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9. 2 Eternity-s End (2022): Arthas' Fate - All Cutscenes in ORDER [Pre Dragonflight Lore]
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Date: 2023-11-25
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Karen
I hate how they 'ended' Arthas. While it was his power hungry persona that went after the helm of domination and Frostmourne in the first place, it was Ner'zul and, inevitably, the Jailer who controlled him. Anyone the jailer dominated had no choice. they had to do his bidding - just like Sylvanas did to the -The Lich King. - She was enraged at Arthas, but it wasn't him. And at the end, to have Arthas' spirit just -disappear? - I was so disappointed and upset! Sylvanas had a redemption storyline, why not Arthas? Someone who was truly in the grip of the jailer. Sylvanas, while doing the jailer's bidding, was not CONTROLLED by him like Arthas was and she annihilated Teldrassil and killed thousands. then to have Sylvanas give his Arthas' last Eulogy? I was not a happy camper. Yes, the person of -Arthas- had done bad things, but it wasn't really Arthas - it was Ner'zul and the Jailer. WHY can't WoW give a better ending for one of the most popular characters of WoW legend and lore? To have Arthas just disappear like he never existed? And to have Jaina not say a THING when Arthas' spirit just vanished. -facepalm- I have all the lore books, followed every piece of lore in the game. I just don't get it. I just had to vent and lament one of my two favorite characters EVER in World of Warcraft! (My other fav is Khadgar)
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I hate how they 'ended' Arthas. While it was his power hungry persona that went after the helm of domination and Frostmourne in the first place, it was Ner'zul and, inevitably, the Jailer who controlled him. Anyone the jailer dominated had no choice. they had to do his bidding - just like Sylvanas did to the -The Lich King. - She was enraged at Arthas, but it wasn't him. And at the end, to have Arthas' spirit just -disappear? - I was so disappointed and upset! Sylvanas had a redemption storyline, why not Arthas? Someone who was truly in the grip of the jailer. Sylvanas, while doing the jailer's bidding, was not CONTROLLED by him like Arthas was and she annihilated Teldrassil and killed thousands. then to have Sylvanas give his Arthas' last Eulogy? I was not a happy camper. Yes, the person of -Arthas- had done bad things, but it wasn't really Arthas - it was Ner'zul and the Jailer. WHY can't WoW give a better ending for one of the most popular characters of WoW legend and lore? To have Arthas just disappear like he never existed? And to have Jaina not say a THING when Arthas' spirit just vanished. -facepalm- I have all the lore books, followed every piece of lore in the game. I just don't get it. I just had to vent and lament one of my two favorite characters EVER in World of Warcraft! (My other fav is Khadgar)
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Doc
This Story has been -Remade for modern Audiences-
We are shown The Jailer, Zovaal, The true Lich King, has powers to corrupt and CONTROL even the most honorable ( Anduin)
-but arthas is the root of all evil, he should be forgotten, never forgiven or redeemed, too lost-
Sylvannus, split personailty BS or not MADE HER OWN CHOICES.
So very Contrived, so very offensive.
Its not Sylvannus Windrunner anymore people its Sylvannus -Skywalker-
I'm literally so offended that Uther still hates Arthas and blames him for all the bad shit ZOVAAL canonically made him do.
But sylvannus gets a pass for making deals with him, of her own free will. no matter how many times they slap me with -bUt InTeRnAlLy ShE StRuGgLeD- Multipersonality BS once again a woman gets redeemed with Excuses while the man is hated for being controlled.
Warcraft 3, WotLK, Arthas, The Lich King, Uther EVEN Sylvannus up to BFA and Shadowlands, were all so near and dear to my heart and they RUINED it ALL. It's like Kathleen Kennedy got her hands on this crap.
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This Story has been -Remade for modern Audiences-
We are shown The Jailer, Zovaal, The true Lich King, has powers to corrupt and CONTROL even the most honorable ( Anduin)
-but arthas is the root of all evil, he should be forgotten, never forgiven or redeemed, too lost-
Sylvannus, split personailty BS or not MADE HER OWN CHOICES.
So very Contrived, so very offensive.
Its not Sylvannus Windrunner anymore people its Sylvannus -Skywalker-
I'm literally so offended that Uther still hates Arthas and blames him for all the bad shit ZOVAAL canonically made him do.
But sylvannus gets a pass for making deals with him, of her own free will. no matter how many times they slap me with -bUt InTeRnAlLy ShE StRuGgLeD- Multipersonality BS once again a woman gets redeemed with Excuses while the man is hated for being controlled.
