A novel method for boiling eggs (and a talk about egg prices & public science)
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Date: 2025-02-15
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aragusea
I think what’s being overlooked is the obvious; the groups and people taking away research funding don’t want others to be healthier, be educated, or live longer. They want an ignorant public that can be manipulated and squeezed for every drop of work and money, be expected to reproduce, and have their kids to the same for less and with less.
The policies behind these cuts are literally the opposite of progressive. They’re the policies of organizations that prefer women not have equal rights to men, that want to outlaw abortion and hide behind religion to do it, that are terrified of anyone who isn’t white being in a position of power. The reason they tout the MAG-AGAIN is they want a return to when more white men ruled more of the resources and weren’t so very threatened by women and nonwhite individuals.
This is why education is scary to them. It’s why women in positions of authority is scary. It’s what they are killing funds that help low income families - in particular single parents - to try to force a 1960s way of life back on the populace. It’s why they are killing education funding; only their selected children should be allowed to profit and grow in their society. Specifically not the children of anyone who isn’t white and doesn’t share their beliefs.
I’m sorry to go there in what I agree is a sometimes nuanced discussion but the fact remains that nuance exists in a a larger environment of whole toxicity right now. And it’s not going to get better for a long time.
I think USA had its chance to grow and expand like a progressive society and that time has passed. I see that chance now in countries we used to look down on like China or South Korea; what good is American freedom if it means freedom for your kids to starve to death while you work 14 hour days, and can only afford sub-par education that’s been stripped by the ruling parties If it means being scared every day your kid will get shot up at school, or that you’re one lymphoma diagnosis away from total bankruptcy
I suppose those that value money and appearance and have both will thrive more than ever here. But family Equality Loving the people around you Experiencing the world, embracing what’s new and different, continuing to learn, and bettering society because it’s better for all I think those values flew the coop in 2016 and aren’t looking back. JMO.
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I think what’s being overlooked is the obvious; the groups and people taking away research funding don’t want others to be healthier, be educated, or live longer. They want an ignorant public that can be manipulated and squeezed for every drop of work and money, be expected to reproduce, and have their kids to the same for less and with less.
The policies behind these cuts are literally the opposite of progressive. They’re the policies of organizations that prefer women not have equal rights to men, that want to outlaw abortion and hide behind religion to do it, that are terrified of anyone who isn’t white being in a position of power. The reason they tout the MAG-AGAIN is they want a return to when more white men ruled more of the resources and weren’t so very threatened by women and nonwhite individuals.
This is why education is scary to them. It’s why women in positions of authority is scary. It’s what they are killing funds that help low income families - in particular single parents - to try to force a 1960s way of life back on the populace. It’s why they are killing education funding; only their selected children should be allowed to profit and grow in their society. Specifically not the children of anyone who isn’t white and doesn’t share their beliefs.
I’m sorry to go there in what I agree is a sometimes nuanced discussion but the fact remains that nuance exists in a a larger environment of whole toxicity right now. And it’s not going to get better for a long time.
I think USA had its chance to grow and expand like a progressive society and that time has passed. I see that chance now in countries we used to look down on like China or South Korea; what good is American freedom if it means freedom for your kids to starve to death while you work 14 hour days, and can only afford sub-par education that’s been stripped by the ruling parties If it means being scared every day your kid will get shot up at school, or that you’re one lymphoma diagnosis away from total bankruptcy
I suppose those that value money and appearance and have both will thrive more than ever here. But family Equality Loving the people around you Experiencing the world, embracing what’s new and different, continuing to learn, and bettering society because it’s better for all I think those values flew the coop in 2016 and aren’t looking back. JMO.
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bobjohnson2172
Adam, I didn't vote for Trump, nor did I want back as President; But do you have any idea how selfish it sounds for scientists to tell the public that the public must toil away at difficult, dangerous, and often times very physically painful jobs, in order for the public to pay the taxes funding scientists curiosity experiments I don't imagine you have any idea how much physical pain many workers endure while performing construction, sanitation, utility, landscaping, manufacturing and housekeeping work, while academics generally are toiling in comparatively comfortable working conditions. Please don't compare university science work to the daily hard labor of the great many manual labors of the world. Maybe it would be a good thing for research to be slowed a little by it receiving less funding. Adam, please consider that fair minded people could have a negative view of some governmental spending towards research. Thank you.
