How Puppy Dog Eyes Evolved to Match Humans
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Date: 2022-07-07
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Buffster
I find the term -artificial selection- a bit strange, at least in our current era. It was defined during the Victorian era (I think by Darwin and the other scientists who worked around our discovery of evolution. For most of humanity's co-evolution with dogs, I imagine humans were probably breeding dogs -intuitively- rather than -artificially-.
The breeding wasn't intentional or intended, but, if they found a dog they really liked or loved, they'd look after that dog and it would have a better chance at passing on genes to the next generation.
The word -artificial- seems quite cold to me. Artificial now seems to mean -fake, not real, unnatural, manipulated-. In the Victorian era it sort of meant something more like -created-. It still does when used in words like artifice, or art.
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I find the term -artificial selection- a bit strange, at least in our current era. It was defined during the Victorian era (I think by Darwin and the other scientists who worked around our discovery of evolution. For most of humanity's co-evolution with dogs, I imagine humans were probably breeding dogs -intuitively- rather than -artificially-.
The breeding wasn't intentional or intended, but, if they found a dog they really liked or loved, they'd look after that dog and it would have a better chance at passing on genes to the next generation.
The word -artificial- seems quite cold to me. Artificial now seems to mean -fake, not real, unnatural, manipulated-. In the Victorian era it sort of meant something more like -created-. It still does when used in words like artifice, or art.
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Mammal
I think John Pilley and Chaser paved the way to prove dogs can differentiate two identical words with two different meanings depending on context, which kinda points to dogs understanding grammar.
Stella and Bunny combine different words to come up with some pretty wild abstract concepts. I remember Stella said -help water outside- when the -beach- button went kaput - meaning she knows the meaning of every word she uses, and came up with a way to express the idea she wanted with the words that were available to her.
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I think John Pilley and Chaser paved the way to prove dogs can differentiate two identical words with two different meanings depending on context, which kinda points to dogs understanding grammar.
Stella and Bunny combine different words to come up with some pretty wild abstract concepts. I remember Stella said -help water outside- when the -beach- button went kaput - meaning she knows the meaning of every word she uses, and came up with a way to express the idea she wanted with the words that were available to her.
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Dead
_Artificial selection_ may not be quite the right term. Almost certainly, dogs first came to humans because they wanted to scavenge the garbage. A human who saw puppy dog eyes might be less inclined to drive a scavenger away, and that dog would be less at risk of starvation. Similarly, the first domestication of plants was probably simply because gatherers took what they liked and threw the seeds in the garbage, where they grew. That is not really artifice.
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_Artificial selection_ may not be quite the right term. Almost certainly, dogs first came to humans because they wanted to scavenge the garbage. A human who saw puppy dog eyes might be less inclined to drive a scavenger away, and that dog would be less at risk of starvation. Similarly, the first domestication of plants was probably simply because gatherers took what they liked and threw the seeds in the garbage, where they grew. That is not really artifice.
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Katia
My dogs have 6 barks and they're distinct
1. Bathroom bark
2. Get me out of here bark (for when they're put in a seperate room)
3. There is people or other dogs outside
4. Let me in the house I'm done going potty.
5. Youre late with dinner again
6. Youre late going to bed again
And i know what each bark means because its very distinct. My rescue dogs teach eachother how to interact with us.
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My dogs have 6 barks and they're distinct
1. Bathroom bark
2. Get me out of here bark (for when they're put in a seperate room)
3. There is people or other dogs outside
4. Let me in the house I'm done going potty.
5. Youre late with dinner again
6. Youre late going to bed again
And i know what each bark means because its very distinct. My rescue dogs teach eachother how to interact with us.
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Sean
I have 2 dogs --- 1 understands pointing freakishly good --- the other cannot seem to get it. But the dog that seems to not understand pointing, also knows how to trick/strategize against my other dog in order to get a bone or treat he wants for himself. Point being, sometimes I think that particular dog is a dummy, while other times I feel like he'd be accepted into an Ivy League school
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I have 2 dogs --- 1 understands pointing freakishly good --- the other cannot seem to get it. But the dog that seems to not understand pointing, also knows how to trick/strategize against my other dog in order to get a bone or treat he wants for himself. Point being, sometimes I think that particular dog is a dummy, while other times I feel like he'd be accepted into an Ivy League school
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Alpaca
I think dogs are at the point where we ware 5-6 milion years ago, screaming and grauling at eachother but we eventualy evolved and here we are, i'm fearly sure that we are helping dogs and other animals by interacting with them, chalenging them to evolve faster and i think a future where we are able to comunicate with other animals ia not that unlikely.
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I think dogs are at the point where we ware 5-6 milion years ago, screaming and grauling at eachother but we eventualy evolved and here we are, i'm fearly sure that we are helping dogs and other animals by interacting with them, chalenging them to evolve faster and i think a future where we are able to comunicate with other animals ia not that unlikely.
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oceanexploration
Speaking as someone who has done selective genetic research and breeding of animals for years, domestication and selective breeding is NOT evolution. Do not confuse the terms or processes. We humans domesticated dogs in the same way as cattle, sheep, and others. People confuse creation and domestication. There is one Creator.
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Speaking as someone who has done selective genetic research and breeding of animals for years, domestication and selective breeding is NOT evolution. Do not confuse the terms or processes. We humans domesticated dogs in the same way as cattle, sheep, and others. People confuse creation and domestication. There is one Creator.
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Icefirewolf
There's a person online that has her cat/going to be cats, use buttons to communicate and if say the cat press dirty or mouse
They give the cat a mouse or find something that's dirty in the house
And clean it up for them -
Or they press ice, and they get ice
You can research that, to learn more
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There's a person online that has her cat/going to be cats, use buttons to communicate and if say the cat press dirty or mouse
They give the cat a mouse or find something that's dirty in the house
And clean it up for them -
Or they press ice, and they get ice
You can research that, to learn more
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sailaab
It turned pretty demotivational towards the end.
For someone with a brain smaller than a tennis ball
. Them understanding 1000s of words in various human made languages.
. versus we not picking up on even a dozen sounds/ barks of theirs.
Dogs: 1
Humans: 0
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It turned pretty demotivational towards the end.
For someone with a brain smaller than a tennis ball
. Them understanding 1000s of words in various human made languages.
. versus we not picking up on even a dozen sounds/ barks of theirs.
Dogs: 1
Humans: 0
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Des
Weird. Wolf Biologist say wolves also communicate with facial cues. Wolves with a full, facial mask and eyebrow spots can Express facial cues more readily than wolves without a facial mask.
They can show expressive eyes, but perhaps not as often as dogs.
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Weird. Wolf Biologist say wolves also communicate with facial cues. Wolves with a full, facial mask and eyebrow spots can Express facial cues more readily than wolves without a facial mask.
They can show expressive eyes, but perhaps not as often as dogs.
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