Phonetics - Vowels: Crash Course Linguistics #9
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Date: 2022-04-04
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TiggerIsMyCat
Despite technically being spelled as diphthong, (and it being the original greek pronunciation, I have never heard anyone actually pronounce it that way until now. It's fascinating. I remember a few years ago doing a bunch of research on the pronunciation because Hank Green made a video about mistakes he discovered he was making, and one was pronouncing it as though it were dipthong, and I wanted to show it wasn't really wrong. This word is fascinating!
(And for the record, I found that phonotactically, English tends to not like having two fricatives next to each other, but it was fine in ancient greek, so a lot of words we borrowed from greek, like diphthong, have those two fricatives next to each other and we English speakers tend to turn one of the fricatives into a stop, because that's more phonotactically appropriate for English. Often do the same with words like ophthalmologist or diphtheria, which are also often pronounced as pth rather than phth)
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Despite technically being spelled as diphthong, (and it being the original greek pronunciation, I have never heard anyone actually pronounce it that way until now. It's fascinating. I remember a few years ago doing a bunch of research on the pronunciation because Hank Green made a video about mistakes he discovered he was making, and one was pronouncing it as though it were dipthong, and I wanted to show it wasn't really wrong. This word is fascinating!
(And for the record, I found that phonotactically, English tends to not like having two fricatives next to each other, but it was fine in ancient greek, so a lot of words we borrowed from greek, like diphthong, have those two fricatives next to each other and we English speakers tend to turn one of the fricatives into a stop, because that's more phonotactically appropriate for English. Often do the same with words like ophthalmologist or diphtheria, which are also often pronounced as pth rather than phth)
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Gelbadaya
As a linguistics enthusiast, I'm really enjoying this series! Learning the proper pronunciations of the IPA is something I've been aching to do and there really aren't a lot of videos out there telling how to do it in such a digestible manner. A lot of web sites give examples of words that use the sounds represented by the IPA symbols; but having met folks from the entire East Cost of the United States and multiple regions of the UK, I know about three to five various pronunciations for each example work given! Thanks for making this series, Crash Course crew!
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As a linguistics enthusiast, I'm really enjoying this series! Learning the proper pronunciations of the IPA is something I've been aching to do and there really aren't a lot of videos out there telling how to do it in such a digestible manner. A lot of web sites give examples of words that use the sounds represented by the IPA symbols; but having met folks from the entire East Cost of the United States and multiple regions of the UK, I know about three to five various pronunciations for each example work given! Thanks for making this series, Crash Course crew!
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eskualerritar
A fascinating aspect of dialectology is that whereas English varies the vowel repertoire a lot between dialects (as Taylor mentioned, keeping consonants constant, in Spanish the opposite happens, the dialectal variation depends a lot more on consonant sounds (plus intonation etc.
Understanding different dialects of English was always complicated for me because of this reason, and I presume that the opposite works in the opposite direction.
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A fascinating aspect of dialectology is that whereas English varies the vowel repertoire a lot between dialects (as Taylor mentioned, keeping consonants constant, in Spanish the opposite happens, the dialectal variation depends a lot more on consonant sounds (plus intonation etc.
Understanding different dialects of English was always complicated for me because of this reason, and I presume that the opposite works in the opposite direction.
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SotraEngine4
A nitpick
You noted /u/ as [u], although in square brackets, you need a horizontal line over the symbol u
If I'm not mistaken, the Norwegian word o is [u] and the Norwegian sound u is that u with a line across
It's correct to write it /u/ because it's kinda the way English thinks it is
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To be fair
[u] is sometimes pronounced correctly. It's just really jarring when it's not
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A nitpick
You noted /u/ as [u], although in square brackets, you need a horizontal line over the symbol u
If I'm not mistaken, the Norwegian word o is [u] and the Norwegian sound u is that u with a line across
It's correct to write it /u/ because it's kinda the way English thinks it is
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To be fair
[u] is sometimes pronounced correctly. It's just really jarring when it's not
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Tan
I learnt IPA for my speech but I didn-t learn it enough to assist me, only enough for helping me to construct sounds.
This video have taught me more and I had fun trying to create sounds!
(Unfortunately I don-t have any auditory nerve in both of my ears, that means I cannot hear so I cannot achieve 100% fluency n English speech)
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I learnt IPA for my speech but I didn-t learn it enough to assist me, only enough for helping me to construct sounds.
This video have taught me more and I had fun trying to create sounds!
(Unfortunately I don-t have any auditory nerve in both of my ears, that means I cannot hear so I cannot achieve 100% fluency n English speech)
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ArtsyJames
Nasalisation is something French learners struggle with a lot, in my experience as a French native. I hear the lack of it often when listening to English natives speaking French. It does make a difference, like in the beau/bon examples: it makes a different word and can lead to confusion when omitted.
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Nasalisation is something French learners struggle with a lot, in my experience as a French native. I hear the lack of it often when listening to English natives speaking French. It does make a difference, like in the beau/bon examples: it makes a different word and can lead to confusion when omitted.
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Nin
This playlist is being made at exactly the right time, I'm studying English and I had this topic this week in class so I just sent this video and the one on consonants to some friends who had trouble understanding it during the lecture
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This playlist is being made at exactly the right time, I'm studying English and I had this topic this week in class so I just sent this video and the one on consonants to some friends who had trouble understanding it during the lecture
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JSbeat
What would you say to musicians who say music is a language?
Im on the music education field, and there-s a whole wave of teachers insisting to teach music as a mother tongue. (I don-t agree with them)
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What would you say to musicians who say music is a language?
Im on the music education field, and there-s a whole wave of teachers insisting to teach music as a mother tongue. (I don-t agree with them)
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Arbiel
does anyone else watch crash course exclusively during meal breaks? did you end up accidentally biting the inside of your mouth a zillion times while watching these two phonetics videos too?
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does anyone else watch crash course exclusively during meal breaks? did you end up accidentally biting the inside of your mouth a zillion times while watching these two phonetics videos too?
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Tyler
THANK YOU so much for releasing these videos! These IPA videos are very useful for choral music class. I'd love to include the phonetic videos into my lessons. :)
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THANK YOU so much for releasing these videos! These IPA videos are very useful for choral music class. I'd love to include the phonetic videos into my lessons. :)
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