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Adam, I didn't vote for Trump, nor did I want back as President; But do you have any idea how selfish it sounds for scientists to tell the public that the public must toil away at difficult, dangerous, and often times very physically painful jobs, in order for the public to pay the taxes funding scientists curiosity experiments I don't imagine you have any idea how much physical pain many workers endure while performing construction, sanitation, utility, landscaping, manufacturing and housekeeping work, while academics generally are toiling in comparatively comfortable working conditions. Please don't compare university science work to the daily hard labor of the great many manual labors of the world. Maybe it would be a good thing for research to be slowed a little by it receiving less funding. Adam, please consider that fair minded people could have a negative view of some governmental spending towards research. Thank you.
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aragusea
I have a consistent way to make this kind of egg taking about 12/15 minutes. Assuming using stoves and pots that can bring water to boil in 5 minutes. You may need to adapt this for your setup.
(Note usually I cook 1-2 eggs. If more maybe the formula needs to be tweaked)
1. Eggs in & Fill the pot to 75% of the egg's height when they lay on their side naturally.
2. Bring the water to boil (my setup usually takes around 5 minutes)
3. Keep all settings the same for 7 more minutes. Totaling 12 minutes, counting the previous 5 minutes.
4. Turn off the stove and pour all hot water out of the pot.
5. Fill the pot with cold water. Pour it out. Do this one more time.
6. Fill with cold water again.
6. Wait for a few more minutes. It should be ready.
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I have a consistent way to make this kind of egg taking about 12/15 minutes. Assuming using stoves and pots that can bring water to boil in 5 minutes. You may need to adapt this for your setup.
(Note usually I cook 1-2 eggs. If more maybe the formula needs to be tweaked)
1. Eggs in & Fill the pot to 75% of the egg's height when they lay on their side naturally.
2. Bring the water to boil (my setup usually takes around 5 minutes)
3. Keep all settings the same for 7 more minutes. Totaling 12 minutes, counting the previous 5 minutes.
4. Turn off the stove and pour all hot water out of the pot.
5. Fill the pot with cold water. Pour it out. Do this one more time.
6. Fill with cold water again.
6. Wait for a few more minutes. It should be ready.
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MayankJairaj
I'm not from the U. S, so please don’t mind my perspective. Growing up, we always had this almost idealized view of America, as if everyone was a nuclear scientist or a biotech genius. Seeing people like you, I imagined most Americans were like that, or at least valued knowledge and science deeply.
But after the pandemic, the vaccine debates, and then the abortion bans, I’ve started to rethink that perception. It seems like only half the country values science and expertise the way I assumed, while the other half sees it very differently.
Do you think this divide is why some Americans resent people like you Is it really about science, or is it more about a deeper cultural and political divide
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I'm not from the U. S, so please don’t mind my perspective. Growing up, we always had this almost idealized view of America, as if everyone was a nuclear scientist or a biotech genius. Seeing people like you, I imagined most Americans were like that, or at least valued knowledge and science deeply.
But after the pandemic, the vaccine debates, and then the abortion bans, I’ve started to rethink that perception. It seems like only half the country values science and expertise the way I assumed, while the other half sees it very differently.
Do you think this divide is why some Americans resent people like you Is it really about science, or is it more about a deeper cultural and political divide
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stab244
I hate commenting but Adam is right. And a couple points I want to add. Even if the public funded research was biased, the whole point of peer reviewed science is that someone else can go over your data and point out the issues. Or someone else can run a similarly designed experiment and reach a different conclusion. Cutting off funding will likely make this problem worse as there will be less people able to do these things. This leads to me believe that the whole point of this is to make America weaker on the global stage. Whether we should have so much influence in the first place can be debated, but I feel that should be on other countries to step up their game, not for us to bow out.
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I hate commenting but Adam is right. And a couple points I want to add. Even if the public funded research was biased, the whole point of peer reviewed science is that someone else can go over your data and point out the issues. Or someone else can run a similarly designed experiment and reach a different conclusion. Cutting off funding will likely make this problem worse as there will be less people able to do these things. This leads to me believe that the whole point of this is to make America weaker on the global stage. Whether we should have so much influence in the first place can be debated, but I feel that should be on other countries to step up their game, not for us to bow out.
