The Worst Border Gore on Earth
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Date: 2025-12-23
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whith-n7n
I think all this means is that in these places, like in afghanistan, national borders are irrelevant because they are being ignored. Tribal communities are the borders. They have no national identity. Prime candidates for economic colonial system. Since there is no national identity in a economic colonial system, there is no need to separate regions by borders. Free trade by default within. Hyperlocal migration with rules determined by who is allowed to buy or rent real estate. Common/aligned rules would be the new definition of borders: areas with a shared set of migration rules.
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I think all this means is that in these places, like in afghanistan, national borders are irrelevant because they are being ignored. Tribal communities are the borders. They have no national identity. Prime candidates for economic colonial system. Since there is no national identity in a economic colonial system, there is no need to separate regions by borders. Free trade by default within. Hyperlocal migration with rules determined by who is allowed to buy or rent real estate. Common/aligned rules would be the new definition of borders: areas with a shared set of migration rules.
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Voxdalian
I was expecting this video to be a catalogue of various examples. The prime example of Border Gore in my opinion is between Belgium and the Netherlands, in the city of Baarle-Nassau.
India and Bangladesh have some going on on the left bank of the Teesta. And India, Pakistan, and China are also a mess in Kashmir.
Israel and Palestine, particularly in and around Jerusalem, also have some terrible border gore.
Ex-Yugoslavia is another good example of border gore, a little all around, but it's for sure less than in the other examples.
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I was expecting this video to be a catalogue of various examples. The prime example of Border Gore in my opinion is between Belgium and the Netherlands, in the city of Baarle-Nassau.
India and Bangladesh have some going on on the left bank of the Teesta. And India, Pakistan, and China are also a mess in Kashmir.
Israel and Palestine, particularly in and around Jerusalem, also have some terrible border gore.
Ex-Yugoslavia is another good example of border gore, a little all around, but it's for sure less than in the other examples.
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Random66860
During the Soviet era, these borders were merely administrative lines, much like the borders between US states.
People, livestock, and water moved freely across them. It didn't matter if your pasture was in the Kyrgyz SSR and your home was in the Uzbek SSR
When the Soviet Union collapsed, these invisible lines suddenly became international hard borders with checkpoints, visas, and landmines. Overnight, thousands of people found themselves living in islands surrounded by a foreign, and sometimes hostile, country
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During the Soviet era, these borders were merely administrative lines, much like the borders between US states.
People, livestock, and water moved freely across them. It didn't matter if your pasture was in the Kyrgyz SSR and your home was in the Uzbek SSR
When the Soviet Union collapsed, these invisible lines suddenly became international hard borders with checkpoints, visas, and landmines. Overnight, thousands of people found themselves living in islands surrounded by a foreign, and sometimes hostile, country
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tajtajdar7773
Tajiks of Central Asia, unite, fight for your right to unification, liberate the Tajiks in Afghanistan and Uzbekistan. We are in our own lands and have the right to unite and live in a single country. Glory to the free peoples from the oppression and injustice of those who divided our nation. People, arise, cast off the chains and shackles of your enemies and their burdens. Humiliate them, curse the path they have chosen. Tajiks, freedom is promised by Yazdan. And so it shall be.
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Tajiks of Central Asia, unite, fight for your right to unification, liberate the Tajiks in Afghanistan and Uzbekistan. We are in our own lands and have the right to unite and live in a single country. Glory to the free peoples from the oppression and injustice of those who divided our nation. People, arise, cast off the chains and shackles of your enemies and their burdens. Humiliate them, curse the path they have chosen. Tajiks, freedom is promised by Yazdan. And so it shall be.
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VivaChandles
The map used at 13: 05 is misleading in the context of what is being said. Sam goes from talking about how difficult census documentation was in the 1920s and then a map is shown with data from 1991. There is no connection here. Data that is 60 years newer has no bearing in the context of the past.
Another issue with the map in this context, the linguistic borders look suspiciously like the modern countries so it’s almost suggesting Stain did a good job.
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The map used at 13: 05 is misleading in the context of what is being said. Sam goes from talking about how difficult census documentation was in the 1920s and then a map is shown with data from 1991. There is no connection here. Data that is 60 years newer has no bearing in the context of the past.
Another issue with the map in this context, the linguistic borders look suspiciously like the modern countries so it’s almost suggesting Stain did a good job.
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52flyingbicycles
It’s like the least bad version of the border gore from the scramble for Africa. They did try to put cultural communities together, tried to make sure they’d be economically viable, included locals in the decision making process, and even had open borders between them. Unfortunately, the entire process was a bad idea to begin with. They were trying to force a square peg into a round hole.
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It’s like the least bad version of the border gore from the scramble for Africa. They did try to put cultural communities together, tried to make sure they’d be economically viable, included locals in the decision making process, and even had open borders between them. Unfortunately, the entire process was a bad idea to begin with. They were trying to force a square peg into a round hole.
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tnosiraliyev
I'm Uzbek. The Soviets hatched a genius plan that divided us so well. Historically, we were living together without ethnic problems, and many were bilingual in this region. There were 3 Uzbek dominant states, but we didn't call each other Uzbek or Tajik at the time. BTW, to people curious, -stan is like -land in English, just like Finland or Poland.
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I'm Uzbek. The Soviets hatched a genius plan that divided us so well. Historically, we were living together without ethnic problems, and many were bilingual in this region. There were 3 Uzbek dominant states, but we didn't call each other Uzbek or Tajik at the time. BTW, to people curious, -stan is like -land in English, just like Finland or Poland.
