Fixing The Trashed Trax - Part I
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Date: 2024-10-09
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calholli
Once the bearing goes. it will not hold that nut on anymore, on the right side. I noticed my nut fell off (same wheel, right front, so I grabbed a new one at the autoparts stor3 and ordered a new bearing online, since it was cheaper. and that nut fell off again before the bearing even showed up. and I had put it on at 200 ft lbs and staked it and everything (specs only call for 181 ft lbs. I wasn't worried about it because the new bearing came with another nut-- I just wanted to throw it on there temporarily while waiting on the new one being shipped. but yeah, it came right back off. I finally got it all done today. Now I get to see how long this chnesium bearing will last. ;) . cross my fingers. (2002 Acura MDX)
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Once the bearing goes. it will not hold that nut on anymore, on the right side. I noticed my nut fell off (same wheel, right front, so I grabbed a new one at the autoparts stor3 and ordered a new bearing online, since it was cheaper. and that nut fell off again before the bearing even showed up. and I had put it on at 200 ft lbs and staked it and everything (specs only call for 181 ft lbs. I wasn't worried about it because the new bearing came with another nut-- I just wanted to throw it on there temporarily while waiting on the new one being shipped. but yeah, it came right back off. I finally got it all done today. Now I get to see how long this chnesium bearing will last. ;) . cross my fingers. (2002 Acura MDX)
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ShannonCoffey-l6b
This video again proves that a good honest repair shop is worth whatever they charge. I spent 5 years slowly gaining confidence in my local repair shop. Now I take them the hard repairs and I continue doing what I can. I've taken them 3 of my cars and my daughter's too. My shop allows and in fact encourages me to bring my own third party parts, to save money, and they suggest the best parts to buy. I will be taking my car to Ivan, 200 miles away to get real professional diagnostics and repair on an electronics problem. It will be worth the effort. Would have taken it to Eric O but he is even farther away. Sorry Eric but you don't want for work.
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This video again proves that a good honest repair shop is worth whatever they charge. I spent 5 years slowly gaining confidence in my local repair shop. Now I take them the hard repairs and I continue doing what I can. I've taken them 3 of my cars and my daughter's too. My shop allows and in fact encourages me to bring my own third party parts, to save money, and they suggest the best parts to buy. I will be taking my car to Ivan, 200 miles away to get real professional diagnostics and repair on an electronics problem. It will be worth the effort. Would have taken it to Eric O but he is even farther away. Sorry Eric but you don't want for work.
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warbirdwf
I worked in the frame and alignment business back in the 1980's. Some of the hackery I saw from different shops was mind numbing. The other common thing I saw was shops ripping people off or trying to. The shop I worked at was known to be a very honest shop. We'd have so many customers come to us after getting large repair estimates from other shops. I'd pull their car on the alignment rack and find no worn suspension parts. They only thing I found was their car needed an alignment. I also thought it was disgusting that shops/mechanics could flat steal from people. I also thought it was odd that these scum bag mechanics didn't get arrested for stealing.
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I worked in the frame and alignment business back in the 1980's. Some of the hackery I saw from different shops was mind numbing. The other common thing I saw was shops ripping people off or trying to. The shop I worked at was known to be a very honest shop. We'd have so many customers come to us after getting large repair estimates from other shops. I'd pull their car on the alignment rack and find no worn suspension parts. They only thing I found was their car needed an alignment. I also thought it was disgusting that shops/mechanics could flat steal from people. I also thought it was odd that these scum bag mechanics didn't get arrested for stealing.
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Garth2011
Seems to be a fair idea to unpeen the axel nut if you plan to remove it and simply order a new one as part of any bearing job. Threads are good when vehicles enter shops from new so why bugger up the threads and risk a CV axel (the shop should pay for. Hard to believe there is a functioing licensed and insured repair shop that does that kind of work. Just how expensive is a darn press Was the right fron bearing replaced From the sounds of it in the previous video, it was not or they damaged it pounding it in. When this kind of work is discovered, the people in the area need to know and the mechanic should be called out and put on the spot.
