Why Spain Still Controls Cities Hidden in Africa
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Date: 2026-03-07
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carlosbc1084
Is seems that a little class of history is needed here, because you're not going to get it from the video.
Gibraltar was an Spanish territory, part of the Kingdom of Spain, when it was conquered by the British. The Kingdom of Spain is the same entity today as it was then.
Ceuta was founded before Christ; after different overlords, in the VIII century, switched allegiance to the Umayyad Caliphate (a muslim, Arab lead empire, which by the time was occupying the region today we know as Morocco. For the next centuries it was conquered by the Almoravids, then the Almohads, then the Hafsids, and so on. is important to notice, if you haven't figured out yet, that never in this story Morocco, nor a Moroccan state existed; just a collection of berber tribes unified by religious leaders. Some time after the Portuguese, and finally the Spanish, got control of the city. It wasn't until de XVIII century when something resembling a state of Morocco began to form, when the tribes in the region were being unified under one leadership.
TL; DR: Never in their history, Ceuta nor Melilla had been part of Morocco in any of its forms since the first inception of a Moroccan state in the late XVII century. Morocco claiming them as their own cities has nothing to do with the Spanish claim over Gibraltar because, again, Morocco never owned that land.
The only hypocrisy here is Morocco claiming and occupying the Western Sahara, which as Ceuta and Melilla, has never been part of their territory.
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Is seems that a little class of history is needed here, because you're not going to get it from the video.
Gibraltar was an Spanish territory, part of the Kingdom of Spain, when it was conquered by the British. The Kingdom of Spain is the same entity today as it was then.
Ceuta was founded before Christ; after different overlords, in the VIII century, switched allegiance to the Umayyad Caliphate (a muslim, Arab lead empire, which by the time was occupying the region today we know as Morocco. For the next centuries it was conquered by the Almoravids, then the Almohads, then the Hafsids, and so on. is important to notice, if you haven't figured out yet, that never in this story Morocco, nor a Moroccan state existed; just a collection of berber tribes unified by religious leaders. Some time after the Portuguese, and finally the Spanish, got control of the city. It wasn't until de XVIII century when something resembling a state of Morocco began to form, when the tribes in the region were being unified under one leadership.
TL; DR: Never in their history, Ceuta nor Melilla had been part of Morocco in any of its forms since the first inception of a Moroccan state in the late XVII century. Morocco claiming them as their own cities has nothing to do with the Spanish claim over Gibraltar because, again, Morocco never owned that land.
The only hypocrisy here is Morocco claiming and occupying the Western Sahara, which as Ceuta and Melilla, has never been part of their territory.
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alexanderglass906
I’m sorry, but is protecting your small city against migrants that aren’t even from the neighbouring country considered brutal or bad I mean, yeah I didn’t see the beatings per se, but these people are literally coming with power machinery, which could be used as a weapon, but was used to break in and storming into your country or at least into your city and I’m gonna jump out on a limb and assume that they’re probably really desperate and could easily lead to harming the residence of your country. I love your videos, bro, but I feel like it’s a little bit left leaning of you position the reception that the Spanish forces had against the Sudanese and other refugee individuals as anything but a fair and normal response I mean we’re talking about hundreds of what could be criminals what could be terror members could be anyone like to say oh yeah let’s just hope and pray that they’re good people like the world is full of bad people, regardless of religion and race and they’re committing a crime by storming into and destroying property.
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I’m sorry, but is protecting your small city against migrants that aren’t even from the neighbouring country considered brutal or bad I mean, yeah I didn’t see the beatings per se, but these people are literally coming with power machinery, which could be used as a weapon, but was used to break in and storming into your country or at least into your city and I’m gonna jump out on a limb and assume that they’re probably really desperate and could easily lead to harming the residence of your country. I love your videos, bro, but I feel like it’s a little bit left leaning of you position the reception that the Spanish forces had against the Sudanese and other refugee individuals as anything but a fair and normal response I mean we’re talking about hundreds of what could be criminals what could be terror members could be anyone like to say oh yeah let’s just hope and pray that they’re good people like the world is full of bad people, regardless of religion and race and they’re committing a crime by storming into and destroying property.
