Intel Core Ultra 5 245K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 5700X3D, 13700K, & More
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Date: 2024-10-26
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MDxGano
I was tempted to go for this cpu as a 11600k replacement (more so due to failing usb ports on the mobo than it being too slow). The power consumption on 11600k is also a little out of hand at times, dawing 90w under full load at bone stock and having no issues drawing 144w when overclocked. This was all getting to be a bit much for a NHU-12s cooler to keep silent.
Perhaps in 6 months the kinks will be ironed out and perhaps a $20-30 sale Going up to an I7 or R7 simply just isnt going to make a world of difference on a 4070ti and I don't think trying to future proof on the cpu side right now is going to change the overall experience aside from higher power draw and more money sunk into it. I also don't game at low settings, so would see almost no difference vs my current cpu (of course there will be uplifts, just not $1000 CAD worth of them IMO).
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I was tempted to go for this cpu as a 11600k replacement (more so due to failing usb ports on the mobo than it being too slow). The power consumption on 11600k is also a little out of hand at times, dawing 90w under full load at bone stock and having no issues drawing 144w when overclocked. This was all getting to be a bit much for a NHU-12s cooler to keep silent.
Perhaps in 6 months the kinks will be ironed out and perhaps a $20-30 sale Going up to an I7 or R7 simply just isnt going to make a world of difference on a 4070ti and I don't think trying to future proof on the cpu side right now is going to change the overall experience aside from higher power draw and more money sunk into it. I also don't game at low settings, so would see almost no difference vs my current cpu (of course there will be uplifts, just not $1000 CAD worth of them IMO).
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AirGunWeb
Okay, so hold on. I'm looking at 11:16, and am I seeing correctly that the BRAND NEW CPU is 15 FPS off the BEST result on the scale Are we really spending this much time and energy on 15FPS If this isn't proof that the PC market has completely stagnated, I don't know what else could make the point. I feel for the PC content creators right now. How do you make vanilla exciting And back again to 15FPS.. Is that really even noticeable in actual use Anyway.. all this drama with Intel and AMD caused me to see the light and switch back to MAC. No more Drama.. I still game on a PC: 12700 w/ RTX 4070 and that's probably going to be my gaming rig for the foreseeable future. No need to sidegrade at this time..
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Rick
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Okay, so hold on. I'm looking at 11:16, and am I seeing correctly that the BRAND NEW CPU is 15 FPS off the BEST result on the scale Are we really spending this much time and energy on 15FPS If this isn't proof that the PC market has completely stagnated, I don't know what else could make the point. I feel for the PC content creators right now. How do you make vanilla exciting And back again to 15FPS.. Is that really even noticeable in actual use Anyway.. all this drama with Intel and AMD caused me to see the light and switch back to MAC. No more Drama.. I still game on a PC: 12700 w/ RTX 4070 and that's probably going to be my gaming rig for the foreseeable future. No need to sidegrade at this time..
Cheers
Rick
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Bobo-ey8fc
It seems anytime Steve and team do one of their investigative stories on a company (and I use the term Investigative loosely) he is mercilessly bias against that company afterwards. And the Intel rollout is no different. The CPUs are far from perfect, but the only reviewer I saw with an actual objective review so far was Jay.
And I'm no Intel fanboy as I build far more AMD pcs for clients than Intel, by quite a bit. That being said, at least my Microcenter has sold quite a few of these processors already. Currently the 285K is sold out, the 265K only has a handful left and the 245K is down to one in stock. So people are buying these chips.
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It seems anytime Steve and team do one of their investigative stories on a company (and I use the term Investigative loosely) he is mercilessly bias against that company afterwards. And the Intel rollout is no different. The CPUs are far from perfect, but the only reviewer I saw with an actual objective review so far was Jay.
And I'm no Intel fanboy as I build far more AMD pcs for clients than Intel, by quite a bit. That being said, at least my Microcenter has sold quite a few of these processors already. Currently the 285K is sold out, the 265K only has a handful left and the 245K is down to one in stock. So people are buying these chips.
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GiGaSzS
Just as expected, Intel has done only marketing to try and fix their mess with over-pushed CPUs.
Happy to see my AM4 platform is still perfectly viable.
If only Windows 11 would not be so greedy with the resources, we could be living in a perfect PC world, where we do not need any new hardware until it breaks.
And developers would be pushed to better optimize their products.
My suggestion to Intel (and other struggling companies), do not release broken products just because of the roadmap. Roadmaps are there to prevent stagnation not create one :|
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Just as expected, Intel has done only marketing to try and fix their mess with over-pushed CPUs.
Happy to see my AM4 platform is still perfectly viable.
If only Windows 11 would not be so greedy with the resources, we could be living in a perfect PC world, where we do not need any new hardware until it breaks.
And developers would be pushed to better optimize their products.
