The Wild West Was As Wild As You Think - And 'Justice' Was Often Even Worse
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Date: 2022-12-29
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Dox
I'm related to Henry Doc Holliday, and my great, great grandfather helped Frank James, the brother of Jesse James evade capture as a youngster when he came across James, conversed with him for a bit, and later pointed a pursuing Marshal in the wrong direction. (If I'm remembering correctly it was a Marshal, or Marshals, but it's been a while since I heard the story)
I don't know what my great great grandfather knew about James at the time, or what they talked about, but he was impressed by him enough to help him out, which is interesting considering how many of my ancestors in Missouri and Kansas were lawmen or military men, or both. For example his grandson, my grandfather, was a Sheriff in Missouri and served in the Army during WW2.
I've been kicking myself for not learning more about my family's history during the wild west, or learning more about the era in general, so I'm starting to do just that now.
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I'm related to Henry Doc Holliday, and my great, great grandfather helped Frank James, the brother of Jesse James evade capture as a youngster when he came across James, conversed with him for a bit, and later pointed a pursuing Marshal in the wrong direction. (If I'm remembering correctly it was a Marshal, or Marshals, but it's been a while since I heard the story)
I don't know what my great great grandfather knew about James at the time, or what they talked about, but he was impressed by him enough to help him out, which is interesting considering how many of my ancestors in Missouri and Kansas were lawmen or military men, or both. For example his grandson, my grandfather, was a Sheriff in Missouri and served in the Army during WW2.
I've been kicking myself for not learning more about my family's history during the wild west, or learning more about the era in general, so I'm starting to do just that now.
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Kev
Your comments regarding the Pinkerton Agency and Abe Lincoln are incorrect. On the night Lincoln was killed he was being protected by a single army officer who was supposed to be posted nearby but wandered off during the play. And while Alan Pinkerton did provide protection for Lincoln on occasion and actually founded what would become the Secret Service, neither he nor his employees were involved in the events at Ford's Theatre that night.
Of course that's not to say they weren't involved in all kinds of other nefarious activities.
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Your comments regarding the Pinkerton Agency and Abe Lincoln are incorrect. On the night Lincoln was killed he was being protected by a single army officer who was supposed to be posted nearby but wandered off during the play. And while Alan Pinkerton did provide protection for Lincoln on occasion and actually founded what would become the Secret Service, neither he nor his employees were involved in the events at Ford's Theatre that night.
Of course that's not to say they weren't involved in all kinds of other nefarious activities.
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btetschner
It would be hard to survive during that time because people were on self-preservation mode all the time.
The level of education was so low in some of those areas that people probably hardly knew what they were doing most of the time.
Their justice system was similar to the first justice system in the world.
Very interesting history (which is helpful for understanding the past, thank you for the video.
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It would be hard to survive during that time because people were on self-preservation mode all the time.
The level of education was so low in some of those areas that people probably hardly knew what they were doing most of the time.
Their justice system was similar to the first justice system in the world.
Very interesting history (which is helpful for understanding the past, thank you for the video.
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Seti
I had an ancestor that was Sheriff in Williamson Co, Tx and somewhere in central Tenn. He died in 1883. I imagine he was a gun slinging bad ass. He was also in the War with Mexico as a captain. He defended the US when Mexico tried to take Texas. I'm thinking he was like Gene Hackman in Unforgiven. But you can't take Americans guns. That's against the constitution. Surely they didn't forget about that by then.
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I had an ancestor that was Sheriff in Williamson Co, Tx and somewhere in central Tenn. He died in 1883. I imagine he was a gun slinging bad ass. He was also in the War with Mexico as a captain. He defended the US when Mexico tried to take Texas. I'm thinking he was like Gene Hackman in Unforgiven. But you can't take Americans guns. That's against the constitution. Surely they didn't forget about that by then.
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Thomas
I would not make it in the wild west. Whenever I see any kind of violence I turn and walk the other way. I could not shoot another person even if my life depended on it. I cannot even stand to see the killing of mere animals. I am a life long vegetarian and I poundly actively avoid violent situations and violent people as much as possible.
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I would not make it in the wild west. Whenever I see any kind of violence I turn and walk the other way. I could not shoot another person even if my life depended on it. I cannot even stand to see the killing of mere animals. I am a life long vegetarian and I poundly actively avoid violent situations and violent people as much as possible.
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Daniel
1: 15, regarding 1 in 61 chance of death for someone living in Dodge City from 1876 to 1885: do you mean a 1 in 61 chance each year, or a 1 in 16 chance over that 10 year period? You compare that to 1 in 200 in 2015 in the USA, which I don't believe is right: FBI stats say about 5/100, 000, or 1 in 20, 000.
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1: 15, regarding 1 in 61 chance of death for someone living in Dodge City from 1876 to 1885: do you mean a 1 in 61 chance each year, or a 1 in 16 chance over that 10 year period? You compare that to 1 in 200 in 2015 in the USA, which I don't believe is right: FBI stats say about 5/100, 000, or 1 in 20, 000.
