Eugenics and Francis Galton: Crash Course History of Science #23
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Date: 2022-04-04
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John
You forgot to mention the funding that was given to the American eugenics society from the Rockefeller foundation. Also there-s the precursor to IBM which was the establishment of cold springs harbor laboratories in New York and establishment of the American abortion league. Thomas J Watson Sr, who-s son ran IBM actually headed the laboratories in Poland during the nazi invasion and assisted them in their eugenics efforts this is why Prescott Bush invested billions into the Nazis and this was the argument in the nazis defense during the Nuremberg trials. A lot of what the Nazis did was a eugenics experiment that was being funded by the eugenicist out of Britain and America.
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You forgot to mention the funding that was given to the American eugenics society from the Rockefeller foundation. Also there-s the precursor to IBM which was the establishment of cold springs harbor laboratories in New York and establishment of the American abortion league. Thomas J Watson Sr, who-s son ran IBM actually headed the laboratories in Poland during the nazi invasion and assisted them in their eugenics efforts this is why Prescott Bush invested billions into the Nazis and this was the argument in the nazis defense during the Nuremberg trials. A lot of what the Nazis did was a eugenics experiment that was being funded by the eugenicist out of Britain and America.
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Lucas
I honestly don-t see an issue with the logic here. If you minus all the bad stuff, and only focusing on the idea of high test takers mating other high test takers, eventually you will get kids who are smarter then average. I-m not a scientist so I don-t actually know the reality of the situation but I know that-s how breeding works. Desirable traits are passed onto the next generation until you get a dog who points at a bird. This works in all animals; Humans are animals, so it will work with humans. But again I haven-t done any research, just on the surface I-m saying it makes sense. If there-s someone who knows more about the subject please weigh in here.
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I honestly don-t see an issue with the logic here. If you minus all the bad stuff, and only focusing on the idea of high test takers mating other high test takers, eventually you will get kids who are smarter then average. I-m not a scientist so I don-t actually know the reality of the situation but I know that-s how breeding works. Desirable traits are passed onto the next generation until you get a dog who points at a bird. This works in all animals; Humans are animals, so it will work with humans. But again I haven-t done any research, just on the surface I-m saying it makes sense. If there-s someone who knows more about the subject please weigh in here.
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damnedcarrot
I completely support a revised version of the eugenics program. People almost always pick the utilitarian option in those hypotheticals ( save 1 guy on the train tracks or 5) yet are opposed to killing a few today to stop countless suffering in the future. We have an amazing understand of genetics today and can implement a eugenics program properly. It only has positive outcomes. Ive been searching for a long term study on today-s effects of the Nazi eugenics program. Despite it not being implemented properly I-m still really interested in knowing it-s effects.
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I completely support a revised version of the eugenics program. People almost always pick the utilitarian option in those hypotheticals ( save 1 guy on the train tracks or 5) yet are opposed to killing a few today to stop countless suffering in the future. We have an amazing understand of genetics today and can implement a eugenics program properly. It only has positive outcomes. Ive been searching for a long term study on today-s effects of the Nazi eugenics program. Despite it not being implemented properly I-m still really interested in knowing it-s effects.
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Jo
To me, a mathematician, the bad science and feeblemindedness seems to be on your side. They were trying to categorize human attributes and made great strides, whereas your argument starts by calling it bad science without giving detailed examples, and using the words trouble and creepy sufficiently to convert other feeble minds. Putting your morality above evidence is not science.
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To me, a mathematician, the bad science and feeblemindedness seems to be on your side. They were trying to categorize human attributes and made great strides, whereas your argument starts by calling it bad science without giving detailed examples, and using the words trouble and creepy sufficiently to convert other feeble minds. Putting your morality above evidence is not science.
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Simon
Its common knowledge that we can breed better and worse types of animals. That-s why we have different dog breeds. It-s why we have domesticated cattle.
So if eugenics is a well established fact with animals. Why do suddenly none of those rules apply when we get to talking about that 2 legged animal called humans?
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Its common knowledge that we can breed better and worse types of animals. That-s why we have different dog breeds. It-s why we have domesticated cattle.
So if eugenics is a well established fact with animals. Why do suddenly none of those rules apply when we get to talking about that 2 legged animal called humans?
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raka
While i do believe some stat are passed down to the next generation, most of it just basic stat and just highest potential. I mean u will have ur limit eventually but most of the time poeple just dont hit that limit, and sadly good basic stat just stay basic if u re not learn enough or experiance enough
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While i do believe some stat are passed down to the next generation, most of it just basic stat and just highest potential. I mean u will have ur limit eventually but most of the time poeple just dont hit that limit, and sadly good basic stat just stay basic if u re not learn enough or experiance enough
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TisPete
Galton-s -Africa for the Chinese- letter to -The Times- was way ahead of its time.
Seems to be working well. The Chinese successfully extract the resources on that continent by buying off the top people. They don-t have to worry about social justice warriors complaining that this is unfair.
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Galton-s -Africa for the Chinese- letter to -The Times- was way ahead of its time.
Seems to be working well. The Chinese successfully extract the resources on that continent by buying off the top people. They don-t have to worry about social justice warriors complaining that this is unfair.
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Meet
Francis Galton didn't believe that black people were -equal in brain or in heart- to white people or -cares for his liberty as much as an Englishman, - according to a letter he wrote to the editor of The London Times, John Thadeus Delane, on December 26, 1857. He was a racist.
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Francis Galton didn't believe that black people were -equal in brain or in heart- to white people or -cares for his liberty as much as an Englishman, - according to a letter he wrote to the editor of The London Times, John Thadeus Delane, on December 26, 1857. He was a racist.
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NerdMaryArt
So many racist assholes in this comments, believing that your -race- makes you superior to POC people and ignoring the systematic oppression just because eugenics it's not only dumb, but wrong
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So many racist assholes in this comments, believing that your -race- makes you superior to POC people and ignoring the systematic oppression just because eugenics it's not only dumb, but wrong
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Joy
I have seen pictures of first psychological experimental laboratory setup in late 1800s in Leipzig, Germany. Instruments in Galton's anthropometric lab bear striking similarity.
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I have seen pictures of first psychological experimental laboratory setup in late 1800s in Leipzig, Germany. Instruments in Galton's anthropometric lab bear striking similarity.
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