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Arthas Final Damnation & Uther's Sadness - All Cutscenes [9. 2 WoW: Eternity's End Catchup]
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Date: 2023-11-25
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Anna
It always bothered me that Uther left Arthus to face Stratholmes alone. I felt Arthus acted as a leader making a tough choice and doing what he believed was right. For all he understood, the plague was spreading and he was trying to contain it. Purging Stratholmes was not entirely a bad idea. Uther may not have agreed. But, he should not have left Arthus to face this horror alone. As far as Arthus sees it, he was abandoned by the Light, Jaina and Uther. I got emotional watching Uther drop Arthus like that. Such a horrible fate. I know Arthus did terrible things. But, when I think of the moment that helmet falls off, he looks into his father's eyes and asked if it was over. That tells me Arthus was just another Death Knight, who had their lives stolen from them. He was wronged. It burns to see Light and Love abandon him, when he needed them the most. I feel the same for Sylvanas. She angers me. But, at the same time, I mourn for her. All she asked for was a clean death and she was denied that.
Arthus, Sylvanas, The Forsaken, Uther, Saurfang, Death Knights are all victims connected by this horrific tragedy. They were the heroes. They were the best of the best. The Forsaken were just innocence. That's why they were tragically taken. To be used as tools. They were all good people who had their lives stolen from them or lost someone they loved. -What joy is there in this torment? -. I don't think we can comprehend the level of hell, they have been going through. They can't even rest in peace. They were denied this. It sort of makes sense why Sylvanas is constantly seeking death.
We see the monster's Arthus and Sylvanas have become. But, we forget the heroes they were. They died for their people. Yes, Arthus the Paladin hero, died that day in Stratholmes. He may have technically lived. But, he went in there Arthus the hero and came out Arthus the Lich King. We have done quest before to help honor our fallen heroes and help them rest in peace. I see two paths. Give into vengeance towards these people and let the cycle continue or help them rest in peace. Arthus and Sylvanas are obviously going to be difficult. Sylvanas maybe the most difficult, but I still believe she has a chance. You have to love them more then you hate them. I think us Champions should not give on them. We may be their only hope of finally resting in peace.
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It always bothered me that Uther left Arthus to face Stratholmes alone. I felt Arthus acted as a leader making a tough choice and doing what he believed was right. For all he understood, the plague was spreading and he was trying to contain it. Purging Stratholmes was not entirely a bad idea. Uther may not have agreed. But, he should not have left Arthus to face this horror alone. As far as Arthus sees it, he was abandoned by the Light, Jaina and Uther. I got emotional watching Uther drop Arthus like that. Such a horrible fate. I know Arthus did terrible things. But, when I think of the moment that helmet falls off, he looks into his father's eyes and asked if it was over. That tells me Arthus was just another Death Knight, who had their lives stolen from them. He was wronged. It burns to see Light and Love abandon him, when he needed them the most. I feel the same for Sylvanas. She angers me. But, at the same time, I mourn for her. All she asked for was a clean death and she was denied that.
Arthus, Sylvanas, The Forsaken, Uther, Saurfang, Death Knights are all victims connected by this horrific tragedy. They were the heroes. They were the best of the best. The Forsaken were just innocence. That's why they were tragically taken. To be used as tools. They were all good people who had their lives stolen from them or lost someone they loved. -What joy is there in this torment? -. I don't think we can comprehend the level of hell, they have been going through. They can't even rest in peace. They were denied this. It sort of makes sense why Sylvanas is constantly seeking death.
We see the monster's Arthus and Sylvanas have become. But, we forget the heroes they were. They died for their people. Yes, Arthus the Paladin hero, died that day in Stratholmes. He may have technically lived. But, he went in there Arthus the hero and came out Arthus the Lich King. We have done quest before to help honor our fallen heroes and help them rest in peace. I see two paths. Give into vengeance towards these people and let the cycle continue or help them rest in peace. Arthus and Sylvanas are obviously going to be difficult. Sylvanas maybe the most difficult, but I still believe she has a chance. You have to love them more then you hate them. I think us Champions should not give on them. We may be their only hope of finally resting in peace.