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Seems to be a fair idea to unpeen the axel nut if you plan to remove it and simply order a new one as part of any bearing job. Threads are good when vehicles enter shops from new so why bugger up the threads and risk a CV axel (the shop should pay for. Hard to believe there is a functioing licensed and insured repair shop that does that kind of work. Just how expensive is a darn press Was the right fron bearing replaced From the sounds of it in the previous video, it was not or they damaged it pounding it in. When this kind of work is discovered, the people in the area need to know and the mechanic should be called out and put on the spot.
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brianbanks3044
that is why you don't have oil change and tire guys do these types of repairs without supervision. we all had our problems with this type of bearing when they first came out but these types of repairs have been around since the 80s. heck, I was afraid of them when they first came out but today, there is no excuse for these types of mistakes from a reputable shop. there should have been some supervision on this job at least on the first side and then checked on the second side. too many mistakes on this job from an experienced mechanic
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that is why you don't have oil change and tire guys do these types of repairs without supervision. we all had our problems with this type of bearing when they first came out but these types of repairs have been around since the 80s. heck, I was afraid of them when they first came out but today, there is no excuse for these types of mistakes from a reputable shop. there should have been some supervision on this job at least on the first side and then checked on the second side. too many mistakes on this job from an experienced mechanic
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eric_seguin
Did room additions with my uncle for 9yrs. in the summer. He would not allow a hammer like that on his job. Said something about professional carpenters don't trash wood and real pros could drive a nail with a smooth face hammer. Funny thing is, he did most of his own mechanical work and I will vouch, he was way better than these guys. He did forget to soak his lifters once. When I told him what was going on he bought a new set(probably didn't need to) and was so embarrassed he paid me to finish the job. He was a great man.
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Did room additions with my uncle for 9yrs. in the summer. He would not allow a hammer like that on his job. Said something about professional carpenters don't trash wood and real pros could drive a nail with a smooth face hammer. Funny thing is, he did most of his own mechanical work and I will vouch, he was way better than these guys. He did forget to soak his lifters once. When I told him what was going on he bought a new set(probably didn't need to) and was so embarrassed he paid me to finish the job. He was a great man.
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georgegogis7958
It's probably a so called mechanic like my cheap friend uses that comes to his house after his day job to do some side work. Complete butcher up guy.
I have told him many times sometimes you have to open the wallet and take the car to a decent real shop that has the right tools and will do a decent job.
I do my own vehicles as i do have most tools but don't fix other peoples cars but will gladly offer free advice and diagnostics to friends since i am retired and enjoy a
challenge.
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It's probably a so called mechanic like my cheap friend uses that comes to his house after his day job to do some side work. Complete butcher up guy.
I have told him many times sometimes you have to open the wallet and take the car to a decent real shop that has the right tools and will do a decent job.
I do my own vehicles as i do have most tools but don't fix other peoples cars but will gladly offer free advice and diagnostics to friends since i am retired and enjoy a
challenge.
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ForfeMac
Sure seems to me like the previous mechanic was just swapping the hubs and not the actual bearing. And probably half drunk or stoned while doing it, judging by the missing axle nut and revised design ball joint bolt.
This kind of shit is why I trust very few people to work on any of my vehicles, because I've seen it all too many times. Sucks spending my week working on equipment and my weekends working on cars, but peace of mind is worth a weekend or two a month spent wrenching on my off time.
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Sure seems to me like the previous mechanic was just swapping the hubs and not the actual bearing. And probably half drunk or stoned while doing it, judging by the missing axle nut and revised design ball joint bolt.
This kind of shit is why I trust very few people to work on any of my vehicles, because I've seen it all too many times. Sucks spending my week working on equipment and my weekends working on cars, but peace of mind is worth a weekend or two a month spent wrenching on my off time.
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SurferJoe46
I'm not a Lab nor do I have one, but I DO have a Cat and he says: That's not a new bearing and it for sure ain't the 11th new bearing either.
At this revelation, I don't believe the customer - I think he's lying 'cause there is NO shop that doesn't know to apply at least a 1/2 impact wrench worth of torque to the axle nut.
