Is There a Safe Alternative to Zoom for Video Meetings? (That's Trustless, Private) - Rob Braxman Tech
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Date: 2022-03-20
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Brown
Hi Rob. I'm not sure whether you realise that encryption stopped being secure, back in the late 1980's, when software was developed that could decrypt anything within 15 minute on a relatively slow single core CPU Mainframe? Now consider today the processing power that is available with shared CPU Cycles stolen involtarily from vast numbers of fast Octacore Mobile Phones - like the voluntary sharing done for Projects like Einstein at Home, which has allowed analysis of Pulsar behaviour, that would normally take years of processing to be done, in just 2 weeks - that was a project for Cardiff University by the way, which analysed what was going on in a Black Widow Pulsar Ststem, about 2, 700 light years away. Personally, I think that could also be another cause of severe battery drain of devices. In addition, this is being done at the expense of customers who are encouraged to update their phones to ever more powerful devices, at great cost to the customers, and for the purchase of which, they are not getting the full benefits associated with what they are paying for, as much, or most of that capacity is stolen, plus they have the extra cost of more frequent electricity usage to keep the devices topped up. Now think of the updated power of the decryption software since the 1980's, and how quickly billions of multi cored CPU's will be able to decrypt anything. Decryption in Real Time? Yep. The Futility and Pretence associated with Google including Encryption Hardware on their Devices? Yep, who do they think they're kidding, when they're probably making use of Shared CPU processing power at the same time, themselves. It's a far from pretty picture isn't it, and with modern phones, we can't even remove the batteries to stop the data traffic, or easily change the batteries, safely prior to when they get close to the damage done after they reach the end of their service life - forcing us to buy expensive new, far more powerful devices. Best wishes, and keep up the good work. Bob.
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Hi Rob. I'm not sure whether you realise that encryption stopped being secure, back in the late 1980's, when software was developed that could decrypt anything within 15 minute on a relatively slow single core CPU Mainframe? Now consider today the processing power that is available with shared CPU Cycles stolen involtarily from vast numbers of fast Octacore Mobile Phones - like the voluntary sharing done for Projects like Einstein at Home, which has allowed analysis of Pulsar behaviour, that would normally take years of processing to be done, in just 2 weeks - that was a project for Cardiff University by the way, which analysed what was going on in a Black Widow Pulsar Ststem, about 2, 700 light years away. Personally, I think that could also be another cause of severe battery drain of devices. In addition, this is being done at the expense of customers who are encouraged to update their phones to ever more powerful devices, at great cost to the customers, and for the purchase of which, they are not getting the full benefits associated with what they are paying for, as much, or most of that capacity is stolen, plus they have the extra cost of more frequent electricity usage to keep the devices topped up. Now think of the updated power of the decryption software since the 1980's, and how quickly billions of multi cored CPU's will be able to decrypt anything. Decryption in Real Time? Yep. The Futility and Pretence associated with Google including Encryption Hardware on their Devices? Yep, who do they think they're kidding, when they're probably making use of Shared CPU processing power at the same time, themselves. It's a far from pretty picture isn't it, and with modern phones, we can't even remove the batteries to stop the data traffic, or easily change the batteries, safely prior to when they get close to the damage done after they reach the end of their service life - forcing us to buy expensive new, far more powerful devices. Best wishes, and keep up the good work. Bob.
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DeanRendar84
I always hated how zoom conference calls integrated multiple streams all being made aware of each user's voice speech patterns, tone, and facial mannerisms. Online courses before its advent were lectures and homework submission and examination, for there to be unauthorized digital archiving of a person's personal tendencies and communication style is basically allowing yourself to get identity theft fraud from people who have no credible identity of their own, or those that still have undisciplined unprofessional vindictive undesirable mindsets to sabotage someone with ambition who put in their verifiable identity, time, and work now vulnerable to fraudster mindsets. I hope the world knows that, before assuming its the easy answer to a shortcut for a hijacked lifestyle from decent people.
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I always hated how zoom conference calls integrated multiple streams all being made aware of each user's voice speech patterns, tone, and facial mannerisms. Online courses before its advent were lectures and homework submission and examination, for there to be unauthorized digital archiving of a person's personal tendencies and communication style is basically allowing yourself to get identity theft fraud from people who have no credible identity of their own, or those that still have undisciplined unprofessional vindictive undesirable mindsets to sabotage someone with ambition who put in their verifiable identity, time, and work now vulnerable to fraudster mindsets. I hope the world knows that, before assuming its the easy answer to a shortcut for a hijacked lifestyle from decent people.
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Shadow
I know enough about digital privacy to know that I don't know enough. I want to de-Google my new devices, but my parents aren't cool with me -voiding the warranty- -- at least until I can be sure enough of what I'm doing. Do you have any topics covering basic steps people with different levels of expertise can take and how much privacy they can reclaim along the way?