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jmkqfnvyl87
As the only one in my college to come into the food science dept straight from a heavy thermodynamics/physics background instead of bio or chem,
Designing these setups to test cooking methods and evaluating periodic heat transfer was my bread and butter (that bread was always made with some innovative Sac. Bayanus blend and that butter was always in its beta crystalline form )
This brings me back to those days. Looks like a cool paper.
We do need to get more precise with our grant writing though. .. That’s a component of good science. Can’t be overrunning too too much. .. That’s not what a good partner does.
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As the only one in my college to come into the food science dept straight from a heavy thermodynamics/physics background instead of bio or chem,
Designing these setups to test cooking methods and evaluating periodic heat transfer was my bread and butter (that bread was always made with some innovative Sac. Bayanus blend and that butter was always in its beta crystalline form )
This brings me back to those days. Looks like a cool paper.
We do need to get more precise with our grant writing though. .. That’s a component of good science. Can’t be overrunning too too much. .. That’s not what a good partner does.
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SuperMrgentleman
My method for gooey ramen eggs is pressure cook on high 1: 50 (manually stop it) in the pressure cooker with a steam tray and a line of water at the bottom. Place immediately in an very large ice bath (prepare the ice bath well in advance so the water is actually chilled, circulate for at least 15 minutes. You can let them sit in the ice bath for hours for easier peeling if you want. Throw the peeled eggs in 30% soy sauce 70% water for a few hours. I can do around 2 dozen eggs at a time this way (anymore and by the time you get the last eggs onto the ice bath the yolks will no longer be gooey)
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My method for gooey ramen eggs is pressure cook on high 1: 50 (manually stop it) in the pressure cooker with a steam tray and a line of water at the bottom. Place immediately in an very large ice bath (prepare the ice bath well in advance so the water is actually chilled, circulate for at least 15 minutes. You can let them sit in the ice bath for hours for easier peeling if you want. Throw the peeled eggs in 30% soy sauce 70% water for a few hours. I can do around 2 dozen eggs at a time this way (anymore and by the time you get the last eggs onto the ice bath the yolks will no longer be gooey)
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bryanchitwood6488
Let's cut to the chase--the pestilence we need to deal with is in the White House, currently occupied by the delusional idiot who caused untold pain, suffering and death during the pandemic with his bungling, imcompetence and delusions of intelligence. Despite being not very bright and not particularly well educated, soon-to-be president for life Trump thinks he knows more than scientists, medical doctors and other experts. He's a clear and present danger to democracy, the nation's economy, world peace and common decency.
And that's the dumbest way to cook eggs I've ever seen.
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Let's cut to the chase--the pestilence we need to deal with is in the White House, currently occupied by the delusional idiot who caused untold pain, suffering and death during the pandemic with his bungling, imcompetence and delusions of intelligence. Despite being not very bright and not particularly well educated, soon-to-be president for life Trump thinks he knows more than scientists, medical doctors and other experts. He's a clear and present danger to democracy, the nation's economy, world peace and common decency.
And that's the dumbest way to cook eggs I've ever seen.
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grumpymcgrump5822
I'm old enough to remember Trump's antics from the 1980's, and yeah, he is a piece of work. However, the Federal Bureaucracy is probably overdue for a shakeup.
More importantly, your nemesis isn't Trump voters, or even Trump himself, but rather guys like Doc The Science Fauci who consider themselves somehow blessed with an insight we common folks lack, and therefore justified in distorting the truth. Doc Fauci was acting more like a politician than a scientist. Despite his pardon from our semi-sentient former Great Leader, I hope he is held accountable for his actions.
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I'm old enough to remember Trump's antics from the 1980's, and yeah, he is a piece of work. However, the Federal Bureaucracy is probably overdue for a shakeup.
More importantly, your nemesis isn't Trump voters, or even Trump himself, but rather guys like Doc The Science Fauci who consider themselves somehow blessed with an insight we common folks lack, and therefore justified in distorting the truth. Doc Fauci was acting more like a politician than a scientist. Despite his pardon from our semi-sentient former Great Leader, I hope he is held accountable for his actions.