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DanCarter96
nah gibraltar is nowhere near the same case as ceuta and melilla. Mainland UK is thousands of km away and there is no legitimate reason for them to own land on the other side of the continent, whereas spain owning land just 14km away is quite a lot more legitimate than, for example, even the canary islands in the atlantic or the balearic islands in the mediterranean. Sorry morocco but you arrived later, the cities aren’t culturally moroccan and you have no claim really. Would you tell turkey to give up istanbul and the surrounding territory on the european side of the straight of the bosphorus just because its on the other side of a narrow body of water anyway that’s my view, regardless of the colonial history of both countries which is another matter and comes much later
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nah gibraltar is nowhere near the same case as ceuta and melilla. Mainland UK is thousands of km away and there is no legitimate reason for them to own land on the other side of the continent, whereas spain owning land just 14km away is quite a lot more legitimate than, for example, even the canary islands in the atlantic or the balearic islands in the mediterranean. Sorry morocco but you arrived later, the cities aren’t culturally moroccan and you have no claim really. Would you tell turkey to give up istanbul and the surrounding territory on the european side of the straight of the bosphorus just because its on the other side of a narrow body of water anyway that’s my view, regardless of the colonial history of both countries which is another matter and comes much later
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markcopland3641
So, what about Isreal, so you seem to agree Gibraltar, and the 2 territories in Morocco are ok, but then in Biblical sense, Israel was taken the by Muslims and enslaved in Egypt, they reclaimed there land once they were freed, only difference, Jews were happy to share, but the other side said no, so the on going war continues, also I notice during the Arab take over of parts of Spain way back, but was pushed out, but what use to be, Constantinople, is still controlled by Turkish people, noticed you didn't mentioned that, if you say, that's not part of the Morocco story, why mentioned Isreal, but leave out old Constantinople, I smell a little anti Semitic add in to your narration.
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So, what about Isreal, so you seem to agree Gibraltar, and the 2 territories in Morocco are ok, but then in Biblical sense, Israel was taken the by Muslims and enslaved in Egypt, they reclaimed there land once they were freed, only difference, Jews were happy to share, but the other side said no, so the on going war continues, also I notice during the Arab take over of parts of Spain way back, but was pushed out, but what use to be, Constantinople, is still controlled by Turkish people, noticed you didn't mentioned that, if you say, that's not part of the Morocco story, why mentioned Isreal, but leave out old Constantinople, I smell a little anti Semitic add in to your narration.
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reallifelore
The modern Spanish cities in Africa were founded by the Romans. Ceuta into Hispania province and Melilla was abandoned and later refounded by the Caliphate of Cordoba. So it can be said both have always been part of an Iberian political entity, in fact Roman Hispania, Visigothic Hispania, the Caliphate of Cordoba (Al-Andalus) and Emirate of Granada and later the Kingdom of Portugal controled Sebta/Ceuta for at least 200-300 years each before Spain (former Kingdom of Castile, now Kingdom of Spain, who has controled it for the last 400-500 years. Honorable mentions to the Byzantines and Marinids for taking them and losing them within a generation each.
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The modern Spanish cities in Africa were founded by the Romans. Ceuta into Hispania province and Melilla was abandoned and later refounded by the Caliphate of Cordoba. So it can be said both have always been part of an Iberian political entity, in fact Roman Hispania, Visigothic Hispania, the Caliphate of Cordoba (Al-Andalus) and Emirate of Granada and later the Kingdom of Portugal controled Sebta/Ceuta for at least 200-300 years each before Spain (former Kingdom of Castile, now Kingdom of Spain, who has controled it for the last 400-500 years. Honorable mentions to the Byzantines and Marinids for taking them and losing them within a generation each.
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SOGTULAKlamares
Your research misses a crucial point: from end of 2020 through 2021, as a result of Spain accepting Brahim Ghali for medical attention and in the middle of the migration crisis, Morocco succeeded at infecting Pedro Sanchez cell phone with Pegasus software, reason for which it is believed he was right after so swift at accepting Morocco's autonomy plan for Western Sahara. Allegedly, Sanchez sent the recognition letter to Morocco without even consulting with foreign minister Albares.
No one to this say knows what can have Morocco found or listened on Sanchez's phone that gave them that kind of leverage.
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Your research misses a crucial point: from end of 2020 through 2021, as a result of Spain accepting Brahim Ghali for medical attention and in the middle of the migration crisis, Morocco succeeded at infecting Pedro Sanchez cell phone with Pegasus software, reason for which it is believed he was right after so swift at accepting Morocco's autonomy plan for Western Sahara. Allegedly, Sanchez sent the recognition letter to Morocco without even consulting with foreign minister Albares.
No one to this say knows what can have Morocco found or listened on Sanchez's phone that gave them that kind of leverage.
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Willy. Correia
I don't like people calling them victims of this illegal invasion. The majority of this migrants are not coming in good faith.