Levels I'd imagine:
1. Using only Google Play to manipulate installed apps
2. Using everything at one's disposal in Android short of rooting
3. Rooting to manage big-ticket packages manually
4. Personal infrastructure to eliminate trust all together
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I know enough about digital privacy to know that I don't know enough. I want to de-Google my new devices, but my parents aren't cool with me -voiding the warranty- -- at least until I can be sure enough of what I'm doing. Do you have any topics covering basic steps people with different levels of expertise can take and how much privacy they can reclaim along the way?
Levels I'd imagine:
1. Using only Google Play to manipulate installed apps
2. Using everything at one's disposal in Android short of rooting
3. Rooting to manage big-ticket packages manually
4. Personal infrastructure to eliminate trust all together
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JR
The Chinese connection with Zoom could be of concern. China is building the world-s most invasive facial recognition platforms and needs western face samples. Zoom does offer an option of encryption but that could be dismantled at the server and tapped into. About two years ago Zoom took serious heat in the Wall Street Journal for using Chinese based servers. I just won-t use Zoom for sensitive content. I also warn business people to at least switch on encryption - which might need to be switched on per call.
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The Chinese connection with Zoom could be of concern. China is building the world-s most invasive facial recognition platforms and needs western face samples. Zoom does offer an option of encryption but that could be dismantled at the server and tapped into. About two years ago Zoom took serious heat in the Wall Street Journal for using Chinese based servers. I just won-t use Zoom for sensitive content. I also warn business people to at least switch on encryption - which might need to be switched on per call.
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itech
HCL Sametime (formerly IBM Sametime) is a commercially supported meeting software that uses JITSI Meetings under the covers. YOU own the SW and deploy in your own infrastructure or cloud. Meetings are deployed as a Docker image - simple! Pricing starts at $3/u/m - not trying to do a commercial here but if I were a businss looking for a secure meeting service, Sametime is the way to go instead of Teams, GoTo, WebEx, Zoom, Google, etc.
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HCL Sametime (formerly IBM Sametime) is a commercially supported meeting software that uses JITSI Meetings under the covers. YOU own the SW and deploy in your own infrastructure or cloud. Meetings are deployed as a Docker image - simple! Pricing starts at $3/u/m - not trying to do a commercial here but if I were a businss looking for a secure meeting service, Sametime is the way to go instead of Teams, GoTo, WebEx, Zoom, Google, etc.
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Paul
Can I use jitsi with 25 or 30 people with easy to use functions like Polling, chat, screen sharing, etc, with different clients, on my Mac? Everyone knows zoom and and it's dead easy to show them how to use its functions. So now there are, what, 200 million users of Zoom? How many of the functions of Zoom would I have to sacrifice if I used Jitsi, because of the possibility that someone is peeking at my seminar on Zoom?
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Can I use jitsi with 25 or 30 people with easy to use functions like Polling, chat, screen sharing, etc, with different clients, on my Mac? Everyone knows zoom and and it's dead easy to show them how to use its functions. So now there are, what, 200 million users of Zoom? How many of the functions of Zoom would I have to sacrifice if I used Jitsi, because of the possibility that someone is peeking at my seminar on Zoom?
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Xavi
Hi Rob. This is an S. O. S, I've tried your Jitsi server but it won't work, neither from Android phone or laptop with Kubuntu. Is your server still up? I mean the 'meet. brax. live'. I'm a Catalan who happens to live in a state which is presently far worse than Turkey, i. e. Spain, and I need to protect my privacy from voracious ISPs, so using another server sounded like a good idea. maybe my own?
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Hi Rob. This is an S. O. S, I've tried your Jitsi server but it won't work, neither from Android phone or laptop with Kubuntu. Is your server still up? I mean the 'meet. brax. live'. I'm a Catalan who happens to live in a state which is presently far worse than Turkey, i. e. Spain, and I need to protect my privacy from voracious ISPs, so using another server sounded like a good idea. maybe my own?
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Pengepugeren
Thank you for introducing med to Jitsi, Rob. I have been using it exclusively for client and personal calls for a few months now, and love it.
I've thought about setting up a Jitsi server, but since one-on-one calls is P2P and thus not routed through their server, I'm not sure that's necessary.
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Thank you for introducing med to Jitsi, Rob. I have been using it exclusively for client and personal calls for a few months now, and love it.
I've thought about setting up a Jitsi server, but since one-on-one calls is P2P and thus not routed through their server, I'm not sure that's necessary.
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Wilma
What about Teams? In my work (health care) they work with this platform because they think it is safe. Or do they get their own server through a paid account?
I did Jitsi a year ago, not through the app, and it was very unstable. But maybe they have improved it?
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What about Teams? In my work (health care) they work with this platform because they think it is safe. Or do they get their own server through a paid account?
I did Jitsi a year ago, not through the app, and it was very unstable. But maybe they have improved it?
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Vicky
I searched for Jitsi in apps. where do I find it? Can I use this platform for teaching classes of 25-30 people? I've been teaching on Zoom and the students I have are not great with technology so it would need to be easy for them to click into a meeting.
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I searched for Jitsi in apps. where do I find it? Can I use this platform for teaching classes of 25-30 people? I've been teaching on Zoom and the students I have are not great with technology so it would need to be easy for them to click into a meeting.
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