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silversleek
The systems of the shadowlands are broken, but not in the way that the forsworn believed. Any who would rebel so strongly against having their memories wipe to serve as impartial carers of the dead, were never meant to be Kyrian. It is not a failure of the Path, but a failure of the arbiters judgement. Uther may have lived a life of servitude to the people, but In Death, he'd be more fitting amongst the Fae, using his connections to the powers of the light to grant renewal and hope for the future, or perhaps the Necrolords, fighting to maintain order and protect those around him. The two he was not suited for, were the Kyrian, as his mortal life reflected a harsh grudge on mortals, and the Venthyr, for similar reasons. The arbiter, as an all powerful judge, should know that Uther could not behave impartially if someone like Arthas appeared before him.
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The systems of the shadowlands are broken, but not in the way that the forsworn believed. Any who would rebel so strongly against having their memories wipe to serve as impartial carers of the dead, were never meant to be Kyrian. It is not a failure of the Path, but a failure of the arbiters judgement. Uther may have lived a life of servitude to the people, but In Death, he'd be more fitting amongst the Fae, using his connections to the powers of the light to grant renewal and hope for the future, or perhaps the Necrolords, fighting to maintain order and protect those around him. The two he was not suited for, were the Kyrian, as his mortal life reflected a harsh grudge on mortals, and the Venthyr, for similar reasons. The arbiter, as an all powerful judge, should know that Uther could not behave impartially if someone like Arthas appeared before him.
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Angelus
Condemning Arthas to The Maw without trial, even with the many atrocities done as the Lich King, is as bad if not worse than all he did. And I'm saying this BEFORE the additions to the lore about how Frostmourne and the Helm of Domination were tools of control used by the Jailer over their users. For all the good Uther did in life as a Paladin, he wiped it away and worse by acting as judge, jury, and executioner to Arthas soul like that, and throwing him without trial or sentence into literal Warcraft Hell. Even for all Arthas did, either as the new lore says as slave of the Jailer, or the old lore says as a slave to Frostmourne and the Lich King (Nerzul, he didn't deserve this.
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Condemning Arthas to The Maw without trial, even with the many atrocities done as the Lich King, is as bad if not worse than all he did. And I'm saying this BEFORE the additions to the lore about how Frostmourne and the Helm of Domination were tools of control used by the Jailer over their users. For all the good Uther did in life as a Paladin, he wiped it away and worse by acting as judge, jury, and executioner to Arthas soul like that, and throwing him without trial or sentence into literal Warcraft Hell. Even for all Arthas did, either as the new lore says as slave of the Jailer, or the old lore says as a slave to Frostmourne and the Lich King (Nerzul, he didn't deserve this.
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Mandalorian
Every single act of Arthas was correct in full and unquestioned pursuit to save his people, Frostmourne took his humanity and soul moment he grabbed it, Helm of Domination took much of himself to finish the job aka why Lich King was such a poor commander of armies compared to Prince Arthas that was kicking asses of everyone from Lordaeron to Northrend. How Uther cannot comprehend that Arthas never actually fell willingly to the dark side is fascinating. Anduin gets owned in a blink of an eye to commit a murder, Arthas had to be driven bonkers by solitude in middle of nowhere Northrend for months before he became a DK.
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Every single act of Arthas was correct in full and unquestioned pursuit to save his people, Frostmourne took his humanity and soul moment he grabbed it, Helm of Domination took much of himself to finish the job aka why Lich King was such a poor commander of armies compared to Prince Arthas that was kicking asses of everyone from Lordaeron to Northrend. How Uther cannot comprehend that Arthas never actually fell willingly to the dark side is fascinating. Anduin gets owned in a blink of an eye to commit a murder, Arthas had to be driven bonkers by solitude in middle of nowhere Northrend for months before he became a DK.
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-far
-It would not have been right to leave you to suffer- of course it would have been right! he is a traitor, he reject the principles of the order he serve in his life, betrayed the people who welcomed him in his afterlife, killed peoples, indirectly provoked the death of thoussand others peoples, he provoked the drought even if indirectly and not alone, he condemned countless of innocents souls from countless worlds to eternal sufferings. i think what he did was even worse that what Arthas ever did. At least Arthas was corrupted by Frostmourne, Uther has no excuses. Leave it to the Maw, that's where it belongs.