My suggestion to Intel (and other struggling companies), do not release broken products just because of the roadmap. Roadmaps are there to prevent stagnation not create one :|
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OnTheRocks71
The mobile Lunar Lake SOC's actually seem very impressive in terms of delivering on what laptop buyers want; excellent power consumption while doing mundane tasks like browsing and and streaming while offering an integrated graphics solution that actually has some muscle. It's almost like that's where all the dollars went, and Arrow Lake was a bit of an afterthought. Maybe the company can earn some marks with Battlemage and their Xe2 cores if they actually decide to build the things. And are still a company.
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The mobile Lunar Lake SOC's actually seem very impressive in terms of delivering on what laptop buyers want; excellent power consumption while doing mundane tasks like browsing and and streaming while offering an integrated graphics solution that actually has some muscle. It's almost like that's where all the dollars went, and Arrow Lake was a bit of an afterthought. Maybe the company can earn some marks with Battlemage and their Xe2 cores if they actually decide to build the things. And are still a company.
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JS-wl3gi
The increase in wattage is going to kill the PC industry and the platform has a whole. Burning main-board, CPU degradation failures, GPU and cables burning, metal vapor coming from the rack extra.
You would think after decades the standards would get better, but its lies on top of lies. Intel is changing all right they are in need of replacing the people that got them here in the first place. They need to regroup build around more solid technologies and let the new ones be more tested.
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The increase in wattage is going to kill the PC industry and the platform has a whole. Burning main-board, CPU degradation failures, GPU and cables burning, metal vapor coming from the rack extra.
You would think after decades the standards would get better, but its lies on top of lies. Intel is changing all right they are in need of replacing the people that got them here in the first place. They need to regroup build around more solid technologies and let the new ones be more tested.
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RandallRoman
How do you conduct your Stellaris testing I understand it is a fixed amount of work that's being done, and you time how long it takes to do it, but I don't get how you extract that from the game. I looked on the GN site and didn't find details on it. FPS is easy to understand how you get that. Is there a more in-depth discussion of it that I'm not finding on the site I play a lot of Stellaris, so this is an important stat for me, and I really appreciate it being in the CPU benchmarks.
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How do you conduct your Stellaris testing I understand it is a fixed amount of work that's being done, and you time how long it takes to do it, but I don't get how you extract that from the game. I looked on the GN site and didn't find details on it. FPS is easy to understand how you get that. Is there a more in-depth discussion of it that I'm not finding on the site I play a lot of Stellaris, so this is an important stat for me, and I really appreciate it being in the CPU benchmarks.
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JuliusTheTiger
I'm starting to wonder about having a few mid-range cards benchmarked with different CPU tiers, maybe even done with a lower-range GPU.
On an RTX 4090, the differences look enormous going from Ryzen 3700X to something like a 7800X3D to where it looks like going from Ryzen 7800X3D to the Ryzen 3700X is like several tiers less of a GPU, maybe even 3-4 tiers. We are in a different world because of how CPU and RAM tech have been exploding. I wonder how many of the rules have changed
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I'm starting to wonder about having a few mid-range cards benchmarked with different CPU tiers, maybe even done with a lower-range GPU.
On an RTX 4090, the differences look enormous going from Ryzen 3700X to something like a 7800X3D to where it looks like going from Ryzen 7800X3D to the Ryzen 3700X is like several tiers less of a GPU, maybe even 3-4 tiers. We are in a different world because of how CPU and RAM tech have been exploding. I wonder how many of the rules have changed
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thejaegerbomber99
This is embarrasing for Intel. I've been using a 13600K for more than a year now, and seeing it consistenly outperforming the 245K left me with mixed feelings. Glad, because my CPU still holds its own in 2024, and disappointed because there was performance regression, even after 2 years since the launch of the 13600K. If Intel doesn't get it together when it's time to replace my CPU, I'll go AMD next time.
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This is embarrasing for Intel. I've been using a 13600K for more than a year now, and seeing it consistenly outperforming the 245K left me with mixed feelings. Glad, because my CPU still holds its own in 2024, and disappointed because there was performance regression, even after 2 years since the launch of the 13600K. If Intel doesn't get it together when it's time to replace my CPU, I'll go AMD next time.
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turbogamer1762
I don't think this is a bad CPU gen for Intel at all. Intel is putting in the work to set up their CPUs for a better future.
Meanwhile, AMD relies too much on gluing a large cache to their mediocre CPUs to boost performance.
I just wish that tech reviewers stop being so heavily AMD-biased in all their reviews. This is not fare to views who are looking for a completely unbiased review.
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I don't think this is a bad CPU gen for Intel at all. Intel is putting in the work to set up their CPUs for a better future.
Meanwhile, AMD relies too much on gluing a large cache to their mediocre CPUs to boost performance.
I just wish that tech reviewers stop being so heavily AMD-biased in all their reviews. This is not fare to views who are looking for a completely unbiased review.
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xXCrazyGamer21xX
Out of curiosity, If it's possible I'd like to see the performance of these new Core Ultra CPUs with the E-cores disabled, I don't think these CPUs will fair very well without having to offload onto the E-cores, (assuming games will even do that) not having Hyper-Threading was a huge mistake in my opinion, that's the main reason why many old CPUs are still viable today.