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injunsun
AdamRagusea, you mentioned there is no other way than culling to be rid of bird flu. That's not quite true. They could give them an antiviral (which they won't, because that's expensive, or they could use the newly developed flu shots that are m-RNA-based. Those are coming to us soon, and will be MUCH better, producing long-lasting effects, so they won't need to be annual. But again, for chickens, they won't immunise them, as it's cheaper to kill them and replace them.
Btw, you live here in Knoxville. Eggs at Kroger were on sale for $3. 99 for 18, or $2. 66 a dozen last week.
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AdamRagusea, you mentioned there is no other way than culling to be rid of bird flu. That's not quite true. They could give them an antiviral (which they won't, because that's expensive, or they could use the newly developed flu shots that are m-RNA-based. Those are coming to us soon, and will be MUCH better, producing long-lasting effects, so they won't need to be annual. But again, for chickens, they won't immunise them, as it's cheaper to kill them and replace them.
Btw, you live here in Knoxville. Eggs at Kroger were on sale for $3. 99 for 18, or $2. 66 a dozen last week.
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dannielleeads3454
Trump voter here, and I also am very concerned about science. I don't think dropping government funding right now is a bad thing. We are in sooo much debt, and the waste seems to be infecting every aspect of the federal government. I genuinely hope DOGE finds that every single scientific grant has been squeaky clean, but I doubt that would be the case. Either way, once the dust settles, it's looking like there might be a LOT more money to go around, so these things are probably going to get a lot more funding.
Short term pain, long term gain.
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Trump voter here, and I also am very concerned about science. I don't think dropping government funding right now is a bad thing. We are in sooo much debt, and the waste seems to be infecting every aspect of the federal government. I genuinely hope DOGE finds that every single scientific grant has been squeaky clean, but I doubt that would be the case. Either way, once the dust settles, it's looking like there might be a LOT more money to go around, so these things are probably going to get a lot more funding.
Short term pain, long term gain.
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benedekbarta9355
There are I think 10-15 someting scientists who won the Nobel prize and are from my country. Almost all of them except for 2 made their discoveries abroad in other countries. It is mainly because the politicians rather focus on the fast return industries and factories than invest in the long term. Generally the most developed countries invest very heavily in science and research. So wherever you live try to do something to invest in the future by funding research or talking about it, raise awereness!
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There are I think 10-15 someting scientists who won the Nobel prize and are from my country. Almost all of them except for 2 made their discoveries abroad in other countries. It is mainly because the politicians rather focus on the fast return industries and factories than invest in the long term. Generally the most developed countries invest very heavily in science and research. So wherever you live try to do something to invest in the future by funding research or talking about it, raise awereness!
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Micharlus
Have you switched out the cool water at all Sure it's a sizeable bowl and has higher thermal mass but it itself won't help much to cool it when you've already raised it. And during half an hour you're transferred a lot of heat. Doesn't help that you're using a glass bowl and not a metal one and on top of that you keep it right next to a hot stove. I understand that saving water is a noble mindset but remember the eggs are a premium ingredient so they deserve a little more resources. :D
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Have you switched out the cool water at all Sure it's a sizeable bowl and has higher thermal mass but it itself won't help much to cool it when you've already raised it. And during half an hour you're transferred a lot of heat. Doesn't help that you're using a glass bowl and not a metal one and on top of that you keep it right next to a hot stove. I understand that saving water is a noble mindset but remember the eggs are a premium ingredient so they deserve a little more resources. :D
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hawkatsea
Thank you for addressing the anti-science dangers of the current adm in this v. cool demonstration. It's easy to misinterpret breaking news & clickbait stories from media outlets as truth or science, and that's why science literacy is so critical at this moment. Progress via the scientific method is inefficient by nature but makes sure we don't go backwards. So, calling science a waste of funding is shortsighted and risks driving our country down the fast-lane toward a new Dark Age.
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Thank you for addressing the anti-science dangers of the current adm in this v. cool demonstration. It's easy to misinterpret breaking news & clickbait stories from media outlets as truth or science, and that's why science literacy is so critical at this moment. Progress via the scientific method is inefficient by nature but makes sure we don't go backwards. So, calling science a waste of funding is shortsighted and risks driving our country down the fast-lane toward a new Dark Age.