Warcraft 3, WotLK, Arthas, The Lich King, Uther EVEN Sylvannus up to BFA and Shadowlands, were all so near and dear to my heart and they RUINED it ALL. It's like Kathleen Kennedy got her hands on this crap.
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Mel
The fact that the Jailer was behind everything and that Sylvanas -is the only one- are so dumb, but the parts with Uther speaking with Jaina and Thrall with his mother are so lovely and wholesome. Plus, Elune's -I have condemned my favored children- gets me every time; -; I just want Sylvanas out of the story once and for all, but Uther's words to her were touching. -We cannot change the past, and we may never find forgiveness in the future. But inaction damns us all. - Truly words to live by.
On another note, thank you for this edit, adding the pieces from the cinematics and the phrases from Warcraft in the Uther/Arthas interaction made it so much better, well done.
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The fact that the Jailer was behind everything and that Sylvanas -is the only one- are so dumb, but the parts with Uther speaking with Jaina and Thrall with his mother are so lovely and wholesome. Plus, Elune's -I have condemned my favored children- gets me every time; -; I just want Sylvanas out of the story once and for all, but Uther's words to her were touching. -We cannot change the past, and we may never find forgiveness in the future. But inaction damns us all. - Truly words to live by.
On another note, thank you for this edit, adding the pieces from the cinematics and the phrases from Warcraft in the Uther/Arthas interaction made it so much better, well done.
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Namoth
sighs. just like with pandaria. should just leet it be a 'chill' expansion free quater with just some tasty world expansion but nhoooo must hamfist some more 'hell' or 'its all decided! ' leaning crap and just decide a main character go bonkers. or other tosh. pff, honestly i find the whole crap about making 'souls' something extra special. just derailing from the continuity of the universe basics to, or th whole 'death' is a yada 'entity' in of itself or such. mhe
rad as little moments of Illidans ''screw you fate'' is. they are far and to few between to keep the connection to the original games tone etc
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sighs. just like with pandaria. should just leet it be a 'chill' expansion free quater with just some tasty world expansion but nhoooo must hamfist some more 'hell' or 'its all decided! ' leaning crap and just decide a main character go bonkers. or other tosh. pff, honestly i find the whole crap about making 'souls' something extra special. just derailing from the continuity of the universe basics to, or th whole 'death' is a yada 'entity' in of itself or such. mhe
rad as little moments of Illidans ''screw you fate'' is. they are far and to few between to keep the connection to the original games tone etc
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Bastalam
I just watched the end vid of new raid and I honestly can't tell what was the insistence on having sylvanas after SoD raid? Did I miss something or was her purpose being there was just to annoy fanbase? She didn't provide or do anything we already didn't know of or couldn't do. I really hope that Dansure guy steps down (not fired - He needs to eat) and have someone else take the lead. Also if rumors that Dansure never read or knew anything about the old lore are true than whoever made that decision to make him the lead also needs to step down. Way to destroy the legacy of your own IP.
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I just watched the end vid of new raid and I honestly can't tell what was the insistence on having sylvanas after SoD raid? Did I miss something or was her purpose being there was just to annoy fanbase? She didn't provide or do anything we already didn't know of or couldn't do. I really hope that Dansure guy steps down (not fired - He needs to eat) and have someone else take the lead. Also if rumors that Dansure never read or knew anything about the old lore are true than whoever made that decision to make him the lead also needs to step down. Way to destroy the legacy of your own IP.
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Oscar
I only watched this just because I couldn't be bothered queing up for raids that I always end up being killed in, both because of my bare minimum item level gear. and because of the others not listening to instructions and instead get wiped.
The only reason I go back to WoW is roleplaying with my Goblin, and even that part within me is struggling to keep that candle lit.
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I only watched this just because I couldn't be bothered queing up for raids that I always end up being killed in, both because of my bare minimum item level gear. and because of the others not listening to instructions and instead get wiped.
The only reason I go back to WoW is roleplaying with my Goblin, and even that part within me is struggling to keep that candle lit.
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Firebird101
Sylvanas is a bloody idiot, the almost literal definition of the worst villain ever and her character is so annoying, keeps thinking she is making her own decisions but ends up just following someone else endlessly, but I do feel like her character before she was undead was cool just because she was a commander and protector to the sun well
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Sylvanas is a bloody idiot, the almost literal definition of the worst villain ever and her character is so annoying, keeps thinking she is making her own decisions but ends up just following someone else endlessly, but I do feel like her character before she was undead was cool just because she was a commander and protector to the sun well
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Christina
Man.