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Billybobble1
I guess I always knew, but modern borders are a direct result of measuring micropenis. Though I joke, I'm actually having a profound revelation that we have managed to get as far as we have. It's just a matter of time. Meanwhile most of us, respect women, and just want a quiet life, itself, somewhat a contradiction. In summary, we're all screwed.
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I guess I always knew, but modern borders are a direct result of measuring micropenis. Though I joke, I'm actually having a profound revelation that we have managed to get as far as we have. It's just a matter of time. Meanwhile most of us, respect women, and just want a quiet life, itself, somewhat a contradiction. In summary, we're all screwed.
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hazchemel
The border between India and Bangladesh included hundreds of exclaves either side. Among them were many double and even some triple or third order enclaves/exclaves. Apparently, after discussion, many of these were recently dissolved by mutual agreement, but I've heard no details.
Would you be interested in this topic
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The border between India and Bangladesh included hundreds of exclaves either side. Among them were many double and even some triple or third order enclaves/exclaves. Apparently, after discussion, many of these were recently dissolved by mutual agreement, but I've heard no details.
Would you be interested in this topic
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douglasboyle6544
These countries figured something out in the past 5 years or so: If we want to play a role on the big stage, we need to settle our differences amongst ourselves. They are now being inundated with outside investment to exploit their resources and if they play their cards right it could be very good for all of them.
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These countries figured something out in the past 5 years or so: If we want to play a role on the big stage, we need to settle our differences amongst ourselves. They are now being inundated with outside investment to exploit their resources and if they play their cards right it could be very good for all of them.
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Xalantor
Reality is that these tribal, ethnic, religious and national tensions will need to be resolved through war, just like every other time in history. Europe once also consisted of tribes who hated each other and through hundreds of years of war a dominant culture emerged that unified the surrounding ones.
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Reality is that these tribal, ethnic, religious and national tensions will need to be resolved through war, just like every other time in history. Europe once also consisted of tribes who hated each other and through hundreds of years of war a dominant culture emerged that unified the surrounding ones.
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_KnuXles
The many borders of Armenia and Azerbaijan are just as disgusting to me. But on a regional level the worst one I've found is India's Pondicherry territory's border with the Tamil Nadu region. I know it's based off of the old French land ownership but it basically looks like a QR code
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The many borders of Armenia and Azerbaijan are just as disgusting to me. But on a regional level the worst one I've found is India's Pondicherry territory's border with the Tamil Nadu region. I know it's based off of the old French land ownership but it basically looks like a QR code
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danielbrown6112
At some point we will have to start thinking the poorly drawn borders across the world that lead to conflict are doing exactly what their intention was in the first place.
A world with less conflicts is a world with less money to those who benefit from conflicts.
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At some point we will have to start thinking the poorly drawn borders across the world that lead to conflict are doing exactly what their intention was in the first place.
A world with less conflicts is a world with less money to those who benefit from conflicts.
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ricequackers
I reckon the reason the borders were eventually resolved peacefully is because none of them are massively more powerful than the other, but more importantly because the people are all ultimately very similar to each other as explained in the introduction.
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I reckon the reason the borders were eventually resolved peacefully is because none of them are massively more powerful than the other, but more importantly because the people are all ultimately very similar to each other as explained in the introduction.
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heraldtim
So, it sounds like the Soviets took border-drawing advice from the British Empire. and we all know that the British Empire is why we can't have nice things. But thanks for an interesting and educational video! :)
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So, it sounds like the Soviets took border-drawing advice from the British Empire. and we all know that the British Empire is why we can't have nice things. But thanks for an interesting and educational video! :)
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ChaseddiHondo
The British are bad at drawing borders because they made them with straight rulers
The Soviets though, drew their borders with a lot of vodka and willpower, creating abstract pieces of art on the process
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The British are bad at drawing borders because they made them with straight rulers
The Soviets though, drew their borders with a lot of vodka and willpower, creating abstract pieces of art on the process
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belgiumrules8735
I would not call this an example of peaceful border settling, thousands have died over this issue. You also failed to mention the Andijan massacre from 2005 and its 1500 casualties, hardly exemplary.
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I would not call this an example of peaceful border settling, thousands have died over this issue. You also failed to mention the Andijan massacre from 2005 and its 1500 casualties, hardly exemplary.
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ThomasBloxia-i6m
I will solve it, Kyrgyzstan will annex the exclaves of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan inside its territory and Uzbekistan will annex the exclaves of Tajikistan inside its territory. Good solution, right
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I will solve it, Kyrgyzstan will annex the exclaves of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan inside its territory and Uzbekistan will annex the exclaves of Tajikistan inside its territory. Good solution, right
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keithheaven176
Thank you for bringing this much neglected subject to attention. Intelligent summary of a very confusing question. Thank goodness it appears that sense and deliberate negotiations have prevailed.
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Thank you for bringing this much neglected subject to attention. Intelligent summary of a very confusing question. Thank goodness it appears that sense and deliberate negotiations have prevailed.
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SynthoidSounds
Classic example of a tribal region of various diverse peoples who never existed as a country until occupied by an external colonizer who foisted an artficially defined nationstate upon them.
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Classic example of a tribal region of various diverse peoples who never existed as a country until occupied by an external colonizer who foisted an artficially defined nationstate upon them.
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