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-It would not have been right to leave you to suffer- of course it would have been right! he is a traitor, he reject the principles of the order he serve in his life, betrayed the people who welcomed him in his afterlife, killed peoples, indirectly provoked the death of thoussand others peoples, he provoked the drought even if indirectly and not alone, he condemned countless of innocents souls from countless worlds to eternal sufferings. i think what he did was even worse that what Arthas ever did. At least Arthas was corrupted by Frostmourne, Uther has no excuses. Leave it to the Maw, that's where it belongs.
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The
Arthas was no more a puppet than sylvanas was and yet after all the atrocities she did, and had absolute control over, she kinda has a redemption arc going for her now. But for some reason, most people think Arthas was born evil and relished in what he became which everyone else knows is not remotely true. Uther even admits that throwing Arthas into a maw was not a choice for him to make, so he definitely regrets what he did(Arthas was mostly possessed by the Frostmourne blade. Trapped in his mind, and forced to watch as his body did unspeakable atrocities to his people)
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Arthas was no more a puppet than sylvanas was and yet after all the atrocities she did, and had absolute control over, she kinda has a redemption arc going for her now. But for some reason, most people think Arthas was born evil and relished in what he became which everyone else knows is not remotely true. Uther even admits that throwing Arthas into a maw was not a choice for him to make, so he definitely regrets what he did(Arthas was mostly possessed by the Frostmourne blade. Trapped in his mind, and forced to watch as his body did unspeakable atrocities to his people)
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Grey
29: 13 Everybody hold the phone here. Kyrians can deliver incoming souls to specific parts of the Shadowlands. And their watchers can decide when a soul is ready to move on to the afterlife in the first place. So -WHY- is there this mass panic about souls -accidentally- going into the Maw? Just deliver everybody to Oribos, set up a bureaucracy and assign people manually!
Picture the scene: A mighty warrior dies in glorious battle. He wakes up in the afterlife to the sight of a huge queue. Somebody hands him a stack of forms to fill out.
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29: 13 Everybody hold the phone here. Kyrians can deliver incoming souls to specific parts of the Shadowlands. And their watchers can decide when a soul is ready to move on to the afterlife in the first place. So -WHY- is there this mass panic about souls -accidentally- going into the Maw? Just deliver everybody to Oribos, set up a bureaucracy and assign people manually!
Picture the scene: A mighty warrior dies in glorious battle. He wakes up in the afterlife to the sight of a huge queue. Somebody hands him a stack of forms to fill out.
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AaronMetallion
Thank you for this, I felt really aggravated playing 9. 1 and wondering how and when Uther got back with the Kyrian. Last I remembered he was fighting along side Lysonia. I didn't know such critical story was in the Kyrian Campaign. Looks like blizz expects me to be committed to 4 alts, in all 4 campaigns or I'll have major plot holes in 9. 1. A bit of a design flaw and a retention tactic imo. I'm glad I'm caught up now, a lot of things make more sense. Thank you.
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Thank you for this, I felt really aggravated playing 9. 1 and wondering how and when Uther got back with the Kyrian. Last I remembered he was fighting along side Lysonia. I didn't know such critical story was in the Kyrian Campaign. Looks like blizz expects me to be committed to 4 alts, in all 4 campaigns or I'll have major plot holes in 9. 1. A bit of a design flaw and a retention tactic imo. I'm glad I'm caught up now, a lot of things make more sense. Thank you.
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Olyeball
There was so much potential in the moral gray area between Devos and the Archon, but then blizzard had to do the -NO, THESE are the good guys and THESE are the bad guys! Look, one is GOOD color and one is BAD color! - its so frustrating that they randomly had the Forsworn turn to the Maw and make them the super bad guys, which was even more drawn out when Lysonia became the leader and was just the most blandly written villain that has ever been created
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There was so much potential in the moral gray area between Devos and the Archon, but then blizzard had to do the -NO, THESE are the good guys and THESE are the bad guys! Look, one is GOOD color and one is BAD color! - its so frustrating that they randomly had the Forsworn turn to the Maw and make them the super bad guys, which was even more drawn out when Lysonia became the leader and was just the most blandly written villain that has ever been created
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Servant
The scene where Devos descents to take artha's soul is troubling. I mean where they there the whole time? Or did they arrive when Arthas was defeated? Was it truly the light that helped Tirion break free and defeat him? Or was that her doing all along? Do many questions. I know that in game we see tirion getting a blessing from the light, but the thing about beings disguising their power to look like something else is not un common in WoW.