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Lorenzo
Well, interesting and I see how the wild west still lingers on in the USA. However, INCOMPLETE HISTORY OF THE WILD WEST. The west was won by exterminating the entire Indian indigenous nations, something the USA aught to come to the truth about this.
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Well, interesting and I see how the wild west still lingers on in the USA. However, INCOMPLETE HISTORY OF THE WILD WEST. The west was won by exterminating the entire Indian indigenous nations, something the USA aught to come to the truth about this.
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Amanda
Wild Bill Hickok was our town sherif in Abilene Kansas, But you forgot the best Sherrif of them all, Tom Bear River Smith! Him and Bill met the same kind of fate. But Tom used his hands, not guns to set this town straight. Good man.
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Wild Bill Hickok was our town sherif in Abilene Kansas, But you forgot the best Sherrif of them all, Tom Bear River Smith! Him and Bill met the same kind of fate. But Tom used his hands, not guns to set this town straight. Good man.
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education
Picture in a store in Crested Butte about 1970. Title says rustler's strung up or something. An old man made a point to come over and tell me that the rustler's ' owned the land and the guy who hung them owned the newspaper
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Picture in a store in Crested Butte about 1970. Title says rustler's strung up or something. An old man made a point to come over and tell me that the rustler's ' owned the land and the guy who hung them owned the newspaper
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Rusty
some facts in here were a bit off, maybe a script issue. but yeah I woulda been fine in the West as long as typhoid, cholera, etc. didn't get me. although I woulda prob been a trapper and likely woulda been mauled to death, so
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some facts in here were a bit off, maybe a script issue. but yeah I woulda been fine in the West as long as typhoid, cholera, etc. didn't get me. although I woulda prob been a trapper and likely woulda been mauled to death, so
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Adam
We may be living in the present, but thankfully, here in Texas, I can still go in my backyard and unload a 30 round magazine as fast as I can pull. Best of all, the only thing my neighbors will say is, hell yeah mutherfuger!
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We may be living in the present, but thankfully, here in Texas, I can still go in my backyard and unload a 30 round magazine as fast as I can pull. Best of all, the only thing my neighbors will say is, hell yeah mutherfuger!
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education
You start with the myth that tv & movies are history they are not. The history was always there but that is not entertainment. The study of history is hard work! History was always there waiting to be learned.
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You start with the myth that tv & movies are history they are not. The history was always there but that is not entertainment. The study of history is hard work! History was always there waiting to be learned.
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Doran
One thing not explored was the effect of PTSD and the carpetbaggers of the civil war. Glad someone is bringing it up. These mens seen things more horrific than we can imagine they had little of their soul left.
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One thing not explored was the effect of PTSD and the carpetbaggers of the civil war. Glad someone is bringing it up. These mens seen things more horrific than we can imagine they had little of their soul left.
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The
Wait wait wait, r u telling me that Gun Control hasn't worked since the 1870s? . I thought Liberals and Democrats were all about progressive movement and moving forward? Gun control sounds like 17 steps back.
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Wait wait wait, r u telling me that Gun Control hasn't worked since the 1870s? . I thought Liberals and Democrats were all about progressive movement and moving forward? Gun control sounds like 17 steps back.
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Lulu
We should go back to this way of justice seems like people actually paid for their damn crimes and swiftly none of this preparing a case for years and appeals we say you do it means you did it the end
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We should go back to this way of justice seems like people actually paid for their damn crimes and swiftly none of this preparing a case for years and appeals we say you do it means you did it the end
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MaRkY
If everyone carried a gun like those daysIm not so sure the crime rate would be any higher! People might think twice about things knowing their was a chance the playing field was even
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If everyone carried a gun like those daysIm not so sure the crime rate would be any higher! People might think twice about things knowing their was a chance the playing field was even
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Pandah
We need the same brutal punishment justice enacted back then for criminals now. Criminality is becoming all too common with laxer laws surrounding violent offenders.
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We need the same brutal punishment justice enacted back then for criminals now. Criminality is becoming all too common with laxer laws surrounding violent offenders.
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Austin
Love the term Outlaw. You were literally revoked from the laws protection. You could be subjected to all sorts of treatment, and rightfully so! Wild, wild west!
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Love the term Outlaw. You were literally revoked from the laws protection. You could be subjected to all sorts of treatment, and rightfully so! Wild, wild west!
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Snerd
The vigilance committee responsible for sacking the vigilance committee has been sacked by the vigilance committee. And now for something completely different.
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The vigilance committee responsible for sacking the vigilance committee has been sacked by the vigilance committee. And now for something completely different.
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Donald
I probably would NOT have survived. I would not want to live in a time where I could not count on the near future. I would have been shot in a heart-beat.
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I probably would NOT have survived. I would not want to live in a time where I could not count on the near future. I would have been shot in a heart-beat.
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