DIY old farts who think they're working on a 1953 DeSoto may very well think they are setting axle bearing lash.
I smell a rat.
How old is this lying customer
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I'm not a Lab nor do I have one, but I DO have a Cat and he says: That's not a new bearing and it for sure ain't the 11th new bearing either.
At this revelation, I don't believe the customer - I think he's lying 'cause there is NO shop that doesn't know to apply at least a 1/2 impact wrench worth of torque to the axle nut.
DIY old farts who think they're working on a 1953 DeSoto may very well think they are setting axle bearing lash.
I smell a rat.
How old is this lying customer
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WreckDiver99
NOT a new bearing no way. Hack shop for sure. Good to hear they will have the parts and video evidence. Hope they can get their money back in small claims court. Holy wah. Looks like the shops around my area. All hacks that think they are worth $225/hour (because that's what the stealerships charger near me. Thankfully I have found two good transmission shops and a great mechanic.
Hmmm, no copyright strike I can hear Styx Blue Collar Man in the background 21 min. mark area.
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NOT a new bearing no way. Hack shop for sure. Good to hear they will have the parts and video evidence. Hope they can get their money back in small claims court. Holy wah. Looks like the shops around my area. All hacks that think they are worth $225/hour (because that's what the stealerships charger near me. Thankfully I have found two good transmission shops and a great mechanic.
Hmmm, no copyright strike I can hear Styx Blue Collar Man in the background 21 min. mark area.
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spelunkerd
As you say, there's no way this was pro work, you didn't get an accurate story. Bravo to you for fixing it right. The escalating price of Alldata notwithstanding, I'm always surprised that people are reluctant to look up specs like axle torque. They make remarks like they'd never let a shop work on their cars, not even understanding how it takes years of experience for a DIY mechanic to come even close to an average pro shop. False confidence is everywhere in the DIY world.
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As you say, there's no way this was pro work, you didn't get an accurate story. Bravo to you for fixing it right. The escalating price of Alldata notwithstanding, I'm always surprised that people are reluctant to look up specs like axle torque. They make remarks like they'd never let a shop work on their cars, not even understanding how it takes years of experience for a DIY mechanic to come even close to an average pro shop. False confidence is everywhere in the DIY world.
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ToddKing
I was told by a rep for a company that made anti-seize that you shouldn't put it on splines and to use grease instead. Anti-seize is not engineered for applications where the parts move and can cause additional wear if used. If the nut is torqued properly there probably is little, if any, movement in axle shaft splines. Maybe some if you accel harder in reverse but I've use grease just in case and haven't had any issues on vehicles I've put a second WB in years later.
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I was told by a rep for a company that made anti-seize that you shouldn't put it on splines and to use grease instead. Anti-seize is not engineered for applications where the parts move and can cause additional wear if used. If the nut is torqued properly there probably is little, if any, movement in axle shaft splines. Maybe some if you accel harder in reverse but I've use grease just in case and haven't had any issues on vehicles I've put a second WB in years later.
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artt3165
With 11 previous bearing installs I'd have figured the knuckle was done too. Perhaps the previous shop simply didn't know what they were doing.
That sort of thing makes my jaws tight, especially if the customer was charged for the repair. I spent 15-16 years doing the work then 4 years or so teaching guys how to do the work. The previous shop ( if there was one ) doesn't meet my standardds
Keep up the good work, and the videos, Eric!
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With 11 previous bearing installs I'd have figured the knuckle was done too. Perhaps the previous shop simply didn't know what they were doing.
That sort of thing makes my jaws tight, especially if the customer was charged for the repair. I spent 15-16 years doing the work then 4 years or so teaching guys how to do the work. The previous shop ( if there was one ) doesn't meet my standardds
Keep up the good work, and the videos, Eric!
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DanielClark-sb5ub
I'd encourage the car owner to take the old parts and go see the district attorney and see if the mechanic that did the work he claims can be prosecuted. Let the district attorney and police conduct a sting operation and put the mechanic out of business for fraud. I've turned in more than one mechanic and let them get busted. 10-20k in fines and jail time and loss of business license.