Hard F for Anduin. Leave my boy alone
I feel like also they shouldn't have tinkered with Sylvanas's story to warrant a redemption arc, but rather just let us know how her soul is split. One of my favorite characters. Had a nice little tear up cause her and Uther's conversation was something relatable and also sad
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Man.
Hard F for Anduin. Leave my boy alone
I feel like also they shouldn't have tinkered with Sylvanas's story to warrant a redemption arc, but rather just let us know how her soul is split. One of my favorite characters. Had a nice little tear up cause her and Uther's conversation was something relatable and also sad
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Stormspark
Everyone talks about how -cunning- Zovaal is, but he's just a generic evil overlord with no development, no motivations, no real character at all. I guess it's appropriate that he turned into a robot at the end. This expansion was the epitome of -tell don't show- which is a cardinal sin of storytelling.
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Everyone talks about how -cunning- Zovaal is, but he's just a generic evil overlord with no development, no motivations, no real character at all. I guess it's appropriate that he turned into a robot at the end. This expansion was the epitome of -tell don't show- which is a cardinal sin of storytelling.
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Pedro
WoW by now is: bad guy appears, either aided from some spy from our side or someone who turly turned before the other expansion, bad guy does bad stuff, we fix some of that stuff, bad guy fulfills their objective to get somewhere, we go after them, they say they will destroy them, we hummilliate their ass.
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WoW by now is: bad guy appears, either aided from some spy from our side or someone who turly turned before the other expansion, bad guy does bad stuff, we fix some of that stuff, bad guy fulfills their objective to get somewhere, we go after them, they say they will destroy them, we hummilliate their ass.
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Haoxus
I liked the ending of arthus. He embraced lichking and jailors control, become a puppet, and had no agency of himself.
The last flicker represented what's remained of his original soul, after stripping the dark influences.
A sad anticlimactic ending of him, yet fitting, in my humble opinion
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I liked the ending of arthus. He embraced lichking and jailors control, become a puppet, and had no agency of himself.
The last flicker represented what's remained of his original soul, after stripping the dark influences.
A sad anticlimactic ending of him, yet fitting, in my humble opinion
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KingDennisJensen
I've been playing Warcraft since the original on disc, Warcraft: Orcs & Humans. Perhaps the reason why WoW felt so amazing is we saw the characters come to life and we immersed ourselves in the world itself. This was a really well put together video for people to catch up on the lore!
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I've been playing Warcraft since the original on disc, Warcraft: Orcs & Humans. Perhaps the reason why WoW felt so amazing is we saw the characters come to life and we immersed ourselves in the world itself. This was a really well put together video for people to catch up on the lore!
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hashkeeper
this is premium cut industrial grade propaganda hahahaha I still say the american empire is at the end of a slow cook propaganda fueled devolution (in one sense/definition of that word, maybe we can engineer an actual governmental devolution) yeah damn this sucks!
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this is premium cut industrial grade propaganda hahahaha I still say the american empire is at the end of a slow cook propaganda fueled devolution (in one sense/definition of that word, maybe we can engineer an actual governmental devolution) yeah damn this sucks!
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squiretoad
That was very interesting, very informative. I never thought I could ever forgive the Banshee Queen for her crimes and sins. but perhaps there is yet hope. Heh, didn't think I had it in me to be a good paladin: -) Or even understand what one should be!
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That was very interesting, very informative. I never thought I could ever forgive the Banshee Queen for her crimes and sins. but perhaps there is yet hope. Heh, didn't think I had it in me to be a good paladin: -) Or even understand what one should be!
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Randogaming
Tell about the game what you want. Hate it or love it but the cinematics are always great: D If i find one day the 7 Dragonballs i ask Shenlong to make a cool cinematic movie from World of Warcraft with all the accurate lore
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Tell about the game what you want. Hate it or love it but the cinematics are always great: D If i find one day the 7 Dragonballs i ask Shenlong to make a cool cinematic movie from World of Warcraft with all the accurate lore
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Briansgate
Wow. I can't believe the writing. Generic at it's best, laughable at it's worst.
Y'all remember when the players were actually important and not just errand-runners?
But, Athelarius, great job putting these together.
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Wow. I can't believe the writing. Generic at it's best, laughable at it's worst.
