivers out of the box, using the Calamares installer. Even with that, Synaptic is still the best way to go through and uninstall all the locales and optional language packages that Debian leaves on your system.
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TRUTH
2 years ago having sought asylum in Linux because I was being oppressed by Win10.
I started off with PoP OS 18.-- and now I seem to have Ubuntu 21.04 with the KDE DE.
Until I understand how I managed to do that I should probably stick to the more automatic functionality of the Discovery package manager. Even with that said it used to require root permission to install and now it has stopped asking for my Super-Secret password. I can only assume that I am always logged in as root, which I've heard is dangerous, but I don't know how or how to get back to logging in as a user with non-root permissions.
So much to learn!
I love it!
Widows made me feel like they think I'm just a dumb-ass and I'll always be a dumb-ass so what's the point of trying to teach me anything!
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2 years ago having sought asylum in Linux because I was being oppressed by Win10.
I started off with PoP OS 18.-- and now I seem to have Ubuntu 21.04 with the KDE DE.
Until I understand how I managed to do that I should probably stick to the more automatic functionality of the Discovery package manager. Even with that said it used to require root permission to install and now it has stopped asking for my Super-Secret password. I can only assume that I am always logged in as root, which I've heard is dangerous, but I don't know how or how to get back to logging in as a user with non-root permissions.
So much to learn!
I love it!
Widows made me feel like they think I'm just a dumb-ass and I'll always be a dumb-ass so what's the point of trying to teach me anything!
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Josh
It's intuitive for those that already understand Linux. For those that don't its a very scary looking thing like the terminal. If Linux WANTS a bigger market share and a more diverse background of people using it the various distro developers have to cater to what those users will be more comfortable with. For example, my first attempt at using linux, I had synaptic package manager because the more streamlined versions of today were not the default, I saw that, shut down and reinstalled windows.
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It's intuitive for those that already understand Linux. For those that don't its a very scary looking thing like the terminal. If Linux WANTS a bigger market share and a more diverse background of people using it the various distro developers have to cater to what those users will be more comfortable with. For example, my first attempt at using linux, I had synaptic package manager because the more streamlined versions of today were not the default, I saw that, shut down and reinstalled windows.
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Brian
new install of Kubuntu 20.04. Discover doesn't work right. I'm familiar with Synaptic, so installed version .0.84.6ubuntu5. i would like to uninstall Discover but need a gui that can keep track of updates. when i open Synaptic and click settings, repositories, i get a different window than yours has. At 12:32 yours says, -Software & Updates- while mine says -Repositories-. I don't see any way on mine to update.
What version is yours?
Am i missing something?
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new install of Kubuntu 20.04. Discover doesn't work right. I'm familiar with Synaptic, so installed version .0.84.6ubuntu5. i would like to uninstall Discover but need a gui that can keep track of updates. when i open Synaptic and click settings, repositories, i get a different window than yours has. At 12:32 yours says, -Software & Updates- while mine says -Repositories-. I don't see any way on mine to update.
What version is yours?
Am i missing something?
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MeCrumbly429
this reminds me of aptitude. Aptitude is, for those who don't know, an advanced apt frontend with WAY more features. for instance, use aptitude [X flag here] as you would with apt, but launch aptitude on it's own for a TUI interface (bearing a striking resemblance to Dselect, without the shittiness of course). Just take a look at the man page for aptitude, and you'll know what I mean.
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this reminds me of aptitude. Aptitude is, for those who don't know, an advanced apt frontend with WAY more features. for instance, use aptitude [X flag here] as you would with apt, but launch aptitude on it's own for a TUI interface (bearing a striking resemblance to Dselect, without the shittiness of course). Just take a look at the man page for aptitude, and you'll know what I mean.
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brickviking
Nice video, and well explained. I have to fully concur with Synaptic being a great package manager. I wish I could agree with Ubuntu's decision but I don't. I reinstalled Synaptic on any Ubuntu machine I deal with. And of course I really miss Synaptic on Fedora, they've got nothing really comparable as of Fedora 28 except for dnfdragora which isn't as good in my opinion.
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Nice video, and well explained. I have to fully concur with Synaptic being a great package manager. I wish I could agree with Ubuntu's decision but I don't. I reinstalled Synaptic on any Ubuntu machine I deal with. And of course I really miss Synaptic on Fedora, they've got nothing really comparable as of Fedora 28 except for dnfdragora which isn't as good in my opinion.
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ippos_khloros
I like the mobile app store style. My issue with _GNOME Software_ is that it still feels like it's in beta. It's very sparse on information, and it doesn't work half the time. I appreciate that it's a community effort... but still, GNOME is one of the largest Linux projects, with one of the most polished DEs, yet its graphical manager feels unfinished. What gives?
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I like the mobile app store style. My issue with _GNOME Software_ is that it still feels like it's in beta. It's very sparse on information, and it doesn't work half the time. I appreciate that it's a community effort... but still, GNOME is one of the largest Linux projects, with one of the most polished DEs, yet its graphical manager feels unfinished. What gives?
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Allwin
For a new user who is switching to linux an appstore with screenshots matter as they are still discovering their apps. You don't want to scare them away with synaptic.
I mean lib23gtk whatever that means in Synaptic? For distribution targeting first time users i can understand why these stores exist. It also helps them discover new apps.
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For a new user who is switching to linux an appstore with screenshots matter as they are still discovering their apps. You don't want to scare them away with synaptic.
I mean lib23gtk whatever that means in Synaptic? For distribution targeting first time users i can understand why these stores exist. It also helps them discover new apps.
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Henry
People like us, who have been using Linux voor years, we just use the terminal.
To attracked new users, just average Joe users the new package managers make great sense.
And that is the public Linux people have to be nicer to, much nicer. Otherwise Linux will always be an Operating System for NERDS (yes like me, and most of you here).
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People like us, who have been using Linux voor years, we just use the terminal.
To attracked new users, just average Joe users the new package managers make great sense.
And that is the public Linux people have to be nicer to, much nicer. Otherwise Linux will always be an Operating System for NERDS (yes like me, and most of you here).
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Vuk
When I clicked the video and saw the title my first thought was -oh good something better than synaptic!- lol.
I use KDE Neon and while I haven't had too many issues in using Discover, I still often times use synaptic. Even my dad who distro hops between many Ubuntu based distros, always puts synaptic in first.
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When I clicked the video and saw the title my first thought was -oh good something better than synaptic!- lol.
I use KDE Neon and while I haven't had too many issues in using Discover, I still often times use synaptic. Even my dad who distro hops between many Ubuntu based distros, always puts synaptic in first.
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