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I'd encourage the car owner to take the old parts and go see the district attorney and see if the mechanic that did the work he claims can be prosecuted. Let the district attorney and police conduct a sting operation and put the mechanic out of business for fraud. I've turned in more than one mechanic and let them get busted. 10-20k in fines and jail time and loss of business license.
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scrambler69-xk3kv
Mr. O sir you are awesome. I truly wish I lived near your shop you would be my go- to guy. I hate to trouble you sir, but I figure it is worth a shot. Yesterday I replaced the rear brakes on my granddaughter's 2009 Chevrolet Cobalt. New shoes, new drum. Even with the adjuster backed off all the way, the drum is a very tight fit over the shoes. Please sir can you tell me why
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Mr. O sir you are awesome. I truly wish I lived near your shop you would be my go- to guy. I hate to trouble you sir, but I figure it is worth a shot. Yesterday I replaced the rear brakes on my granddaughter's 2009 Chevrolet Cobalt. New shoes, new drum. Even with the adjuster backed off all the way, the drum is a very tight fit over the shoes. Please sir can you tell me why
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richardbaron7106
You know who done it, but you don't know why they did it. That's the mystery.
My brother's 29 year-old Maxima leaks so much oil that it hasn't had a real oil change in 4 years - he been saying for the past six years that's he's gonna replace it, but it keeps passing safety inspection (6-monthly here in NZ for pre-2000 cars, so until it fails, he's gonna keep driving it.
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You know who done it, but you don't know why they did it. That's the mystery.
My brother's 29 year-old Maxima leaks so much oil that it hasn't had a real oil change in 4 years - he been saying for the past six years that's he's gonna replace it, but it keeps passing safety inspection (6-monthly here in NZ for pre-2000 cars, so until it fails, he's gonna keep driving it.
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22video11
I sure wish I wasn't 2600 miles away from you. I could use a good mechanic. You wouldn't believe the junk mechanics we have around here. Took my Duramax to get a water pump replaced and the shop broke the radiator shroud mounts, didn't reinstall any wire harness clips back, broke the pressure tank, all the turbo connections blew off, ETC. Great video Eric, keep it up.
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I sure wish I wasn't 2600 miles away from you. I could use a good mechanic. You wouldn't believe the junk mechanics we have around here. Took my Duramax to get a water pump replaced and the shop broke the radiator shroud mounts, didn't reinstall any wire harness clips back, broke the pressure tank, all the turbo connections blew off, ETC. Great video Eric, keep it up.
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upnorth5465
Typical spend a dollar to save a nickel mentality. It really bothers me when people get taken like this. Unfortunately there is good and bad people in all trades.
I see you're on the oem train as well.
Ive had enough of getting burned by aftermarket parts that i refuse to use anything else but oem when at all possible in my shop.
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Typical spend a dollar to save a nickel mentality. It really bothers me when people get taken like this. Unfortunately there is good and bad people in all trades.
I see you're on the oem train as well.
Ive had enough of getting burned by aftermarket parts that i refuse to use anything else but oem when at all possible in my shop.
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wb6anp
I think they just replaced the hub, if that, and charged them for new bearing but never did the work, of they just tried to drive the hub in tighter to fix it. Find out of a relative of the customers is a Contractor. Those waffle faced hammers are framing hammers. Maybe they are saying a shop did it to protect a relative.
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I think they just replaced the hub, if that, and charged them for new bearing but never did the work, of they just tried to drive the hub in tighter to fix it. Find out of a relative of the customers is a Contractor. Those waffle faced hammers are framing hammers. Maybe they are saying a shop did it to protect a relative.
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calholli
Eleven is a funny number. lol. You think after one: maybe it was a fluke lemon part. after two would be a course change to OEM. After three, it's time for a mechanic change. and after the fourth wheel bearing, it's time for a vehicle change. lol. How you could ever go seven more tries is beyond me. lol.
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Eleven is a funny number. lol. You think after one: maybe it was a fluke lemon part. after two would be a course change to OEM. After three, it's time for a mechanic change. and after the fourth wheel bearing, it's time for a vehicle change. lol. How you could ever go seven more tries is beyond me. lol.
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