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The scene where Devos descents to take artha's soul is troubling. I mean where they there the whole time? Or did they arrive when Arthas was defeated? Was it truly the light that helped Tirion break free and defeat him? Or was that her doing all along? Do many questions. I know that in game we see tirion getting a blessing from the light, but the thing about beings disguising their power to look like something else is not un common in WoW.
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Salty
I bought Shadowlands thinking I could choose to help Uther kill some Azeroth villains or something, and then found out playing hes the -bad guy-. Really upset at what Blizzard did to him portraying him as a villain. I thought it was really cool when he dropped Arthas and said JUSTICE and then theres is the fact that Uther was at Icecrown the day Arthas died and his ghost had important dialogue that if I recall didn't have any villain vibes.
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I bought Shadowlands thinking I could choose to help Uther kill some Azeroth villains or something, and then found out playing hes the -bad guy-. Really upset at what Blizzard did to him portraying him as a villain. I thought it was really cool when he dropped Arthas and said JUSTICE and then theres is the fact that Uther was at Icecrown the day Arthas died and his ghost had important dialogue that if I recall didn't have any villain vibes.
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Mr
The problem I have with the story of bastion, is that everything in regards to the mawsworn, devos and Uther's path, has been constructed in a way that ends up justifying what bastion does, how it erases someone's memories and identity, all to serve as an eternal soldier without question.
There is nothing good about erasing a person's memories in order to serve another
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The problem I have with the story of bastion, is that everything in regards to the mawsworn, devos and Uther's path, has been constructed in a way that ends up justifying what bastion does, how it erases someone's memories and identity, all to serve as an eternal soldier without question.
There is nothing good about erasing a person's memories in order to serve another
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Malal
Lysonia was legit right, it pisses me off more and more wow keeps making these VERY enigmatic foes for us to fight but never allowed to join, it feels like we're on a mono rail watching the game's story unfold and we're not allowed to interreact with it, so many villains who loykey made sense and I agreed with and wanted to side with.
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Lysonia was legit right, it pisses me off more and more wow keeps making these VERY enigmatic foes for us to fight but never allowed to join, it feels like we're on a mono rail watching the game's story unfold and we're not allowed to interreact with it, so many villains who loykey made sense and I agreed with and wanted to side with.
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Tim
it was never quite clear for me. when you're being brought around or -judged- you couldn't react or are you just a vegetable while in the process?
cuz if arthas was cognizant and could move during the time uther yeets him, did he accept it? like how kerrigan blames herself
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it was never quite clear for me. when you're being brought around or -judged- you couldn't react or are you just a vegetable while in the process?
cuz if arthas was cognizant and could move during the time uther yeets him, did he accept it? like how kerrigan blames herself
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Illutian
Kyrestia: -[. ]And yet, the deeds of mortals are what won the day. -
Me [to every other player]: Should we point out how many times we die in raids; dungeons; questing; lack of spatial awareness. Yet come back from death?
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Kyrestia: -[. ]And yet, the deeds of mortals are what won the day. -
Me [to every other player]: Should we point out how many times we die in raids; dungeons; questing; lack of spatial awareness. Yet come back from death?
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Terrberr
Seeing these battleanimations and the animations in the -cutscenes-. makes me so sad. they're still stuck on ps2 level; W; come on blizzard come the lore the amount of love it deserves in terms of animating it, gosh darn
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Seeing these battleanimations and the animations in the -cutscenes-. makes me so sad. they're still stuck on ps2 level; W; come on blizzard come the lore the amount of love it deserves in terms of animating it, gosh darn
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pacmanpakkas
Blizzard are so lazy these days.
Make a hero a villain. over and over.
Uther would have been smarter than this if it was written 10 years ago, he wouldn-t become a new villain. He-d have more faith than that
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Blizzard are so lazy these days.