Everyone wants rights, but no one wants responsibilities. They are seeking a better life, but are taking shortcuts and not following the laws and the rules. They are not good people; if they were, they would follow the system. They might say we are lucky that we were born here, but we have rules to follow, laws to abide by, and taxes (a lot) to pay. They just think this is paradise and don't even need to work. Wake up and stop calling them victims.
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I don't like people calling them victims of this illegal invasion. The majority of this migrants are not coming in good faith.
Everyone wants rights, but no one wants responsibilities. They are seeking a better life, but are taking shortcuts and not following the laws and the rules. They are not good people; if they were, they would follow the system. They might say we are lucky that we were born here, but we have rules to follow, laws to abide by, and taxes (a lot) to pay. They just think this is paradise and don't even need to work. Wake up and stop calling them victims.
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SiVlog1989
Lindsay Hoyle, the current Speaker of the House of Commons in the UK, said when he was chairman of an all party Gibraltar group in Westminster in 2002, the contradiction for Spain's positions for both Ceuta and Melilla and their own claim to Gibraltar:
What I say to Spain is, and people ask them, 'when are you going to give up Ceuta and Melilla' they say 'never'. When we ask 'why not' they say 'because they're part of Metropolitan Spain'. Well, let's declare Gibraltar part of Metropolitan Britain.
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Lindsay Hoyle, the current Speaker of the House of Commons in the UK, said when he was chairman of an all party Gibraltar group in Westminster in 2002, the contradiction for Spain's positions for both Ceuta and Melilla and their own claim to Gibraltar:
What I say to Spain is, and people ask them, 'when are you going to give up Ceuta and Melilla' they say 'never'. When we ask 'why not' they say 'because they're part of Metropolitan Spain'. Well, let's declare Gibraltar part of Metropolitan Britain.
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reallifelore
it seems like no one wants to be in morroco. the solution is real easy, and it's a deontological one; kicking people off the land they reside in is bad. stop doing that. doesnt matter if the ancestors of the people living somewhere did that to the people that lived their in the past. that's the past, you can't fix it, and everyone is born innocent. what do the people who actually reside on a piece of land say that they want done with it that's the opinion that matters.
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it seems like no one wants to be in morroco. the solution is real easy, and it's a deontological one; kicking people off the land they reside in is bad. stop doing that. doesnt matter if the ancestors of the people living somewhere did that to the people that lived their in the past. that's the past, you can't fix it, and everyone is born innocent. what do the people who actually reside on a piece of land say that they want done with it that's the opinion that matters.
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AvaEvaThornton
Small correction, The most southerly lands that the United Kingdom claims as an _integral_ part of its territory are the Isles of Scilly, just a short boat ride from the mainland of Cornwall. Gibraltar, the British Antarctic Territory, Akrotiri and Dhekelia, and numerous small islands outside of the northeastern Atlantic are considered by London to be the British Oversees Territories, which are under the sovereignty of, but not part of, the United Kingdom.
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Small correction, The most southerly lands that the United Kingdom claims as an _integral_ part of its territory are the Isles of Scilly, just a short boat ride from the mainland of Cornwall. Gibraltar, the British Antarctic Territory, Akrotiri and Dhekelia, and numerous small islands outside of the northeastern Atlantic are considered by London to be the British Oversees Territories, which are under the sovereignty of, but not part of, the United Kingdom.
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reallifelore
The Moroccans are preventing the Western Saharans from home rule and you said nothing about their hypocrisy. Meanwhile, Spain occupies the Moroccans launching point that led to a 1, 000 year occupation by Muslims of Christian Europe. That's no comparison to Gibraltar, which was conquered by an imperialist Britain. You're comparing apples and oranges, arguing against a strawman from your Anti-Christian position.
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The Moroccans are preventing the Western Saharans from home rule and you said nothing about their hypocrisy. Meanwhile, Spain occupies the Moroccans launching point that led to a 1, 000 year occupation by Muslims of Christian Europe. That's no comparison to Gibraltar, which was conquered by an imperialist Britain. You're comparing apples and oranges, arguing against a strawman from your Anti-Christian position.
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alejandroojeda1572
9: 27 nah Spain argues the legal basis of the treaty. Most crucially wether the British actually had the right to claim land from the sea in Gibraltar, which is apparently not clear in the treaty. Of course the British didn't care and they've nearly doubled the territory of Gibraltar.
Tbh in Spain none but the far right actually want Gibraltar back and that the issue I still stands is a bit bizarre.