Y'all remember when the players were actually important and not just errand-runners?
But, Athelarius, great job putting these together.
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AglaicaED
I may of gone from wow, but I thank you for putting this together so I could see some of the story and keep up on some basic lore while chatting with friends who still play. I miss my dwarf and tauren somedays.
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I may of gone from wow, but I thank you for putting this together so I could see some of the story and keep up on some basic lore while chatting with friends who still play. I miss my dwarf and tauren somedays.
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MissSkitty
They did my gal Sylvanas so dirty. Smh. - The whole thing puts a dead halt to me ever wanting to get back into it. WoTlK was the last great part, loved her facing off with the Lich King. The rest is ---
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They did my gal Sylvanas so dirty. Smh. - The whole thing puts a dead halt to me ever wanting to get back into it. WoTlK was the last great part, loved her facing off with the Lich King. The rest is ---
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Mark
This isn't in order at all. Chapter 2, Jailer returns Sylvanas' soul. 26: 18 She fights Tyrande with red eyes again as the Banshee Queen. I dunno where you got the timeline from but check your sources
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This isn't in order at all. Chapter 2, Jailer returns Sylvanas' soul. 26: 18 She fights Tyrande with red eyes again as the Banshee Queen. I dunno where you got the timeline from but check your sources
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Yohann
I see 3 old favorite heroes from Warcraft 3 reunited again and 2 former allies from an alliance at hyjall a friends again, kinda a wholesome moment for a bit. Sorry I'm not a WoW player
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I see 3 old favorite heroes from Warcraft 3 reunited again and 2 former allies from an alliance at hyjall a friends again, kinda a wholesome moment for a bit. Sorry I'm not a WoW player
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Hunter
Point of order for thrall not choosing the path of Garrosh. He didn-t give him a choice, Garrosh spoke against himself being warchief, and thrall still did it so yes he is responsible
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Point of order for thrall not choosing the path of Garrosh. He didn-t give him a choice, Garrosh spoke against himself being warchief, and thrall still did it so yes he is responsible
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MamboJambo
Arthas deserved better. The Jaina and Arthas love line deserved better. Uther. Frostmourne, the Helm of Domination. All those great stories made, all of them deserved better.
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Arthas deserved better. The Jaina and Arthas love line deserved better. Uther. Frostmourne, the Helm of Domination. All those great stories made, all of them deserved better.
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Horace
-Gawd-. Can't stand gear/raid based MMORPGs now. They are so outdated. Really wish a new company would go in a totally different direction instead of doing the same old -chit. -
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-Gawd-. Can't stand gear/raid based MMORPGs now. They are so outdated. Really wish a new company would go in a totally different direction instead of doing the same old -chit. -
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Eric
As a horde player predominately and seeing this reminds me of how Sylvanas has been twisted by everything, she every came in contact with It's heartbreaking.
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As a horde player predominately and seeing this reminds me of how Sylvanas has been twisted by everything, she every came in contact with It's heartbreaking.
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Austin
Sad to see Sylvanas portrayed like this our Banshee Queen will always live on! Horde Characters always used to fuel hate for them from the players. Big sad
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Sad to see Sylvanas portrayed like this our Banshee Queen will always live on! Horde Characters always used to fuel hate for them from the players. Big sad
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Elthenar
Ya know, I can understand why people hate Sylvanis, what with the crappy writing and all. I for one simply adore her voice acting. Its simply perfect.
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Ya know, I can understand why people hate Sylvanis, what with the crappy writing and all. I for one simply adore her voice acting. Its simply perfect.
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Nepnep
anyone else noticed the last cutscene is the same as when vol'jin died very creative stuff blizzard keep up the great work you're doing good
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anyone else noticed the last cutscene is the same as when vol'jin died very creative stuff blizzard keep up the great work you're doing good
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Witcher
sorry man, this edit doesn't make any sense at all. Very bad decision to interlap things and just confuse everything as a result
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sorry man, this edit doesn't make any sense at all. Very bad decision to interlap things and just confuse everything as a result
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UltimegaSeven
The worst story Ive ever had ever seen. Everything the community built, everything the game stands for, all destroyed.
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The worst story Ive ever had ever seen. Everything the community built, everything the game stands for, all destroyed.
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Marcelo
where can u see those cinematics in game? i-ve played the expansion but i didnt see the ones where sylvs and the jailer talks
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where can u see those cinematics in game? i-ve played the expansion but i didnt see the ones where sylvs and the jailer talks
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