Make a hero a villain. over and over.
Uther would have been smarter than this if it was written 10 years ago, he wouldn-t become a new villain. He-d have more faith than that
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King
-Devos may have treasured you, but I have no need of you. -: c I really did like Devos, I wish there had been another path where she could've lived to see the reforms she brought about to the Kyrian
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-Devos may have treasured you, but I have no need of you. -: c I really did like Devos, I wish there had been another path where she could've lived to see the reforms she brought about to the Kyrian
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Matthew
In death, the Archon changed the path of the Kyrian and thus Devo's succeeded in her endeavor in the end. It's a shame it took to the death of her closest to open her eyes to her own misjudgment
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In death, the Archon changed the path of the Kyrian and thus Devo's succeeded in her endeavor in the end. It's a shame it took to the death of her closest to open her eyes to her own misjudgment
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Bastalam
Honestly what is the point of these eternal ones. So far none has shown any reason to be worth anything. They can't even stand against their own underling. Please blizz fix the power gaps.
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Honestly what is the point of these eternal ones. So far none has shown any reason to be worth anything. They can't even stand against their own underling. Please blizz fix the power gaps.
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SirMcAwesome
23: 00 LMAO, that animation on the archon. How pathetic. This game and it's once glorious story has gone to utter shit. So glad I stopped playing after WotLK, that was when it peaked.
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23: 00 LMAO, that animation on the archon. How pathetic. This game and it's once glorious story has gone to utter shit. So glad I stopped playing after WotLK, that was when it peaked.
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Sean
Uther yes he was and is good and pure he deserves saving HOWEVER Arthas is beyond saving he should stay there let him rot why should care he should be punished for all time!
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Uther yes he was and is good and pure he deserves saving HOWEVER Arthas is beyond saving he should stay there let him rot why should care he should be punished for all time!
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bobothehippo
This video is all out of order. Uther is given wings then has no wings and is given wings? Uther regrets casting Arthas into the maw, then casts Arthas into the Maw?
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This video is all out of order. Uther is given wings then has no wings and is given wings? Uther regrets casting Arthas into the maw, then casts Arthas into the Maw?
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The
For some reason when I watched this I strange liquid came out of my eye when I saw Arthas and then saw Uther feel something for Arthas before throwing him into the maw.
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For some reason when I watched this I strange liquid came out of my eye when I saw Arthas and then saw Uther feel something for Arthas before throwing him into the maw.
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DreamingFlurry
This again. Arthas was right to purge Strat and you, Uther the Failure (and you, too Jaina, did abandon your future king (which could be considered treason)
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This again. Arthas was right to purge Strat and you, Uther the Failure (and you, too Jaina, did abandon your future king (which could be considered treason)
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Storlans
shadowlands killed all my interest in one of the best warcraft characters of all time: / their story is so bad.
Modern wow really brakes all the good lore.
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shadowlands killed all my interest in one of the best warcraft characters of all time: / their story is so bad.
Modern wow really brakes all the good lore.
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soul
17: 30: -well I guess I have my wing to save me if something goes wrong, i trust you-
Me: -ye literally there like hundreds of maniacs assaulting the maw 24/7-
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17: 30: -well I guess I have my wing to save me if something goes wrong, i trust you-
Me: -ye literally there like hundreds of maniacs assaulting the maw 24/7-
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CrazyBunni
I really hope we get to rescue Arthas's soul, get to see Garrosh in Revendreth and work our way to saving Tyrande! I want so many thing in this expansion!
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I really hope we get to rescue Arthas's soul, get to see Garrosh in Revendreth and work our way to saving Tyrande! I want so many thing in this expansion!
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Alessandro
Can someone explain to me why Devos allied herself with the Jailer, if she got mad at the Archon for not listening to her about the menace of the Maw?
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Can someone explain to me why Devos allied herself with the Jailer, if she got mad at the Archon for not listening to her about the menace of the Maw?
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Miguel
we saw Uthers soul spilt into two in the cinematic, and talk talked to one in icecrown, and meet the other in shadowlands, what happen to the former?
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we saw Uthers soul spilt into two in the cinematic, and talk talked to one in icecrown, and meet the other in shadowlands, what happen to the former?
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