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Out of curiosity, If it's possible I'd like to see the performance of these new Core Ultra CPUs with the E-cores disabled, I don't think these CPUs will fair very well without having to offload onto the E-cores, (assuming games will even do that) not having Hyper-Threading was a huge mistake in my opinion, that's the main reason why many old CPUs are still viable today.
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mathesar
It's interesting how these Ultra CPU's do worse than most with 1% lows in some games but then better than most in others, makes me think there is room for improvement via bios etc updates, Guess we'll see as i'm in no rush to upgrade from my current 13600K ill probably end up waiting until the next generation from both amd/intel.
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It's interesting how these Ultra CPU's do worse than most with 1% lows in some games but then better than most in others, makes me think there is room for improvement via bios etc updates, Guess we'll see as i'm in no rush to upgrade from my current 13600K ill probably end up waiting until the next generation from both amd/intel.
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kennethwilson8236
the 265K looks like the sweet spot. We really need Motherboard comparisons on this cpu lineup due to various configurations and what seem to be BIO Implementations. I am leaning towards a Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wifi7 board due to onboard error code readout and on board start and reset buttons at a reasonable price
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the 265K looks like the sweet spot. We really need Motherboard comparisons on this cpu lineup due to various configurations and what seem to be BIO Implementations. I am leaning towards a Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wifi7 board due to onboard error code readout and on board start and reset buttons at a reasonable price
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guiltygamerxrd
I need to state every so often I'm very happy you test FFXIV. I'm still using an i5 9600K and want to upgrade within the next year... As it's one of the only games I play regularly I'm very tempted to just get as cheap of an X3D setup as I can and call it a day until something replaces FFXIV for me.
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I need to state every so often I'm very happy you test FFXIV. I'm still using an i5 9600K and want to upgrade within the next year... As it's one of the only games I play regularly I'm very tempted to just get as cheap of an X3D setup as I can and call it a day until something replaces FFXIV for me.
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CalgarGTX
I have no idea how they(Intel) ended up with those power draw curves shown at 5:25 but surely it has to have a negative impact on perf & efficiency & expected lifetime of the part when you have power draw spiking 3x over up and down every few seconds from multiple input paths. That looks bonkers.
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I have no idea how they(Intel) ended up with those power draw curves shown at 5:25 but surely it has to have a negative impact on perf & efficiency & expected lifetime of the part when you have power draw spiking 3x over up and down every few seconds from multiple input paths. That looks bonkers.
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blendpinexus1416
likely gonna build my next system with the 245k as the 9800x3d is probably gonna be more expensive than the 245k. hate me if you want but 90% of the time i wouldn't notice any performance difference between the two cpus with the other 10% just being from the extra cores/threads of the 245k
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likely gonna build my next system with the 245k as the 9800x3d is probably gonna be more expensive than the 245k. hate me if you want but 90% of the time i wouldn't notice any performance difference between the two cpus with the other 10% just being from the extra cores/threads of the 245k
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gunstargizmo
This is a start in the right direction. They weren’t implying that it would blow the doors off the competition. Intel held the CPU crown for almost two decades, so they’ve earned the right to slip. Also, people do use computers for more than gaming. Some people do have productive lives.
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This is a start in the right direction. They weren’t implying that it would blow the doors off the competition. Intel held the CPU crown for almost two decades, so they’ve earned the right to slip. Also, people do use computers for more than gaming. Some people do have productive lives.
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kdc420421
If these worked in the LGA 1700 they MIGHT be worth upgrading from a 12th gen because of the 13-14th gen problems. But they fact that they need a New MoBo they are straight up DOA since the old AMD x3d beats them and the new x3d is a month away. There is LITERALLY no good reason to buy these
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If these worked in the LGA 1700 they MIGHT be worth upgrading from a 12th gen because of the 13-14th gen problems. But they fact that they need a New MoBo they are straight up DOA since the old AMD x3d beats them and the new x3d is a month away. There is LITERALLY no good reason to buy these
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otacon72
Intel doesn’t care about gaming because it represents a small fraction of PC sales. Efficiency and productivity is what matters and they reign king. I left PC gaming behind LONG ago because it little financial sense. You all can troll me all you want but everything I said is the truth.
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Intel doesn’t care about gaming because it represents a small fraction of PC sales. Efficiency and productivity is what matters and they reign king. I left PC gaming behind LONG ago because it little financial sense. You all can troll me all you want but everything I said is the truth.
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rcarb024
Does anyone know if buying a used PC with an intel i5 13600k is a terrible idea for a casual gamer I’m looking to hop on and play some games and hop off. Not diagnose issues day in day out. So is that voltage issue thing a huge concern or a minor inconvenience
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Does anyone know if buying a used PC with an intel i5 13600k is a terrible idea for a casual gamer I’m looking to hop on and play some games and hop off. Not diagnose issues day in day out. So is that voltage issue thing a huge concern or a minor inconvenience
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