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Florkl
7: 22 That sounds like a process that could very easily have cold spots inside (to say nothing of the litter on the outer edges that will have a way harder time hitting pasteurizing temps, and you’d never know unless you had thermometers scattered throughout the pile that confirmed pasteurization temps occurred for long enough. I’m not saying you can’t do it right, but I am saying it’d be my prime suspect if anything went wrong. Like an outbreak of bird flu in cattle.
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7: 22 That sounds like a process that could very easily have cold spots inside (to say nothing of the litter on the outer edges that will have a way harder time hitting pasteurizing temps, and you’d never know unless you had thermometers scattered throughout the pile that confirmed pasteurization temps occurred for long enough. I’m not saying you can’t do it right, but I am saying it’d be my prime suspect if anything went wrong. Like an outbreak of bird flu in cattle.
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aragusea
Go science! Go exploratory science that helps us understand the world we live in and creates a better future.
Big business can’t step in and do science for the sole purpose is to understand. They need a million dollar product today in order to stay in business. You and I can’t fund such science because we don’t have millions of dollars. That is where government plays a role. Government grants are the only way we have right now ensure that science happens.
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Go science! Go exploratory science that helps us understand the world we live in and creates a better future.
Big business can’t step in and do science for the sole purpose is to understand. They need a million dollar product today in order to stay in business. You and I can’t fund such science because we don’t have millions of dollars. That is where government plays a role. Government grants are the only way we have right now ensure that science happens.
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alanmccarthy4004
The easiest way to do this, is to put 6 eggs in your pot and fill with water. Turn burner on full. After 5 mins take out an egg and cut it open. Underdone. After one more minute take one out and cut open. Underdone. Keep going and when your sacrificial test egg is just shy of perfect, put the eggs in ice water.
Now always use that pot, eyeball a similar amount of water, always use that burner on full and you know how many minutes it takes.
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The easiest way to do this, is to put 6 eggs in your pot and fill with water. Turn burner on full. After 5 mins take out an egg and cut it open. Underdone. After one more minute take one out and cut open. Underdone. Keep going and when your sacrificial test egg is just shy of perfect, put the eggs in ice water.
Now always use that pot, eyeball a similar amount of water, always use that burner on full and you know how many minutes it takes.
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cardinalflyer
If some form of special equipment or lab is required for a project, why not make that cost a line item What is the benefit of hiding major costs in an overhead slush fund, other than abuse I think the right goal is transparency, rather than giving everyone an extra 60% because some people need it. Nothing about that change says the work can't be done or funded. only done in a more transparent way. Embrace the change and make it work for you!
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If some form of special equipment or lab is required for a project, why not make that cost a line item What is the benefit of hiding major costs in an overhead slush fund, other than abuse I think the right goal is transparency, rather than giving everyone an extra 60% because some people need it. Nothing about that change says the work can't be done or funded. only done in a more transparent way. Embrace the change and make it work for you!
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giffica
One pushback Adam, why the assumption government run grant programs is the ideal way to spread out capital You said the advancements we have were funded through this but that's not true, in fact, it's mostly Peter Thiel funding what you have today, and guys like him. Why so much big government bias when you know science has FULLY STAGNATED (ask Leonard Susskind, he has recently come out and admited full, total stagnation in academia)
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One pushback Adam, why the assumption government run grant programs is the ideal way to spread out capital You said the advancements we have were funded through this but that's not true, in fact, it's mostly Peter Thiel funding what you have today, and guys like him. Why so much big government bias when you know science has FULLY STAGNATED (ask Leonard Susskind, he has recently come out and admited full, total stagnation in academia)
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chadoftoons
I just don't know who in your viewerbase would be among that voterbase with how you previously kept alienating a young male demographic which i thought has a large overlap anyway with the current US administration. It is very often you try to explain reasonable why fears can be unfounded but you occasionally default to anger. I remember that video with the cutting boards and you mentioning plastic shavings for example.
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I just don't know who in your viewerbase would be among that voterbase with how you previously kept alienating a young male demographic which i thought has a large overlap anyway with the current US administration. It is very often you try to explain reasonable why fears can be unfounded but you occasionally default to anger. I remember that video with the cutting boards and you mentioning plastic shavings for example.
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