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9: 27 nah Spain argues the legal basis of the treaty. Most crucially wether the British actually had the right to claim land from the sea in Gibraltar, which is apparently not clear in the treaty. Of course the British didn't care and they've nearly doubled the territory of Gibraltar.
Tbh in Spain none but the far right actually want Gibraltar back and that the issue I still stands is a bit bizarre.
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JesusGarciaBarcala
The situation between Spain and the UK regarding Gibraltar, in no way is the same as the one between Spain and Morocco over Ceuta and Melilla. The UK took Gibraltar from Spain. Gibraltar is still Spanish, although controlled by the UK. On the other hand, Spain founded Ceuta and Melilla centuries before Morocco existed. Spain did not take them. They just simply didn't exist before, neither Morocco.
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The situation between Spain and the UK regarding Gibraltar, in no way is the same as the one between Spain and Morocco over Ceuta and Melilla. The UK took Gibraltar from Spain. Gibraltar is still Spanish, although controlled by the UK. On the other hand, Spain founded Ceuta and Melilla centuries before Morocco existed. Spain did not take them. They just simply didn't exist before, neither Morocco.
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11pupona
09: 30 there are not the same arguments. Spain existed well before Gibraltar was gifted to the UK, and Spain is a modern democracy. Morroco is a dictatorship and did not exist when Ceuta and Melilla were already Spanish.
There are other problems like the territory illegally controlled by the UK after an epidemic, and the waters that were explicitly excluded in the treaty of Utretch
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09: 30 there are not the same arguments. Spain existed well before Gibraltar was gifted to the UK, and Spain is a modern democracy. Morroco is a dictatorship and did not exist when Ceuta and Melilla were already Spanish.
There are other problems like the territory illegally controlled by the UK after an epidemic, and the waters that were explicitly excluded in the treaty of Utretch
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lorton190
tbh spain should just say no, close the boarder and live fire on anyone attempting to enter. if i have enough people to support me thats how id do it. take a 30 mile area near a coast, build a double wall, then build it in a way i know is best. not a single illegal will be allowed into this nation i will create. because that just means you have zero respect for us and what we built
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tbh spain should just say no, close the boarder and live fire on anyone attempting to enter. if i have enough people to support me thats how id do it. take a 30 mile area near a coast, build a double wall, then build it in a way i know is best. not a single illegal will be allowed into this nation i will create. because that just means you have zero respect for us and what we built
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SHO1989
Tucking this video into my back pocket to pull out the next time a liberal talks trash about Trump's Mexican border wall. It seems even the Europeans like to protect their borders.
There's nothing wrong with immigrants, as long as they completed a legal and documented entry. Everyone else needs to stay behind the wall.
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Tucking this video into my back pocket to pull out the next time a liberal talks trash about Trump's Mexican border wall. It seems even the Europeans like to protect their borders.
There's nothing wrong with immigrants, as long as they completed a legal and documented entry. Everyone else needs to stay behind the wall.
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superalvaromoreno
Even discussing this feels like you have being paid by Morocco. Spain has full sovereignty over this two cities because they have never been moroccan and never will. We are tired and we are gonna backfire if you insist in twisting our hands. And is not gonna be beautiful to watch.
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Even discussing this feels like you have being paid by Morocco. Spain has full sovereignty over this two cities because they have never been moroccan and never will. We are tired and we are gonna backfire if you insist in twisting our hands. And is not gonna be beautiful to watch.
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sonny19931
Both things can be true at the same time, there are historical reasons for Spain to own these cities, but also they would do better to cede these poor and remote regions who only cause them to have constant tension with their neighbors. I feel the same about Gibraltar or the Falklands
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Both things can be true at the same time, there are historical reasons for Spain to own these cities, but also they would do better to cede these poor and remote regions who only cause them to have constant tension with their neighbors. I feel the same about Gibraltar or the Falklands
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sgrant9814
While understanding the desperation of the refugees, a nation has a right to protect its borders by any means necessary. Morocco's allowing illegals to entere morocco unopposed contributes to this problem so morroco is also complicit.
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While understanding the desperation of the refugees, a nation has a right to protect its borders by any means necessary. Morocco's allowing illegals to entere morocco unopposed contributes to this problem so morroco is also complicit.
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micupedro
Spain is now a civilized European country that no longer beheads Moors as was the tradition in the past. We can guarantee Morocco that we will not cut off any more heads nor invoke Saint James the Moor-slayer if they leave us in peace.
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Spain is now a civilized European country that no longer beheads Moors as was the tradition in the past. We can guarantee Morocco that we will not cut off any more heads nor invoke Saint James the Moor-slayer if they leave us in peace.
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